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BIL cancer and way forward

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SweetSunshineSA · 30/10/2025 06:18

I have name changed for this as I am a long time poster but have never spoken about this part of our lives in detail as its not something we center our lives around but its there nonetheless.

There is a lot of detail to the this (as its a lifetime) and I cant possibly tell the whole story without writing a novel, so please ask questions if you feel they are relevant and excuse me if I dont cover all the information upfront. Also, we are not in the UK.

My DHs brother, my BIL has not had a very productive life as an adult. He hasnt held down a relationship or marriage for longer than two years, is generally a difficult character with strange ideas, he has been financially reckless to the point of almost living on the street and has never looked after his health. My DH wouldnt consider their relationship close but if you had to ask my BIL he would say that they are. Its a strange dynamic of a younger brother being the one who has always looked after the older brother due to his bad decisions and inability to 'grow up'. My BIL would say this out of love but my DH would say it was out of obligation. Neither of their parents are alive anymore so they are each others only immediate blood relations (besides for kids). My BIL has a daughter in her early twenties from a short marriage.

My BIL was diagnosed with a brain lesion a few years ago which was causing seizures, he was on medical leave from work (he was employed by us prior to this, but this is another story) and we discovered that he was living in a flat in town but had gambled away his entire insurance payout and sold all his belongings and was sleeping on the floor. We uplifted him and placed him in a residential home / care environment where got a roof over his head and 3 meals a day at our expense. His health deteriorated and we took him to the doctor and the lesion had turned into a brain tumour (grade 4 aggressive, Im not sure of the pathology). He underwent a resection, they removed the tumour and he had chemo and radiation. He returned to the care facility but is now in frail care as he is not coping with normal day to day life. The tumour itself has caused brain damage and his cognitive function is impaired. His motor skills are getting worse and worse. He is struggling with bowel control. My DH speaks to him once a week on the phone and I get updates from the nurses at the facility. All his care, medical etc are paid for by us at a fairly large expense but we can afford it luckily.

My DH is struggling with the idea that his DBs life is effectively in his hands and he has to make decisions about his care and well-being. Obviously, if the relationship had been close and 'normal' then I think he would feel different. We (my DH) have to now decide whether we take my BIL in for follow up brain scans. We have been told that the tumour will likely reappear in the next few years after the surgery (its been a year now), he has had one follow up scan which was clear. We dont have all the medical info as we havent always been involved in his oncology appointments and have struggled to get doctors to communicate with us when the patient is an adult himself so the messages we have received have been mixed, ie some say they would operate again if it reappeared, others have said they wouldnt.

We have noticed in the last few phone calls and conversations with his carers that his condition seems to have gone downhill again. What do we do? Do we go back to his medical team and have scans so we know what is going on inside his brain? Do we leave it and let a very aggressive cancer take its course? His quality of life is pretty rubbish and I dont see it improving. We have had to tell the care home to not let him out anymore as he is catching taxis and ubers at his free will and its not safe outside of the facility for him My BIL wouldnt be able to understand this conversation if we tried to have it with him.

I feel like Ive left out a whole lot of details which make the question sound quite callous and uncaring. What do we do?

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Otterdrunk · 30/10/2025 17:15

How can LPA’s for Health be set up - does he have caoacity? I think you might have to apply for a Deputyship who can make decisions in his best interests OP as what happens when a person say with dementia has not set up an LPA & no longer has the caoacity to. Not gone through that process myself but is what I understand. This may take the onus of responsibility for his life & major health decisions off your DH. They would be granted access to his medical & health matters - I think so can make informed decisions. I hope I’m not wrong & that this is reserved for Financiak LPA’s. Good luck. You sound like your DH & you have been incredibly generous & supportive of him to date.

AnnaMagnani · 30/10/2025 17:24

Otterdrunk · 30/10/2025 17:15

How can LPA’s for Health be set up - does he have caoacity? I think you might have to apply for a Deputyship who can make decisions in his best interests OP as what happens when a person say with dementia has not set up an LPA & no longer has the caoacity to. Not gone through that process myself but is what I understand. This may take the onus of responsibility for his life & major health decisions off your DH. They would be granted access to his medical & health matters - I think so can make informed decisions. I hope I’m not wrong & that this is reserved for Financiak LPA’s. Good luck. You sound like your DH & you have been incredibly generous & supportive of him to date.

OP would be following the law in South Africa.

However in the UK deputyships do exist for Health but are rare as hen's teeth and are family members, not a professional appointee.

Otterdrunk · 30/10/2025 19:45

@AnnaMagnanioh I didn’t realise. Re Health LPA thanks for clarifying.

Mulledjuice · 30/10/2025 19:53

AnnaMagnani · 30/10/2025 16:25

The OP has posted the tumour type.

OP's sounds ambiguous! I am speaking from experience of a high grade glioma, not GBM

JustCabbaggeLooking · 31/10/2025 23:36

Otterdrunk · 30/10/2025 19:45

@AnnaMagnanioh I didn’t realise. Re Health LPA thanks for clarifying.

LPA and Deputyships are two different things. Health and Welfare is often set up under an LPA as the person has given that permission. Deputyships are obtained when the person doesn't have capacity to grant permissions so H&W are rarely given and most decisions, if there are disagreements between family and medical staff, are referred through the OPG.

Rosscameasdoody · 03/11/2025 18:14

JustCabbaggeLooking · 31/10/2025 23:36

LPA and Deputyships are two different things. Health and Welfare is often set up under an LPA as the person has given that permission. Deputyships are obtained when the person doesn't have capacity to grant permissions so H&W are rarely given and most decisions, if there are disagreements between family and medical staff, are referred through the OPG.

Not my experience. Where health and welfare are concerned, if there is a family member willing to take on the responsibility, the OPG will grant deputyship as the family are best placed to know the relatives wishes. It tends to be financial matters that are referred to the OPG as any deputies have to keep detailed records of what is spent and why, and the accounts are regularly overseen by OPG.

JustCabbaggeLooking · 03/11/2025 19:25

Rosscameasdoody · 03/11/2025 18:14

Not my experience. Where health and welfare are concerned, if there is a family member willing to take on the responsibility, the OPG will grant deputyship as the family are best placed to know the relatives wishes. It tends to be financial matters that are referred to the OPG as any deputies have to keep detailed records of what is spent and why, and the accounts are regularly overseen by OPG.

It is my experience. I am currently Financial Deputy for my adult son and was Deputy for both my mother and FIL.
All Deputyships go through the Court Of Protection first and then are managed by the OPG.
H&W Deputyships are as rare as hen's teeth. ime

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