To not have known this about Naomi Campbell

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Look through the 5 photos!
A 17 year old Virginia is being glared at by Naomi in slude 2.
Look at her with Maxwell!!
Read through the comments section!
Did anyone know about this??

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1oddf0h/naomicampbellwasafrequentguestatjeffrey/

She's not glaring. At all. It is a second caught in time where she glanced in her general direction.

And to be clear I give zero shits about Campbell or any of her cohort and if she did something wrong I am fine with whatever happens to her.

But she is not glaring in that photo.

So - exactly what are you insinuating about the photos?

There was a lot of rumours that she used to procure girls/models for him. Not sure that's illegal, just models and rich men

Yeah this isn't surprising. Naomi has zero morals. She seems evil.

She's a terrible person.
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2024/sep/26/naomi-campbell-banned-from-being-charity-trustee
Everyone knew what Epstein was, just like we know what Elvis/Bowie/Mick Jagger did with 13/14 year old girls. Chrissie Hynde disappointed us all (who grew up with her music) when she excussed pedophilia by victim blaming. But it gets ignored. Watching any ITV true crime drama highlights that women were disposable and exsist to suit men.

Very bemused here, I cannot remotely see how that is a glare, and so what if Naomi was at social events with them, plenty were, what is it you’re trying to insinuate?

Belinda Gates is a decent woman of good moral character.
I can well imagine her disgust.

Talk about trying to make something, out of nothing. The hoards of real monsters here, will never be revealed imo. But hey, why not single out NC, who happened to be looking at something!

Think you're going OTT over this.

This.

These kinds of circles are big networking, grooming events. Everyone there is quietly being moved from wide eyed newbie, to complicit, consumer or victim. You don’t necessarily know exactly what’s going on, but everyone wants something. Proximity to beauty/power/wealth is probably the entry level ‘want’. To feel you are moving up in the world, mixing with the rich and famous.

All hail Melinda Gates for spotting it so fast and getting out.

No I don't.

Don't you remember the 'it' girls of the 90s early 2000s?

Models were routinely hired just to literally hang around and look pretty, it added kudus and social currency to the event. I'm sure seedy things happened to the less well known and connected models, but it's totally of that time for models to have been regularly on the party circuit sometimes at two major clubs in the same night, many of them taking drugs to prevent putting on weight after the booze.

Naomi Campbell is obnoxious, but good things have been said about her along with the bad. Kate Moss has said Naomi looked out for her in her career and many up and coming models have said Naomi has helped and been a mentor to them. None of them have mentioned anything regarding sexual exploitation and Naomi has been around plenty of young women in the industry.

Despite what she has done Ghislaine was the consummate socialite, very very well connected due to her father's legacy. Probably very personable and charismatic. I personally think she was also outwardly beautiful (she rocked that pixie cut and looks lovely with long hair too) We tend to think of evil people as being one dimensional. Ghislaine would probably hug you and take selfies with you at the party and ensure you got a lift home so you'd be safe too...if you were a famous woman. If you were young, without status or wealth then you were nothing and she'd exploit you for her own ends and probably revel in participating or watching your sexual abuse.

There's tons of famous people who were papped with her. Including Piers Morgan, and long list of actors and actresses.

We cannot say just because someone was papped around her or with her that they were complicit in her and Epstein's crimes.

That all said, I do believe people at these events ALL see odd things and overlook them or deliberately shut their eyes. Have you ever been at some of these high end celebrity/social events? Some of them are every bit as pretentious as they are stereotyped to be. I was working at a fashion show as security and later at the after party. I tell you the level of fake is unreal. Cringe worthy levels of insincerity masquerading under the cloak of flattery. I imagine that after a while it must mess with your sense of reality and everyone is a 'friend' and there's this twisted sense of 'hosts etiquette', so you just look away rather than face being locked out of the next essential networking opportunity.

Can you even imagine what it's like to be a billionaire? Neither can I.
They do not live in the same world as us. They cannot find joy from a Sunday lunch down spoons.

They do not have to settle for anything less than what money can buy. They can literally buy people to do with what they want.

Saudi billionaires are known to traffic women into lifelong sexual servitude, poop on them etc.

Being white doesn't preclude you from being a sick man with access to all the funds and all the people your heart desires.

Surely we can do both? Being appalled by Ms Campbell does not preclude one from being appalled by Epstein, Clinton et al

There were plenty of “normal” people who saw and heard everything that went on in Epsteins houses and did nothing. VGs book touches on this. The driver who drove Maxwell to Trumps resort - and other places - purely so she could approach and pick up young teenage girls. The chef who worked on the private island who saw underage girls walking around naked and fed them pizza after they’d been raped by Epstein and Maxwell. And it goes on. So many people, from all walks of life covering it all up, normalising it. VG went back and confronted some of these people years later and they denied they’d seen anything untoward. People are disgusting.

It shows GM and NC in the same room.

Not illegal.

I wonder about Virginia’s parents. Her dad worked for Trump at Mar-a-Lago…did he not see anything before getting his daughter a job there. Where was her mum? Did they not worry when she moved in with GE?
Those that have read the book, is that explained?

Yes it’s a huge part of the book and is talked about many times. Later in the book she reveals Epstein paid her Dad a huge amount of money to basically let her go / not ask questions. Her dad was a paedophile and sexually abused her as a young child as well, along with another man, and her Mum essentially turned a blind eye to it, she basically ran away from home several times and had a terrible childhood. Epstein used this to groom her and so many others - he and Maxwell sought out young girls with abusive backgrounds and disadvantaged upbringings. Her parents essentially left her to it.

Part.of the grooming is that the perpetrator can say, "oh, let's go to Naomi Campbell's birthday party" and the child thinks that they're been given a treat and not abused.

Inviting and spoiling stars, keeping them in orbit and maybe getting dirty on them is all part of the process.

People are seeing what they want to see including the woman everyone is saying looks out of place. Posters who know her and have read her book, as they've said, are coming in already already influenced by that knowledge.

I don't know her and never heard of her. So looking at the picture from a non-biased perspective, she simply looks to be a part of the sea of faces in that picture. She only stands out because she's dressed in light colours where most people around her are in dark clothing and dark-haired. She simply seems to have been caught in motion turning to look at something or someone, with a slightly curious expression on her face. Nothing about her screams "too young to be there/does not fit where she is".

Naomi also seems to have been caught mid action. It doesn't appear as if she's glaring at anyone and was caught doing so. That probably was a -1 second look as her eyes were darting around while speaking. She clearly isn't pointing at the woman in question.

I don't know what that particular picture proves besides the obvious: People hang out with others in their social circle/class. Hangers on/social climbers are always around them. The elite class is made up of very horrible human beings who'll do anything to maintain the status quo.

It says "In a 2019 deposition, Virginia Giuffre alleged that Epstein had forced her to have sex with Campbell at his New York mansion." That's a bit more than going to a party.

Not surprised she hangs around with people like this.
She's not a nice person.

I wonder if OP has a racist motivation for starting this thread. Definitely misogynistic, though I have nothing to admire about NC in terms of known and documented behaviors, nothing other than her physical beauty, I wonder why she in particular has been chosen as person of interest here.

Is she really? As ugly as serial killers or uglier? Child abusers? Someone like Epstein or Maxwell? Very interesting viewpoint there…

Having children is not a human right, and it should never come at the cost of women being reduced to reproductive vessels. There’s nothing altruistic about wealthy people buying babies.

Personally I don’t see this as buying babies any more than I see sperm or egg donation as buying babies, and feel it is down to the individual woman if she wishes to do this or not. I don’t have the huge case of the vapours that you do. Maybe as I know a childless couple who used a surrogate in the USA, utilising a sperm donor and the mother’s eggs. A woman who was throughly vetted by the agency on everything to her mental health, her motivation, and her physical health. The surrogate made a free choice, she was not in poverty or even close to it, she had a very comfortable life. And saw three benefits, she enjoyed being pregnant, enjoyed the money obvs she got paid. and wanted to help childless couples.

I think we all have a different reaction, but using emotive terms doesn’t really help the argument.