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Is the way this Government is behaving normal for a Government?

77 replies

BionicWomansAnkle · 06/11/2025 09:14

I don’t remember briefings weeks before budgets telling us how bad they’d be, constant kite flying regarding tax raises almost immediately after one budget has ended, regularly finding ‘black holes’ that almost exactly match up to money they’ve just spent and constantly shifting definitions of who exactly those with ‘the broadest shoulders’ are.
YABU - Yes this has always happened
YANBU -No this is not ordinary

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MrsSkylerWhite · 08/11/2025 13:03

littleroundsquares · 08/11/2025 13:00

For me, the most puzzling thing is that despite being career politicians, they seem to have no awareness of how it all looks. For example in a week where there’s ‘leaks’ about tax rises and some banded properties doubling in council tax, the PM pops off to Brazil for 48 hours. Or every single time one of his cabinet ministers lands themselves in hot water, the first thing he does is offer them his ‘full confidence’ before inevitably having to backtrack a few days later.

The early semi announcement of the budget was presumably done so the Press would hyperventilate and make people think the worst so that by the time the actual budget arrives and it’s probably not quite as bad as people feared, we’ll feel this odd sense of ‘gratitude’.

Honestly, it feels like political interns are running the country.

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“Popping off to Brazil” is part of his job.

He’s performed pretty well internationally.

EasternStandard · 08/11/2025 13:05

BionicWomansAnkle · 08/11/2025 12:59

Completely agree. I think the children education tax was an undeniable demonstration of hate and ignorance, it does not bode well for the future that we have so many of these people living in our communities.

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True

mugglewump · 08/11/2025 13:08

I think the sign-posting is because of the rumour mongering by the right-wing press. They would prefer to get their own message out there than have the Torygraph, Daily Fail and Ex-press leading a 1984 Big Brother style hate frenzy.

EasternStandard · 08/11/2025 13:11

mugglewump · 08/11/2025 13:08

I think the sign-posting is because of the rumour mongering by the right-wing press. They would prefer to get their own message out there than have the Torygraph, Daily Fail and Ex-press leading a 1984 Big Brother style hate frenzy.

Labour are doing this by themselves.

BionicWomansAnkle · 08/11/2025 13:11

mugglewump · 08/11/2025 13:08

I think the sign-posting is because of the rumour mongering by the right-wing press. They would prefer to get their own message out there than have the Torygraph, Daily Fail and Ex-press leading a 1984 Big Brother style hate frenzy.

Rachel literally did a briefing? I’m not sure you can blame anyone else for that although I have a feeling you will.

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littleroundsquares · 08/11/2025 13:30

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/11/2025 13:03

“Popping off to Brazil” is part of his job.

He’s performed pretty well internationally.

International schmoozing is part of the job, yes. But my point was about optics - they hinted heavily at tax rises knowing full well it would provoke the media and massively spook/worry some people AND they did it in the same week they knew he’d be leaving the country for what some commentators would view as a ‘jolly’. That’s just a really amateur move. Optics are everything in politics.

hamstersarse · 08/11/2025 13:32

I think the markets sussed out this lot a while ago so I'm not sure it was about calming them down, I am thinking this is all about calming us down and preventing civil unrest.

I cannot imagine tax payers are going to be cockahoop when they come for their raid, and then announce there are no spending cuts.

There is absolutely no evidence at all that this government know how to wisely use taxpayer money, indeed there is a lot of evidence they have no clue how to use taxpayer money for the good of our country - e.g. Chagos Islands, paying off the Junior doctors who are now going on strike again, unable to reduce the welfare bill, Net Zero- public spending for them is estimated to be at around 45% of GDP and all services are absolutely horrendously inefficient. I just think people are reaching / have reached their limit, and it is a shaky line they are treading. And that is without even mentioning the blatant lies they told in their manifesto. Doesn't look good for them.

Needlenardlenoo · 08/11/2025 13:40

I remember in 2009 (I think) working on a government funded charity project and being told we couldn't do any publicity for weeks? maybe even months? before the election date because of "purdah". We weren't even government employees!

Pluto46 · 08/11/2025 13:44

Fearfulsaints · 06/11/2025 10:54

I think its fair to say that any government would be making cuts and raising taxes as its basically the only available choice.

My tory mp made a comment about how it was good it was a labour government because they coukd get away with making cuts/raising taxes in a way his party couldn't. I thought it was pretty telling.

Id hate to be un government now.

The trouble is they are not making any cuts, even where is desperately needed - they are just raising taxes

Phial · 08/11/2025 13:45

The right wing media are more interested in whipping up fear when the government is not so right wing. I hesitate to call Labour let wing but they are lefter than the media.

patooties · 08/11/2025 13:47

Swiftie1878 · 06/11/2025 09:25

Tbh, I think this is very typical for a Labour government, mostly because the party’s National Executive Committee ‘running’ the party rather than its leader - only Tony Blair changed this (for a short while).
Governing by consensus is always very tricky.

Absolute nonsense. The NEC are nothing to do with the budget 🤣

HRTQueen · 08/11/2025 13:48

I think Reeves is preparing markets and the public so maybe it won’t be such a shock

There is already a lot of concern around the financial markets

Labour should have never made such promises they didn’t even need to that is the bizarre thing they have made this more difficult for themselves

Sesma · 08/11/2025 13:49

I don't think we have had a little press conference before the budget before so obviously all is not well

Julen7 · 08/11/2025 13:55

Gruffporcupine · 06/11/2025 11:18

I totally agree. Used to be a total socialist leftist, but then grew up. Nothing is free, because somebody else is paying for it. The fundamental problem with the left is the total denial that people's obligations are to family first, followed by friends, community, countrymen, rest of world. If you take away people's ability to care for their families, and give their efforts away to random people, they will rebel in any way they can. This is what people are doing when they see the twenty thousandth random bloke arrive by boat at Dover, or the two hundredth thousandth person with a nice new Motability car. They are thinking f that, and avoiding being the mug that foots the bill at all costs, and finding ways to keep their money and time for family. We can accept that, or not. Either way, it's coming to an end

Post of the day ^^

ComfortFoodCafe · 08/11/2025 13:57

reeves is trying to prepare the markets so they dont crash on budget day. She is a not qualified for the job and has made a pigs ear of it. Hopefully she will booted out & the budget revised.

EasternStandard · 08/11/2025 13:58

Sesma · 08/11/2025 13:49

I don't think we have had a little press conference before the budget before so obviously all is not well

You’re right, there hasn’t been.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/11/2025 13:58

littleroundsquares · 08/11/2025 13:30

International schmoozing is part of the job, yes. But my point was about optics - they hinted heavily at tax rises knowing full well it would provoke the media and massively spook/worry some people AND they did it in the same week they knew he’d be leaving the country for what some commentators would view as a ‘jolly’. That’s just a really amateur move. Optics are everything in politics.

That’s what the chancellor is for.

BionicWomansAnkle · 08/11/2025 14:22

Phial · 08/11/2025 13:45

The right wing media are more interested in whipping up fear when the government is not so right wing. I hesitate to call Labour let wing but they are lefter than the media.

The leaks and briefings are coming from the Government

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Swiftie1878 · 08/11/2025 14:26

patooties · 08/11/2025 13:47

Absolute nonsense. The NEC are nothing to do with the budget 🤣

They are absolutely to do with policy and the direction of the party. If you think that doesn’t affect a budget…. You do you!

Locutus2000 · 08/11/2025 16:18

Julen7 · 08/11/2025 13:55

Post of the day ^^

Not really, could be read in any Daily Mail comments section.

Julen7 · 08/11/2025 16:53

Locutus2000 · 08/11/2025 16:18

Not really, could be read in any Daily Mail comments section.

Sorry, it’s how a a lot of people feel. As you will find out at the next election.

Washingbasquait · 08/11/2025 16:57

I think Rachel Reeves gets a hard time in the media and a lot of it because she’s a woman - that said, I have rarely seen someone who looks and speaks so clearly like they don’t have a clue what to do next.

No plan, no vision, constant blaming of everyone and everything else (some of which is valid). I have zero sense of what they want the UK economy to be. And utterly terrified of doing the wrong thing, instead of just following their convictions.

Jamesblonde2 · 08/11/2025 17:31

Julen7 · 08/11/2025 16:53

Sorry, it’s how a a lot of people feel. As you will find out at the next election.

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Agreed Julen7.

Dbank · 08/11/2025 17:34

I think you raise a good point, it does seem to be rapidly descending into clown-car politics.

We've had broken promises, blatant lying, blame everyone else, and now a total failure to take ownership.

The forthcoming budget will highlight just how much they have damaged the economy, and we all know they are going to take a pasting in the local elections.

I really doubt they will last another 4 years.