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OMG! Rupert Lowe: comments on maternity/labour wards

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drummingfingers · 01/11/2025 21:07

Rupert Lowe* is the MP for Great Yarmouth (controversial enough to get kicked out of Reform, earlier this year and is now sitting as an Independent).

Just hopped on to his Facebook page as I assumed it was a joke, but no its true:

He posted yesterday:
Giving birth is obviously an incredibly challenging experience for the mother - trust me, nobody is denying that. I do think though, that fathers should be shown more respect by the NHS during the whole process.
No food provided, no basic bedding, nothing.
The father is having a child too - potentially staying multiple nights, sleeping on the floor or a chair?
If the NHS can find hundreds of millions for translation/interpretation and the rest of the diversity bullshit, then surely a few campbeds in each ward isn't such an impossible investment? Maybe a bowl of pasta for the dad, who does actually pay for that meal through his own taxes?
I've asked the Department of Health to reconsider their approach.
It would be nice if fathers weren't treated as some awkward afterthought, during the process and often across wider society.
Let's give dads the respect they deserve.

Well, Mumsnetters, should the NHS really be focussing on this.....surely a partner could pop to a hospital snack bar or bring in his own snacks FFS. Does this MP genuinely think its the most pressing thing for the NHS to providing extra hot meals?????????????

  • Rupert was the savvy MP who reported to Border Force a dingy he saw off the coast of Yarmouth as he was worried that it was full of illegals.....he proclaimed "I am chasing them now"..... but it was just some charity rowers raising funds for MND.
OP posts:
Didimum · 02/11/2025 15:05

Ponderingwindow · 02/11/2025 15:02

I’m not in the uk and find the stories of post-birth care absolutely horrifying.

our local hospital served women of all financial means. Every woman had a private room. It included a small, albeit uncomfortable bed, with bedding for the father. He was able to order meals from the same menu as the mother and just pay for them. We were treated as a family that was staying together because that is what we were. He was there to support the baby and the mother and was considered an absolutely essential person.

when my child is in the hospital it works the same way. I have a bed. I can order from the menu just like she can, I just pay for my food separately. We have a room for the two of us. the expectation is that a parent will be with her at all times.

We experienced the same in our UK hospital to be fair.

Whatshesaid96 · 02/11/2025 15:11

GreenFrogYellow · 01/11/2025 21:26

Men in post natal wards overnight feels wrong to me anyway. Although I do understand if had a section etc it means mum has much more difficulty and may need extra support, I’m bloody sure it would be a better investment employing a couple more MSWs than making the blokes more comfortable. I don’t want multiple snoring, farting blokes in the bay when I’ve just given birth.

I agree.

I also think if there were more help for women after sections then it's actually more use for a man to go home and sleep. DH was a godsend with DC2 in that because he got a good night's sleep he wasn't driving us home sleep deprived, he was able to take over and I went to bed for a few hours once home. However the men on the postnatal ward kept me awake throughout the night going backwards and forwards for food, phone calls and loud chat. I ended up keeping my curtains closed because I felt a little vulnerable trying to establish breastfeeding again with men only feet away.

To add to the OP, why don't men actually sort themselves out at the same time a woman sorts her own hospital bag out? My DH packed himself a rucksack that stayed with my bags. There were plenty of spare snacks, things he could add hot water to, painkillers and spare clothing / deodorant. He never actually needed any of it but it was there if we we weren't discharged quickly.

barskits · 02/11/2025 15:14

The man is clearly a fuckwit.

Rosecoffeecup · 02/11/2025 15:20

Oh look he's written another letter today to the PM about the train attack

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 02/11/2025 16:07

This is what happens when you think translation is woke nonsense

OMG! Rupert Lowe: comments on maternity/labour wards
OMG! Rupert Lowe: comments on maternity/labour wards
Kirbert2 · 02/11/2025 17:32

Didimum · 02/11/2025 09:06

The topic of the thread isn’t ‘who should get hospital canteen vouchers’, the topic of the thread is about fathers post natal.

You mentioned hospital canteen vouchers and I was just pointing out that fathers of newborns aren't the only parents in hospital so it wouldn't feel fair just offering it to them.

TwelvePiecesOfFlair · 02/11/2025 17:37

Geranium879 · 01/11/2025 21:20

The absolute hell of being wide awake on a postnatal ward listening to fucking men snoring all night. They need to fuck off at night time not be encouraged and fed!

This all day long.

TwelvePiecesOfFlair · 02/11/2025 17:41

Inertia · 01/11/2025 22:43

There isn’t even enough provision for the women giving birth- women in labour are frequently told there is no bed available, and women struggle with limited midwife support. The NHS should start with meeting with needs of mothers and babies on antenatal wards.

Men shouldn’t be staying on antenatal wards unless in a private room- post-partum women should not have to sleep with strange men.

Exactly. Women are routinely treated like utter shit on maternity wards, and conditions are often actually dangerous. Men can fend for themselves! ( And be as unobtrusive as possible..memories of sitting in bed covered in blood trying to get a latch on the other side of a gappy curtain to multiple space guzzling noisy men..)

SleepingStandingUp · 02/11/2025 17:58

Didimum · 02/11/2025 14:53

Sure it can. But I’m not being pulled up on not offering vouchers for parents of sick children when it’s not connected to my comment.

But it is connected to your comment. The other poster is pointing out that no other parents in hospitals are offered vouchers so why should Dad's of newborns?

Kirbert2 · 02/11/2025 18:02

SleepingStandingUp · 02/11/2025 17:58

But it is connected to your comment. The other poster is pointing out that no other parents in hospitals are offered vouchers so why should Dad's of newborns?

Exactly.

I'd also add that depending on the hospital, canteen vouchers would also be useless for dinner/weekends as some hospital canteens close very early and some aren't open at all at the weekend.

CarpetKnees · 02/11/2025 18:52

As a tangent, I think that if you leave the party you were supported by in your campaign to be elected, then it should trigger a by-election, and the MP shouldn't just be allowed to continue either as an independent or as a member of a different party.

I mean, he is obviously a twat, and I wouldn't support Reform however much I were bribed, but I'm guessing most people who did vote for him were voting for the party, not for him as an individual.

Didimum · 02/11/2025 18:54

Kirbert2 · 02/11/2025 17:32

You mentioned hospital canteen vouchers and I was just pointing out that fathers of newborns aren't the only parents in hospital so it wouldn't feel fair just offering it to them.

Edited

I didn’t say it would be. But the topic I’m responding to is about fathers of newborns. So.

Superhansrantowindsor · 03/11/2025 06:36

100Otters · 02/11/2025 14:51

This is the problem at the moment though. I’m expecting my first baby in the next few weeks. The hospital have made it perfectly clear that they expect partners to stay overnight on the ward and that if your partner can’t/you don’t have one you need to flag it as an issue as the staff don’t have the capacity to care for you and the baby.

Wed both much rather DH could go home and get some proper rest but equally I don’t want to be trapped on the ward feeling vulnerable with a load of other women’s partners and without mine to look after me.

I was going to at least send him home for a few hours overnight but for good reasons they lock the doors at 10pm so it looks like he will have to stay. I wish it wasn’t like this and I am aware I am perpetuating the problem, but equally I’m not selfless enough to martyr myself to make a point at one of the most vulnerable times of my life.

He can bring his own sleeping bag and fetch his own dinner though!

Edited

That’s awful! Hopefully you’ll give birth at 5 am and can go home by 5pm so you don’t have to do this.

Mistyglade · 03/11/2025 08:45

Geranium879 · 01/11/2025 21:20

The absolute hell of being wide awake on a postnatal ward listening to fucking men snoring all night. They need to fuck off at night time not be encouraged and fed!

Some bloke opposite me on the ward sounded like a juggernaut dragging gravel across a slurry at 900 decibels the poor lamb.

Q2C4 · 03/11/2025 09:22

Mistyglade · 03/11/2025 08:45

Some bloke opposite me on the ward sounded like a juggernaut dragging gravel across a slurry at 900 decibels the poor lamb.

I didn’t have any snoring men on either of my postnatal wards as no one was asleep during to all the screaming babies!!

I recall feeling rage after my second trip where we’d tried and failed to get a private room despite offering to pay. Apparently they were reserved for those whose gender was not aligned to the majority on a maternity ward so that they would not be made to feel uncomfortable being surrounded by women who had just given birth.

Mistyglade · 03/11/2025 09:39

Q2C4 · 03/11/2025 09:22

I didn’t have any snoring men on either of my postnatal wards as no one was asleep during to all the screaming babies!!

I recall feeling rage after my second trip where we’d tried and failed to get a private room despite offering to pay. Apparently they were reserved for those whose gender was not aligned to the majority on a maternity ward so that they would not be made to feel uncomfortable being surrounded by women who had just given birth.

Yep, I wasn’t given a private room to be near my 7 weeks prem baby in scbu, rather dumped alone down the ward near said snorey dads whilst I recovered from an emergency c section with such severe pre eclampsia my head has swelled twice its size!

FeatheryFlorence · 03/11/2025 09:45

My meal after giving birth was bubble and squeak and chips because I had missed the meal round and that’s all there was in the canteen.

FeatheryFlorence · 03/11/2025 09:47

That said, when DD was ill when we were on holiday in Scotland, I was given a bed next to her, and the entire family was fed when we were there at dinner time. In London I got a chair and not so much as a cup of tea, and wasn’t allowed to leave her as they were short staffed.

JackJarvisEsq · 03/11/2025 09:51

Considering I didn’t get fed because I was unable to walk to the dining room after a section I’ll save my sympathies

Q2C4 · 03/11/2025 09:56

Mistyglade · 03/11/2025 09:39

Yep, I wasn’t given a private room to be near my 7 weeks prem baby in scbu, rather dumped alone down the ward near said snorey dads whilst I recovered from an emergency c section with such severe pre eclampsia my head has swelled twice its size!

I’m so sorry to hear that. Childbirth can be do traumatic - it’s appalling how women are treated.

GiantYorkshirePud · 03/11/2025 10:00

I gave birth in February, had a csection.

I was desperate for DH to stay, but he had to go home, which I guess was good as I wouldnt want someone elses strange husband wandering around the wards.

However, there needs to be more support for mums on the wards, especially csection mums.

My baby was born with a birth defect, which meant she required special feeding bottles. I only had 3 until the specialist nurse came to see me the next morning. So i had to steralise them while lugging around a full catheter bag that kept constantly getting stuck on my bed while DD was on the opposite side fussing in her cot. In the end the nurses gave me empty sterile bottles to use. I hurt myself alot constantly getting up (dd fussed all night), ended up with an infection, and decided to just hold DD all night until DH was allowed back on the ward at 8am. It felt really grim.

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