AIBU to feedback to school about teachers use of glottal stops

[TalomaPaith]

Children at Dcs school are split into different groups for phonics.

Parents are sometimes invited to watch lessons. I observed a lesson by a teacher using glottal stops I.e Let'er instead of letter.

Would IBU to mention this?

@TalomaPaith It’s not setting them up for failure though is it? I completely understand your concern but you’re placing too much importance on this. Your DC is taking in SO much information linguistically, this is only a tiny fraction of the influence. As I said before, model your ‘ideal’ at home and recognise you don’t get to control every aspect of your child’s life.

Rude! Both also sound the same to me, in my local accent there really is barely a difference. Or course I know they are spelt and written differently but in fast speech they are the same sound almost. Like flower and flour or blue and blew.

You need to send your child to private school if you want to thrash a regional accent out of them.

When my mum did her teacher training apparently elocution was part of the course. The goal was as close to RP as possible for everyone as regional accents were frowned on and considered unprofessional.

A glottal stop is not an essential part of any accent in south east England

It's a distinctive feature of Estuary English, as in the Thames Estuary, ie South East England!

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It would v much bother me if my kids picked it up, but it's a perfectly valid way to speak, so if you don't like it, you will have to find a different school (possibly one that you pay for) or move regions

I think it's only a cockney thing, or whatever cockney is now called

What? Being dyslexic is not an insult! It was a genuine question. Difficulties with phonological discrimination is a feature of dyslexia.

Agree! That is why reading is so important as children learn the right words and replicate. It is not all about phonics but I do sometimes re-coil when my son writes something in 'my accent" (due to his phonics understanding). My accent is more cockney than where we live now. But he's a reader and will continue to naturally learn the spellings. He is at at secondary now and I was very pleased to see that the teachers are focused on his understanding of the subject rather than just his spellings.

Just chalk it down to experience. DDs pronunciation varies between slightly more posh London/RP (DH and family), Mancunian (me) and slightly estuarine (local accents). Some other kids can throw an extra couple of languages into the mix, never mind accents and dialects.

I remember kids at my infant school writing "I were" instead of "I was" as that was Manchester/Lancashire dialect and "Are" instead of "Our" as it's pronounced the same in Manchester 🙂I knew the difference as I was an avid reader.

you're nuts FYI

Lots of Scottish people pronounce letters properly, thanks all the same.

And how does this set up kids for failure??

Oh god "our" is one of mine ( I say "our" as "are" rather hour, which is closer I think). Another one is is bald and bold. But I do know how they should be spelt when written down and context.

It really doesn't I hope. I'm guessing because I'm a professional woman with an accent.

You’ve not said what your remedy would be OP? What do you want to happen as a result of your intervention?

More parents making nonsense problems to complain about. I feel sorry for the teacher.

DS is in an international school and is picking up loads of these American pronunciations. They fall heavy on my Yorkshire ear.

To me it will always be watter

My children heard regional accents and glottal stops outside our home. I explained to them that accents vary, and it is part of the history of this island. Mr X might say wa’er, we say water. A learning opportunity for your children perhaps? Millions of children have coped hearing different accents during their education, the sky did not fall in.

When my DD was in Y5 she used to get a typed sheet with a spelling list on it. Every week without fail at least one word would be spelled incorrectly
I felt I had to point it out as if the children didn't get a certain number of words right then missed break time that day and they were obviously teaching children the wrong spelling for lots of words. It was embarrassing though.
After a few weeks the spellings came home with the correct spelling.
I wouldn't complain about how someone speaks though. That's just being rude.

When my daughter was in primary school i was sat in my car outside while a teacher was doing some planting with the children
The teacher said "today I'm going to learn you" and I completely forgot my window was down and I said "I think you'll find you're going to teach them not learn them"
She whipped her head round to me like I had just slapped her
I was so embarrassed that she heard me and she glared at me the rest of the time my daughter attended the school

I wouldn't make a comment if I we're you, just reinforce pronunciation at home

Instead of wasting your time complaining, just teach your child yourself if you are worried. You are a teacher after all and it is quite quick and easy to teach a child to read if they don’t have any learning difficulties.

Please do and tell us who it went 🤣🤣🤣