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To loose my shit at my GP?

211 replies

Peoplecoveredinfish · 25/10/2025 13:12

I was prescribed testosterone by gynaecologist on 16/9. I have chased this three times, and had no response. I’ve still had no response, but I see from my record that the practice has written to the gynae. They’ve been pretty good about menopause, but this is a shitty misogynist policy.

TLDR: We don’t prescribe testosterone for women because it would be off licence. We prescribe off licence medication all the time, but we won’t prescribe this one, because we aren’t familiar with it and we don’t think women really need it. We think women need counselling for their made up symptoms. Even though we are not specialists and the specialist has asked us to do this, we think we know better.

The actual letter…

We have recently been receiving an increasing number of letters from the menopause clinics requesting us to prescribe testosterone for patients who are menopausal but have an intact uterus and ovaries and feel their menopausal symptoms are not being fully controlled on Oestrogen replacement therapy.
As you are aware, this medication is not licensed for women in the UK, so a clinician can only prescribe it off licence.
While there are many drugs that GPs do prescribe off licence, these are medications that we are familiar with, and there is known evidence to prove their efficacy and safety.
The GMC guidance around Good medical practice clearly states that “14 You must recognise and work within the limits of your competence. 16 In providing clinical care you must: a) prescribe medicine or treatment, including repeat prescriptions, only when you have adequate knowledge of the patient’s health, and are satisfied that the medicine or treatment serve the patient’s needs, b) provide effective treatments based on the best available evidence.
Also “You are responsible for the prescriptions that you sign. You must only prescribe medicine when you have adequate knowledge of your patient’s health. And you must be satisfied that the medicine serves your patient’s need.”
The British Menopause Society states “Randomised clinical trials of testosterone to date have not demonstrated the beneficial effects of testosterone therapy for cognition, mood, energy, and musculoskeletal health. Further better designed studies are required with these health issues as primary outcome measures as some individuals report improvement of these symptoms. Until these data are available, the primary indication for testosterone should therefore be for HSDD following a biopsychosocial approach.”
We are thus unable to continue issuing testosterone prescriptions to our patients whom you have seen in clinic and advise they need testosterone. We expect you as the secondary care specialist in this area to manage these prescriptions and continue to issue and monitor their safety in those patients.
We would kindly request that you avoid telling our patients to contact the surgery for the GP to continue the prescriptions for testosterone. Furthermore, any letters we receive requesting this, will be returned with a TCS letter.

OP posts:
OnlyOnAFriday · 25/10/2025 14:20

Rosscameasdoody · 25/10/2025 14:17

I think this is about funding. My GP refused to fill a prescription for hormone treatment for breast cancer after the hospital prescribed the initial dose. The excuse was that they hadn’t received the paperwork. When I attended a clinic appointment the following week and explained, the consultant showed me the email that had been sent direct to the GP when the initial prescription was issued, asking them to provide from that point on. Sometimes the system treats the patient like a ball being batted backwards and forwards as the go between.

was your drug off licence though?

TalulahJP · 25/10/2025 14:22

Glow Natural wellness in America do it.

And a whole host of other menopause things.

I have some stuff from them. It takes a couple of weeks to come and obviously it’s not cheap as postage has to be factored in, but if they can do it there must be other places that can.

They can do all your hormones tests too. ones that most of our doctors don’t understand.

It’s no dearer than going private here but easier to get a slot. The appointments going private where I am were fully booked for months in advance.

I did the trio test with them and they did a video consult. I thought they were good.

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 25/10/2025 14:28

I don't think anything in the GP's letter indicates that they think that women make up their symptoms. I think what they're expressing is a concern about prescribing off-licence testosterone.

Trallers · 25/10/2025 14:29

That's crap OP, I'm sorry. Sometimes consultants can be terrors for batting things back to the GP that is really their own responsibility to oversee, hence the referral in the first place. This is especially true of prescriptions where the whole point of their specialist care is to have them in charge of a particular treatment regimen for a patient, not asking the clinical without their experience to take responsibility for it. I don't know if this is one of those, but it certainly sounds like it could be.

No point getting cross at the GP personally as they did the right thing and sent you to a knowledgeable gynae, yet it's landed back in their lap. I'm.sure the consultant is on their knees too and whacks it back to the GP because they can no longer juggle all these repeat patients in their clinic without their waiting lists getting even longer. Ultimately it's a overstretched system problem. Maybe you could petition your gynae to set up training for the local GPs so they actually have the up-to-date training to manage this!

SingingOcean · 25/10/2025 14:30

I guess GPs aren't prescribing Viagra then, what with them being generalists and not specialising in men's health.

stichguru · 25/10/2025 14:33

Horrible person
"Losing their shit" at someone is always uneccessary
Especially when that person is working in prescribed guidelines that they can't change.
Even more so when presumably the person is only passing on what they were told by others.

NimbleDreamer · 25/10/2025 14:34

I'm actually with the GP on this one. There is no reason why the specialist can't prescribe it for you, instead they're just fobbing you off and telling you to get it from your GP instead. A lot of secondary care settings do this and I think it is either laziness or a cost saving measure. I was told by ENT to get these specific ear drops from my GP but my GP physically couldn't prescribe them as the system said the drug is only allowed to be prescribed in a specialist setting. All it meant was me having to go back to the clinic to try and get these drops while my ear was just continuing to go untreated. The GP said they are getting more and more requests from secondary care to prescribe things that they either aren't allowed to prescribe or that they are unfamiliar with, yet are expected to prescribe them when the responsibility lies with the prescriber.

oldclock · 25/10/2025 14:34

Rosscameasdoody · 25/10/2025 14:13

This. Due to severely compromised immune system I would be seriously ill if I contracted shingles. My rheumatologist wrote to my GP requesting that they provide the vaccination. Because I was a year under the minimum age, they wouldn’t do it, even though the consultant rang and pointed out that it was for legitimate reasons. They were adamant I wasn’t having it until I asked if I could have it if I paid. £140 later I was vaccinated with no problem. It’s shit, and as a poster upthread pointed out, it’s undoubtedly about money, but I agree, losing your temper and making a scene is likely to get you taken off the GP list.

Edited

Why didn't your consultant do the vaccine and why aren't your cross with them for not doing so?

justasking111 · 25/10/2025 14:34

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 25/10/2025 14:10

Why aren’t GPs adequately trained in a condition that affects 50% of their patients?! This shouldn’t be a specialist area. It’s absolutely bog standard.

Support women through menopause.

I'll tell you why in all the years of their training medical students spend three months on women's health.

chipshopElvis · 25/10/2025 14:35

They are just asking the specialist to prescribe which isn't unreasonable but does make things more difficult for patients.

OnlyOnAFriday · 25/10/2025 14:36

SingingOcean · 25/10/2025 14:30

I guess GPs aren't prescribing Viagra then, what with them being generalists and not specialising in men's health.

Well they probably are because firstly it’s licensed for Erectile dysfunction issues and secondly prescribing it is within the remit of a GP…..afaik they don’t get sent off to a urologist to decide if it’s needed or not.

Now if a bloke had some rare heart issue and needed viagra for that then yes his cardiologist would be expected to prescribe it if it’s not a recognised/licensed drug for that condition.

The battle needs to be getting the nhs to recognise that testosterone should be licensed for menopausal symptoms but if the evidence isn’t there to support it then it won’t happen. I don’t know what evidence there is. If there is some evidence but a reluctance to update national guidelines then that probably needs campaigning on.

justasking111 · 25/10/2025 14:36

SingingOcean · 25/10/2025 14:30

I guess GPs aren't prescribing Viagra then, what with them being generalists and not specialising in men's health.

Viagra is OTC here. Presumed it was everywhere now. GP doesn't prescribe, you buy it

Anyahyacinth · 25/10/2025 14:36

GPs are mini businesses within the NHS (a way to get Drs to consent to the creation of the NHS all those years ago, they were against). Full sympathy if you never voted for a party promising to cut taxes…otherwise these are the things that go with ‘small government’. In the US people aren’t getting cancer treatments or insulin because of cost…we appear to be headed their way

OnlyOnAFriday · 25/10/2025 14:36

justasking111 · 25/10/2025 14:34

I'll tell you why in all the years of their training medical students spend three months on women's health.

Amazed it’s that long to be honest.

rainingsnoring · 25/10/2025 14:37

What do you hope to achieve by 'losing your shit' at a professional who is behaving professionally and in line with their competencies @Peoplecoveredinfish? If you were only prescribed the testosterone by your specialist 5 weeks ago, you should still have some left anyway.

MaurineWayBack · 25/10/2025 14:37

Seeingadistance · 25/10/2025 13:16

The GP’s response seems fair enough to me. If a specialist wants this drug prescribed, then they should do the prescribing, and all monitoring etc as required and/or prudent.

That’s not the NHS works.
And theres an issue with specialist prescribing stuff GPs don’t know, aren’t sure about etc… it happens all the time. It’s not even a case of ‘off label’ prescribing. They can be the same with on label medication that are seen as ‘high risks’ (eg some meds for MH)

The problem is that consultants CANNOT give more than one prescription from the hospital pharmacy. Afterwards, the care is in the hands of the GPs.

Putting patients in the middle of an issue that’s basically a GP/consultant problem is not OK.
As far as I’m concerned, either they read on the subject (they should be able to rather than relying on ‘but we don’t normally do that’) or they trust the specialist/consultant.

Its an issue that’s coming out more and more. And the answer is really not say ‘oh fair enough if GPs don’t want to’

MaurineWayBack · 25/10/2025 14:38

rainingsnoring · 25/10/2025 14:37

What do you hope to achieve by 'losing your shit' at a professional who is behaving professionally and in line with their competencies @Peoplecoveredinfish? If you were only prescribed the testosterone by your specialist 5 weeks ago, you should still have some left anyway.

Nope. Prescription should be for one month, no more.

justasking111 · 25/10/2025 14:38

Anyahyacinth · 25/10/2025 14:36

GPs are mini businesses within the NHS (a way to get Drs to consent to the creation of the NHS all those years ago, they were against). Full sympathy if you never voted for a party promising to cut taxes…otherwise these are the things that go with ‘small government’. In the US people aren’t getting cancer treatments or insulin because of cost…we appear to be headed their way

My GP baulked at my eye drops for glaucoma because of the cost. Took a nudge from the consultant for them to agree.

rainingsnoring · 25/10/2025 14:39

MaurineWayBack · 25/10/2025 14:38

Nope. Prescription should be for one month, no more.

Who told you that? Consultants can continue to prescribe items for their patients. It happens with a lot of medications.

MaurineWayBack · 25/10/2025 14:40

oldclock · 25/10/2025 14:34

Why didn't your consultant do the vaccine and why aren't your cross with them for not doing so?

Because consultants aren’t allowed to do many things. Incl it seems giving vaccination.
It’s all down to the division of work between GPs and consultants.

OnlyOnAFriday · 25/10/2025 14:41

MaurineWayBack · 25/10/2025 14:38

Nope. Prescription should be for one month, no more.

My consultant prescribed for ten years!

justasking111 · 25/10/2025 14:41

My estriol cream everyone on Mumsnet agreed I needed took a year to get. They threw all sorts of cheaper solutions at me. When I checked online to buy. It's £26 a tube. I understood then.

AInightingale · 25/10/2025 14:41

Yet they'll happily prescribe synthetic progesterone to countless women, despite the evidence that it has been linked to elevated breast cancer risk in younger menopausal women. Crazy.

ReallyShortAttentionSpa · 25/10/2025 14:41

OP just say you’re transitioning to be a man and they will fall over themselves to affirm your new gender.