Has anyone manifested a romantic partner or is it all nonsense to you?

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Just that really?
please tell me your experiences or if none, why you think it’s rubbish.
I’ve manifested financial surprises, gave up smoking and drinking and a healthy body.
The most recent intention I have is to enjoy a romantic relationship again in middle age.
Aibu to think this is possible when it involves human relationship rather than a ‘thing’ or an’action’?

Not in a magic way, but in a confident, decisive way then yes, that’s how most things get achieved in life I’ve realised
Eg 18 months ago a switch flipped in me and I said I’m gonna put myself out there, be a confident kickarse woman, say yes to every opportunity, just enjoy myself.
I never knew I’d be waking up in bed with my lost love from 20 years ago 😍, but doing all the things above have led me to this moment. I am still in shock, and it does feel like magic but it isn’t, just taking life into my own hands. I didn’t even have him in mind when I started, but putting myself out there led to our paths crossing.
Positive things in life can sometimes just happen to us, but why wait for that? When you can triple your chances of it by leading it yourself.

P.s and nothing negative has happened in general since I made that decision, just lots of positive things along the way

I practice occultism and witchcraft and there are people who report that they have gained the man/woman they want with the use of love magic.

This isn't "manifestation" as it is commonly defined, though. This is practical magic - spells - aimed at either getting a specific individual to fall in love with you and date you, or non-targeted love magic which is open to anyone of the desired sex and qualities.

There are specific practical steps to follow, depending on the tradition. In Hoodoo magic, for instance, you might use the Honey Jar spell to attain a romantic partner.

A lot of Goetic magic is spirit based, so a magical working in this tradition might involve doing a ritual to summon an angel or a demon (grimoires work with both) and ask it to help you get your desired partner (or just a partner generally if you don't have an individual in mind.) Again, there are specific steps that should be taken in this tradition to make contact with said spirits.

There are numerous spells in the PGM (Greek Magical Papyri) aimed at gaining the love of someone. It's one of the oldest forms of magic there is.

Do and I manifested each other

If this works then in theory you can make a billionaire or Brad Pitt fall for you? Nothing off limits?

I can't believe what I'm reading on here 😂

I did. Things happened so weirdly. I cut off my ex, people from the past popped up again and I cut them off too because none of these people wanted what I wanted as much as they might have liked me. I put the past way behind me and then I met DP within two weeks. Everything fell into place when I got rid of people in my life that didn’t align with what I wanted. Whether that’s magic or not, I don’t know, but it was strange how it happened.

@PinkPanther57

In theory, that would be possible, but such a spell would have much, much less chance of being successful than a spell with a more viable target.

My view is that magic doesn't work in a vacuum, it works in tandem with the nature of your current circumstance. Also, the stronger the spell is, the more chance it has of working as intended.

So if Brad Pitt/hypothetical billionaire are not already within your circle to some degree - or you don't live in a community/move in circles in which coming across them would be a plausible possibility - then a spell that's directed to get them to fall in love with you is going to be at a disadvantage/much less likely to be effective than a spell that's targeted at an individual you already know personally, or a non-targeted love spell that's not aimed at a specific individual (which means that anyone in your surrounding environment of the appropriate gender/desired qualities is a potential suitor.)

In certain magical traditions, spells are made stronger by what is called "personal concerns" or "personal links" - items related to or directly associated with the individual you're working the spell upon. The more personal the item, the stronger the spell, and more likely to be effective. The strongest personal link would be hair or bodily fluids from the individual, but it's not necessarily easy or possible to get those. Something they've used or touched or a sample of their writing would be a reasonably strong link, but weaker links are acceptable too - photographs of the individual, for example. If a photograph isn't possible, then a piece of paper with the name of the individual written on it can be used as a personal link, but it's significantly weaker than the other alternatives.

I’ve been manifesting Mr Right for the last 40 years

2nd option. Delusion is not a reliable way ahead.

That’s exactly as nonsensical as ‘manifesting’.

Manifesting?

Sometimes I feel I live in a parallel universe where I don't understand much of today's phrases.

There was a thread recently about Love Language -WTF?

It can be though. 'Make yourself appealing', I think they mean putting yourself out there socially and being open, friendly and approachable. If you cower away in a corner with your head down not looking at anyone and not making eye contact no-one will even notice you, let alone want to talk to you.

You can go out socially and have people notice you just by the way you come across and the way you carry yourself.

Is this not a massive infringement of their autonomy and free will? I mean, assuming it works, you are literally forcing them to feel something they otherwise wouldn't?

@RhaenysRocks

Yes, it essentially is - and whether a practitioner engages in what is called 'targeted love magic' depends on where they personally ethically stand on the issue.

There isn't a set of ethical rules to occultism/magic - societies and groups might have a set or morals and an ethos that they aim to abide by, but that would apply to their group specifically. Occultists, witches and pagans decide their ethics for themselves.

I read a great book called Let Love in by Debra Brendt, which has self hypnoses techniques. Should be available secondhand on eBay/ vinted.
It is all about setting clear intention as pp said.

Manifestation is like believing in Horoscopes. Both nonsense.

Most of these are just sorting your life out, focusing on what's good for you and accepting something/one different.

@Fiddlesticks357 did all those people who were killed because of their religious beliefs, or those that died in the great Irish famine, just not prey hard enough? I think that we have enough examples that God/Allah/Yahweh doesn't provide. Religion can bring comfort and for some people answers, but it, once again, gives us the focus etc to make things happen.

The claims of manifestation comes from a privileged position.

Thank you..its really interesting to hear that. I teach ethics and free will is always such a given that its fascinating to hear it considered as sort of optional.

Totally agree.
I didn't realise people did such bizarre stuff.

If somebody fancies you, that's good if it's mutual. If they don't, I can't see any of this making them change their mind.

Manifestation as a woo thing isn't a thing.

Quitting drinking, smoking and sorting your fitness out is manifestation as in you decided to do a thing, and then did the thing. It's just cause and affect. If I decide I want a Mars Bar, then go downstairs to the vending machine and buy a Mars Bar, I haven't manifested it. I've just decided I want a thing and then put steps in place to get it.

The financial one it's likely just a coincidence.

Can you manifest yourself a boyfriend? Probably, in the sense that if you decide you want a boyfriend then you'll probably start putting steps in place to find one. Dressing nicer, making eye contact with men you find attractive, being more active on dating apps. Is that the universe dropping a boyfriend in your lap? No.

You said that all better than I could.

Assuming for a second that this isn't a load of old bollocks, surely by "making" someone fall in love with you, you're removing their ability to consent, thereby condemning them to a lifetime of effective slavery and being sexually abused.

Good job its a load of old bollocks really isn't it!

@VimesandhisCardboardBoots

Yes, it is removing the other person's consent/autonomy.

There are occult practitioners who won't do targeted love magic for that reason. Other occult practitioners will do it. It depends upon the individual practitioner's personal moral stance.

I practice myself, so I don't think it's a load of bollocks, but I accept that the majority of non-occultists feel differently.

But surely it can’t work? ‘Magic’ or not I can’t make Prince William fall in love with me & turn up on my doorstep tonight or ever. It can’t happen.