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The press need to move on?

62 replies

dearydeary · 01/11/2025 08:37

I wish the focus would move away from Andrew to the other individuals who were involved in the mistreatment of women trafficked by Epstein?

AIBU- to wish they would move on and widen their reporting?

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BIossomtoes · 01/11/2025 10:09

Sadcafe · 01/11/2025 09:04

I’ve said the same on several other threads, he’s not the only person to have been friends with Epstein but no one really seems to mention them, some of it does seem to be the obsession with royal bashing

I feel the same way. It’s getting quite performative and spiteful now. There were numerous equally disgusting men who did equally vile things and are hiding in plain sight. It’s about time the spotlight extended to them.

Ponoka7 · 01/11/2025 10:12

Mandelson has got off lightly, he needs chasing out of the house of lords. They should all be in the press. No-one was calling for Meghan to be let up on, even when it was lies.

Kimura · 01/11/2025 10:13

Summerhillsquare · 01/11/2025 08:45

The reporting on Andrew is to show no one is protected in the UK, sends a message.

It really isn't, that's an incredibly naive point of view.

The reason salacious stories like this get so much coverage is that they generate a massive amount of web traffic, which is the only thing keeping the lights on in the news media world these days.

First social media, then the manipulation of search algorithms completely changed the way we consume news/journalism/content online.

Most of the stories your read on big news websites are no longer written or at least edited by journalists, they're done by SEO specialists to ensure that they perform well on Google.

The media have zero interest in 'sending a message' that people like Andrew aren't protected in the UK. As long as people keep reading, watching and searching for all the guff they put out about him, they'll keep publishing it.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 01/11/2025 10:16

They will move on when interest declines

But threads like this do rather suggest it hasn't

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 01/11/2025 10:18

Is anyone else watching Andrew's wikipedia page, wondering when the bloody hell they're going to update the title? 😄

Having worked with Andrew on occasion I can confirm this will be Hell for him and I must admit I am highly enjoying it 😊

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 01/11/2025 10:19

Ponoka7 · 01/11/2025 10:12

Mandelson has got off lightly, he needs chasing out of the house of lords. They should all be in the press. No-one was calling for Meghan to be let up on, even when it was lies.

Yes!!! ❤️❤️❤️

Q2C4 · 01/11/2025 10:19

LookAtMeWithStarryEyes · 01/11/2025 08:51

No, this is a huge news story. Virginias family want this in the news after everything she went through, which resulted in her death, so I’m all for it. Destroy the cunt.

Hopefully the focus will then shift to others. They all need their time in the spotlight individually and each time it should be long and drawn out! If we moved onto others so soon it would water Andrew’s (and each individuals) part down. Let’s not do that.

Isn’t there a risk that if the focus is on one individual too long, the media will move on before the others are reported on?

LookAtMeWithStarryEyes · 01/11/2025 10:24

Q2C4 · 01/11/2025 10:19

Isn’t there a risk that if the focus is on one individual too long, the media will move on before the others are reported on?

No because the bigger story is still in the press. And the US press are already more focused on their own.

BMW6 · 01/11/2025 10:29

I haven't read her book nor do I wish to but surely she names others who had sex with her other than Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

If she has named them why isn't there media coverage? If she hasn't isn't that rather odd that he's the only one?

HoskinsChoice · 01/11/2025 10:43

LookAtMeWithStarryEyes · 01/11/2025 08:51

No, this is a huge news story. Virginias family want this in the news after everything she went through, which resulted in her death, so I’m all for it. Destroy the cunt.

Hopefully the focus will then shift to others. They all need their time in the spotlight individually and each time it should be long and drawn out! If we moved onto others so soon it would water Andrew’s (and each individuals) part down. Let’s not do that.

Do you really believe that Virginia's family are doing it for her? Where were they when she was being abused as a child? Where were they when she was abused by Epstein and a whole raft of other people? Where were they when she was abused ny her husband? Where were they when she was telling the media she'd been in a fatal accident? Where were they when she had her children taken off her? Why are they just focusing on Andrew? Why aren't they talking to the media about all of these other people and events that have happened to her? Why aren't they asking the public and the media to scour the world for the other people who she claims were abused along side her so they can back up her story and they can help them? They have been absent throughout her life until kerching there's money to be made in selling books and courting the media?

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 01/11/2025 10:46

HoskinsChoice · 01/11/2025 10:43

Do you really believe that Virginia's family are doing it for her? Where were they when she was being abused as a child? Where were they when she was abused by Epstein and a whole raft of other people? Where were they when she was abused ny her husband? Where were they when she was telling the media she'd been in a fatal accident? Where were they when she had her children taken off her? Why are they just focusing on Andrew? Why aren't they talking to the media about all of these other people and events that have happened to her? Why aren't they asking the public and the media to scour the world for the other people who she claims were abused along side her so they can back up her story and they can help them? They have been absent throughout her life until kerching there's money to be made in selling books and courting the media?

Well it's her brother who's doing the talking. Her younger brother.

So I think that answers were he was when she was being abused as a child

Needmorelego · 01/11/2025 10:46

HelpMeGetThrough · 01/11/2025 09:00

The news will move on when some new disaster happens, then the channels will report that to death. Matey will be very much out of the news then.

The media has barely mentioned the appalling situation in Jamaica.

HoskinsChoice · 01/11/2025 10:48

Summerhillsquare · 01/11/2025 08:45

The reporting on Andrew is to show no one is protected in the UK, sends a message.

🤣🤣🤣 Tell me you don't understand how the media works without telling you don't how the media works...

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 10:49

HoskinsChoice · 01/11/2025 10:43

Do you really believe that Virginia's family are doing it for her? Where were they when she was being abused as a child? Where were they when she was abused by Epstein and a whole raft of other people? Where were they when she was abused ny her husband? Where were they when she was telling the media she'd been in a fatal accident? Where were they when she had her children taken off her? Why are they just focusing on Andrew? Why aren't they talking to the media about all of these other people and events that have happened to her? Why aren't they asking the public and the media to scour the world for the other people who she claims were abused along side her so they can back up her story and they can help them? They have been absent throughout her life until kerching there's money to be made in selling books and courting the media?

God, this is so nasty. Her brother was a child ffs.

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 10:52

I suspect there is much more to come on Andrew, the rest of the royals are getting ahead of the narrative.

As for all the other men implicated in the Epstein files, I expect there are plenty of them, they have lots of power and they are using it to keep the press away from the story.

cottonwoolie · 01/11/2025 10:52

I feel the same way. It’s getting quite performative and spiteful now. There were numerous equally disgusting men who did equally vile things and are hiding in plain sight. It’s about time the spotlight extended to them.

Spiteful? diddums!

He was a Prince, it makes a big difference to the spotlight.

cottonwoolie · 01/11/2025 10:53

God, this is so nasty. Her brother was a child ffs.

It's disgusting & depressing.

Q2C4 · 01/11/2025 10:57

LookAtMeWithStarryEyes · 01/11/2025 10:24

No because the bigger story is still in the press. And the US press are already more focused on their own.

That’s my point - this story will only be in the press for so long, and the other suspected perpetrators might not get the coverage they deserve. There are 450 of them aren’t there? So if they get a month each individually, consecutively, it would take over 37 years to cover them all. Clearly that’s not feasible.

BIossomtoes · 01/11/2025 11:03

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 10:52

I suspect there is much more to come on Andrew, the rest of the royals are getting ahead of the narrative.

As for all the other men implicated in the Epstein files, I expect there are plenty of them, they have lots of power and they are using it to keep the press away from the story.

We know that. It’s about time a few more of them were exposed but they’re enjoying White House protection.

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 11:10

BIossomtoes · 01/11/2025 11:03

We know that. It’s about time a few more of them were exposed but they’re enjoying White House protection.

It's quite clearly not just about Trump though. Otherwise the Biden administration would have released the files. All kinds of powerful
people are involved here.

BIossomtoes · 01/11/2025 11:26

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 11:10

It's quite clearly not just about Trump though. Otherwise the Biden administration would have released the files. All kinds of powerful
people are involved here.

Didn’t Biden occupy the White House? I didn’t mention Trump.

HoskinsChoice · 01/11/2025 12:18

TheKeatingFive · 01/11/2025 10:49

God, this is so nasty. Her brother was a child ffs.

I'm talking in it's literally sense. I'm talking about him, as a fully grown man. He does not appear to be going after her family members who abused her (and would be a million times easier to bring to justice) but he is going after the very rich, famous, media worthy ex-Prince. Why is that?

Virginia had a horrific life pretty much since the day she was born. She has been surrounded by people who used and abused her. And that has not stopped now that she gas gone. The lawyers, the media and her family. All crawling out of the woodwork looking to make a quick buck. None of them are actually doing anything useful from a justice perspective. If they were, they'd stop wasting their time on going after Andrew and focus on easier targets.

BeeWitchy · 01/11/2025 20:24

I'm talking in it's literally sense. I'm talking about him, as a fully grown man. He does not appear to be going after her family members who abused her (and would be a million times easier to bring to justice) but he is going after the very rich, famous, media worthy ex-Prince. Why is that?

“He does not appear to be”.

That’s your problem right there. You’ve not informed yourself and are guessing, otherwise you’d know what he’s been doing.

I don’t understand the impulse to want to protect anyone but the victims and the people working to help them. Target the perpetrators. Not those who were victimised.

HRTQueen · 01/11/2025 20:27

No I would rather it stayed in the headlines these men should not be getting away with ruining so many women’s lives

I would prefer more honesty around Andrew and his future. He will always be protected he will never not live a life of luxury he has too much tell

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/11/2025 21:42

YABVU @dearydeary.🤯
For so many reasons.😱

I think the press should continue to push their investigations into international corruption, trafficking and rape.

Why leave Andrew out of it?🤷‍♀️