Just cancel Aston Villa’s match

[olderandnonthewiser]

A massive waste of public money policing a game where violence is so expected that schools have had to close early.

It’s just a game. Just football. Shouldn’t be a drain on public services.

The away fans, who don’t have tickets and probably are in Tel Aviv, aren’t the security issue.

It’s local residents who are creating trouble. Not even Villa fans.

There are Tel Aviv fans there, I’ve just seen them being interviewed on The Telegraph. They came over specifically to protest, so carry on with your assumptions

@Keytokenthe ‘riots’ were largely the other team as it was a derby and there was a concern with flares.
It’s funny I never see such emboldened views when you talk about Greek, Polish or Italian teams.
I would ask people to use their brain cells when they read the information. They sent planes due to a real concern about specific attacks online- people were questioned about their ethnicity post match, thrown in the canals etc.
I don’t deny there is a bad element but like England they could have stopped people identified from flying and attending.
This is far more than that.
The posts today have been horrific about the targeting of ‘Zionist’s’ in that area. Why? If the away fans are banned.
I mean, come on!

@blankcanvas3there are MTA fans that are British. Including members of my family. Some are also Barcelona fans and one a Mutchengladbach.

There is no dispersal order in place I guess? So fans can attend?

They’re not. The Maccabi Tel Aviv club themselves decided that their fans shouldn’t got to the match due to the violence they continually display. They refused to sell them tickets.

Yes, but I have specifically just seen one who has flown over from Tel Aviv being interviewed. He got here yesterday. There have been a couple of dispersal orders so far, fans are getting in okay (my friend is there). There has been ‘minor altercations’ but nothing else. All seems relatively peaceful

No assumptions here. Yesterday local residents were putting up banners declaring Jews weren’t welcome.

Birmingham has become a disgusting display of sectarianism with people voting based on whether airports in Pakistan are being built.

Have you not looked at the previous links about their fans? They are nothing but trouble and there is nothing to stop them turning up tonight without tickets and kicking off.

I’m not seeing any reports on these Jews Aren’t welcome signs. Only reports on the Zionists Aren’t Welcome signs. Are you purposefully spreading misinformation to make people look bad?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjeknklzn39o

I really don’t need to do anything to make people look bad. I’m watching TV right now and it’s utterly depressing that we’re dealing with this bollocks in the UK.

I assume from your post you are anti Zionist? And don’t believe in a Jewish state?

People are well within their rights to protest against a team who shouldn’t even be playing European football in the first place. It’s utterly depressing that you’re spreading misinformation about these ‘jews aren’t welcome’ signs, when you know very well that’s not what the sign said. The MTV fans are well known to be hooligans, good on Birmingham for not standing for it.

Yes, I am anti zionist. I would like for jews to have a state but not at the expense of Palestinian lives

I’m always on the side of the people who think screaming at an elderly man for no reason is pretty disgusting.

Look, we can pretend all we like but it’s clear what those signs mean. And I stand corrected on the wording.

Sectarianism in the UK is a worrying trend and it’s naive to pretend this is just a protest about football.

All the reports talk about a pre organised “jew hunt”.

I bet Prince W is happy to be in Belem for this.

The politicisation of anything non political is awful. I hope it goes without trouble.

They also talk about Maccabi fans changing anti arab slurs/ singing about raping arab women and them ripping down flags. The Jew Hunt messages on whatsapp that were found are disgusting end of. But, lets not pretend MTA fans are not racist violent thugs

Parts of Birmingham are absolutely awful now. And I say that as a religious ethnic minority (one of the minorities that people generally don’t give a fuck about or even mention when doing their right-on EDI crap).
They only give a fuck about one religious group in this city.

Jews literally live in Birmingham right now, and live their lives everyday without any problems. Sectarianism is a problem but it’s just not what is happening tonight at the protests

Always time for a light bit of anti-semitism on mumsnet of an evening. How delightful.

Jews in the UK are the most likely to be on the receiving end of racism per capita. Why on earth we are tolerating this is beyond me.

Ok, I’m actually laughing.

You think sectarianism has nothing to do with what’s going on tonight? You still think it’s about football. Okaaaay…

There aren’t even going to be any Israeli fans. It’s racism.i’m going to be honest I’m sick of this shit.

There are MTA fans there

And you might want to speak to the guy interviewed on TV earlier who is Jewish and said that there are most definitely ‘no go’ areas in Birmingham for Jews.

Christ, there literally are fans there protesting outside. How hard is it for everyone to fucking have a look at the news reports rather than shitting on muslims on Mumsnet