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Why’s the John Lewis’ Xmas Ad so bloody menacing!

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Purplefoo · 04/11/2025 09:13

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/04/john-lewis-christmas-advert-countdown-90s-club-classic-where-love-lives

I genuinely thought it was about an abusive dad or a murderous son at first! So intense……

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BrieHugger · 04/11/2025 16:59

Catpiece · 04/11/2025 16:54

That’s only your interpretation. I don’t see things so bleakly. Perhaps I’m lucky

I think this is it. Some people see the positives more than the negatives whether that be because of life experiences or because of their general outlook. Personally, I love it.

runrabbitrunrabbitrun · 04/11/2025 17:00

I love it, made me cry. Took me right back to the 90’s.

Ladybugheart · 04/11/2025 17:00

BIWI · 04/11/2025 10:02

My God some of you are spectacularly missing the point!

It’s about fathers reconnecting with their children (a son especially). The son bought the record for his dad, which takes him back to his younger days - and remembering how much he loves his son, and how close they used to be. The gift and the (now teenage) son seeing his dad enjoying it, bring them back together again. Strengthening the bond between them.

I thought it was brilliant. Managed to be moving without any of the schmaltzy Christmas stuff we’ve seen before.

This. I didn't receive it negatively or menacing at all!

I took it to be a teenage boy who wanted to get their dad something special, embarrassed or nervous about it maybe, and a dad who just had a whole flood of memories come back to him, brought on by his son's thoughtfulness.

What Christmas is all about surely?!

museumum · 04/11/2025 17:01

Yeh, it's too too much - a relatable difficulty in connecting with your teen son story would have been great... but this one looks like it's hiding layers of repressed rage and a murder or two... it's just overdone.

TheRocksStoppedRolling · 04/11/2025 17:04

User5306921 · 04/11/2025 16:39

Weird ad. I don't understand how people say its a tearjerker.

I thought it was about violence and abuse in the home, with the mother clearing away signs of Christmas, the sister's furtive looks, and a very sad looking autistic boy running upstairs.

I'd never associate it with joyfulness or the other associations people imagne having at Christmas time.

You only need to read threads here to see how many miserable families there are, living with abuse, often minimising and excusing it and the kids are stuck in the middle of the shit, utterly powerless. Christmas Day on here is full of threads about men ruining Xmas with their moods, lack of effort, silent treatment, sulking etc. The family in the advert look miserable, the children look on edge and very uncomfortable. I really didn’t like it, it made me feel quite uneasy.

TheRocksStoppedRolling · 04/11/2025 17:07

BrieHugger · 04/11/2025 16:59

I think this is it. Some people see the positives more than the negatives whether that be because of life experiences or because of their general outlook. Personally, I love it.

My mum would put a positive spin on the advert, but her standards for men and fathers are on the floor. I’d call it minimising moody arse men who don’t bother to build a good relationship with their children, rather than seeing the positive.

PollyIndia · 04/11/2025 17:08

BrieHugger · 04/11/2025 10:18

Well it made me blub. It could be my house and my family, the teenage boy looks just like my son complete with permanently attached headphones.

As an ex clubber having sometimes tricky times with teenagers, I completely identified with it. And yes it’ll make me shop there more than if it’d been their typical schmaltzy ad.

I normally hate Christmas ads and am not usually sentimental, but this one got me!

Same! I like the way they went from the original Alison Limerick into the Labrynth cover too. At no point did I think the son was dead... thats a weird take imo! He's back in the club remembering being young and fun hearing the record, then he is pulled back into the present seeing his son, remembering all the moments that have happened since. Completely relatable to me!

I personally hate the sickly schmaltzy ads. I love this. But it's probably been made by someone relatively similar to me. I can see from this thread that it's not going to be one of their more popular ones!

AllGoodNamesRGone · 04/11/2025 17:08

BarmyFotheringay · 04/11/2025 09:56

I wasn't aware John Lewis sold vinyl records 🤔

Me neither. But the ad did it's job because I went online and looked. Thought the prices were better than a well known high street shop that sells vinyls. I actually ordered one, rather than where I was originally going to buy it from!

AiryFairy1 · 04/11/2025 17:10

BarmyFotheringay · 04/11/2025 09:56

I wasn't aware John Lewis sold vinyl records 🤔

Same here!

Lavender1974 · 04/11/2025 17:12

This thread is bonkers. 😂 It’s a gorgeous advert. I love it. So do my friends on various WhatsApp groups. So did the 25 Yr 11s in my Media class today. They totally got it.

PollyIndia · 04/11/2025 17:14

Lavender1974 · 04/11/2025 17:12

This thread is bonkers. 😂 It’s a gorgeous advert. I love it. So do my friends on various WhatsApp groups. So did the 25 Yr 11s in my Media class today. They totally got it.

I just watched it again to see if I could remotely see any of the negativity, and cried all over again. I'm peri menopausal though, but I love it, it's such a brilliant ad.

Iremembercandlecove · 04/11/2025 17:18

It looked to me like the son was just anxious in case his dad didn’t like the gift 🤷‍♀️

PollyIndia · 04/11/2025 17:19

Iremembercandlecove · 04/11/2025 17:18

It looked to me like the son was just anxious in case his dad didn’t like the gift 🤷‍♀️

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exactly!

TheRocksStoppedRolling · 04/11/2025 17:22

@Lavender1974

I think most would ‘get it’. The question is do they think it’s normal for family life, because if they do that is really sad.

LilyCanna · 04/11/2025 17:24

I don't like schmaltzy Christmas ads either, but there are lots of other ways they could have done it - used a bit of humour or put some reason to explain why everyone seems a bit tense at the beginning. Or why there's that really weird thing of leaving one present under the tree and not mentioning it - wtf?
Some people are saying it's wilful misinterpretation, but we are all used to seeing visual tropes in films and TV and making predictions about what will happen next. So that bit where he stopped clubbing and saw his son and the music slows down and everything fades around them to black, of course loads of people think 'something really bad is going to happen' because usually that is exactly what happens with that sort of imagery.
And when the boy and his dad hug, the first thing that sprang to mind for me was that it didn't look like an 'I'm really touched by that present' hug but as someone else said, that it looked like two people comforting each other after a bereavement! Then finally at the very very end of the ad it eventually lightens up with the boy giving a bit of a sheepish smile and the dad doing a bit of crap dancing.
It didn't shout 'grumpy father makes everyone walk on eggshells all the time' to me (though I can see why other people thought so), I just thought it was a bit shit.

Tulipvase · 04/11/2025 17:28

I loved it and it made me cry. Great song too.

But I hate all the shit adverts like Kevin the fucking carrot and trolls running around stealing people’s Christmas dinners.

Delatron · 04/11/2025 17:30

Just spent some time going through all the comments on Instagram. Maybe they’ve deleted any bad ones but everyone on there (mainly parents of teens and Gen X ravers) absolutely love it.

JaneJeffer · 04/11/2025 17:31

Upstartled · 04/11/2025 16:56

No, not really, just more, oooh I liked dancing once, poor me, wish I was young, oh but now I have a family, sigh, oh man, I forgot he was little once, guess he likes music too - I suppose we'll keep him. Maybe I should say something? But no, I am but a man.

I mean give me Slade and a table full of family feasting over this navel gazing shit any day of the week.

😂 well said

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 04/11/2025 17:32

Thought it was naff tbh. I didn’t get the point of it.

BIossomtoes · 04/11/2025 17:33

AllGoodNamesRGone · 04/11/2025 17:08

Me neither. But the ad did it's job because I went online and looked. Thought the prices were better than a well known high street shop that sells vinyls. I actually ordered one, rather than where I was originally going to buy it from!

You’re living proof that the ad works. It’s done exactly what it’s intended to.

MinnieBaldock · 04/11/2025 17:36

Well no matter what anyone is thinking about the ad It's not giving me shop at John Lewis vibes which let's be fair that's what John Lewis wants you to do. So to me it's missed it's mark. The Boots ad is much better and I expect the Aldi carrot will be very Christmassy.

MrsZiggywinkle · 04/11/2025 17:36

It’s so bloody deep and meaningful.

Give me woodland animals bouncing on a trampoline any day!

namehomesafe · 04/11/2025 17:36

Yep, I thought the son was dead.

Needmorelego · 04/11/2025 17:39

BIossomtoes · 04/11/2025 17:33

You’re living proof that the ad works. It’s done exactly what it’s intended to.

But is the Rough Trade concession permanent? It's only been there since February apparently (and not in every branch it seems).
Did JL sell vinyl before that in the last few years? Will they be selling it in six months time?
That's the thing with department stores. They sell so much variety so any advertising really needs to be clear on what they actually sell.

Upstartled · 04/11/2025 17:39

BIossomtoes · 04/11/2025 17:33

You’re living proof that the ad works. It’s done exactly what it’s intended to.

I mean, if you need to look for signs of living proof an advert is working then it doesn't bode well.