Motability cars - should they be UK made?

[Pandersmum]

Motability cars are currently in the news with suggestions VAT will be added. I realise they are a lifetime to some and a perk to others. They are a huge annual cost to the tax payer.

AIBU to think that all motability car choice should be limited to those manufactured in the UK? This would support British manufacturing worker jobs and increase UK business tax revenue whilst still providing cars for those who need them?

Well 15 years ago - yes this did happen. Always the same story - needed it to take granny to hospital. Not sure if requirements have changed since then. But certainly there was a huge difference in vehicle requirements between the genuine claimants and the non genuine. Thing is - I actually support the motability scheme for the people who need it - no need to keep trying to pull apart what I’m saying is there. Unless you have worked in a car dealership and had experience of the different types of people who have come in and their reasons for needing the car, then you cannot possibly comment can you.

Yeah course.it did 🤣🤣😂

I think this is a great idea and should be rolled out further. If a person is getting any kind of benefit- UC/child benefit/pension, they should only be permitted to buy products manufactured/grown in the UK. They should have some kind of tattoo, just a small one, so that when they stop claiming it won't cost much to be removed.

Of course you can comment when you know how the Motability scheme works and can say without a doubt that even 15 years ago, 2 seater sports cars were not available.

The difference is the money we pay now is ploughed back into the scheme for the benefit of all its members, rather than shareholders.

Well, some of the money. Senior management do okay.

@Cantbleedingcope
But no one can just walk into a car dealership and buy a car, using the Motability scheme with someone else’s award.
The scheme - as someone upthread complained about - involves paying the insurance on that car.
When I applied to Motability the contract had to be checked with medical records supplied as well as DLA award and the contract to swap DLA was made between Motability and the DWP. Allied Mobility then supplied the WAV.
Admittedly I don’t know if there’s much option to look at cars of huge variation but the context of the young people using granny’s award (which one I wonder) to o secure funding either had GRANNY as the fraud and the card dealership as lunatics they can’t distinguish an older woman from two young men

"They don’t need to be £30k cars for a start."

You won't get much change out of 30k for any car that fits in 5 adults and an adult wheelchair.

My DH has been leasing Motability cars for 20 years.

No-one has to give a reason to the dealer for leasing the car. No dealer will ever ask this. So why would it even be mentioned that he car is to take granny to hospital?

No-one can lease a car on behalf of anyone else.

"Granny"is more likely to get AA than DLA/ PIP unless they became disabled before retirement age.

I could go on. Your story is full of holes. Writing this sort of rubbish is despicable and ableist.

Stop lying.

It is maddening that MNHQ allows this sort of shit to be posted.

I just looked at the site. Not choosing any filters eg seat number, transmission type, fuel type, looking at no down payment, there are 41 cars to choose from. So not the massive free for all!!

I believe UK manufactured cars are Toyota, Nissan, Vauxhall, Mini, Jaguar Land Rover plus other prestige marques. Quite a range

source @Pandersmum ?

Well that's it you need proof admittedly we didn't take my son with us when we signed for and later picked up.l his mobility car ,but I had proof I'm his appointee and I had to take proof that he gets HRM my DH also had to bring his driving licence as the named driver and only certain makes and models are available certainly no sporty little numbers

Ford aren't manufactured in the UK. As said, neither are some of the Vauxhall models that are good for carrying wheelchairs and oxygen etc. My DP decided to buy his Ford Eco Sport outright (with his private critical illness payment), they are ideal because they are slightly higher and the boot opens out sidewards, many disabled people struggle to close boots. But they aren't made in the UK.

Overthemhills never mentioned British made

I mentioned higher range value of cars

not everyone who gets mobility cars is in need of a car that needs to be adapted for their needs

this is where PIP is problematic the mh issues and the physical needs issues sometimes they cross over

and other times they do not but people know how to work the system and this is where they are trying to become tougher but it’s impacting many who are not playing the system

Just a heads up

@Pandersmum is all over mumsnet talking about PIP and benefits cuts just as you’d expect from an Op who starts this kind of thread

My point was about higher range value of cars that are on the scheme

i personally do no know what cars are and are not manufactured in the UK

I know higher range of value cars are available on the scheme and available to people who do not need it to be adapted to them. How can the be of course it’s open to being exploited it’s a ridiculous situation

I’m still hoping that there’s some good intentions behind people who would prefer Motability (a charity) didn’t exist.
I can’t imagine how it would be well-intentioned though.
As it’s a SCHEME (how it operates) not a car manufacturer or stockist ie much like a bank if you like - why that is objectionable.
I expect the resentment that people have are from “stories” (using that loosely) about people with acne (!) getting free cars and so on.
The issue with Joe Acne is actually a problem with the DWP then as it’s the DWP that awards the qualifying benefits..
And/or the medical professionals who can’t decipher if conditions are debilitating in an individual’s life.
And once again for those at the back - should everyone on universal credit be monitored on their legitimate use of the funds they receive. Should they be forced to have vouchers to spend on specifically British grown food or pay rent to only British landlords or buy British cars or British clothes

@HRTQueen
Can you explain how the scheme is open to abuse. It isn’t at all obvious - please explain.

But the only people who are going to be paying the higher advance payments for those cars are those who can afford them because it isn't covered from PIP or DLA money.

So why does it matter?

Ah. Thank you. Good to know.

@Rogerthat14
That really doesn’t surprise me - they went very quickly to talking about benefits for disabled people and moved on from having an issue with a charity scheme that enables people to use it to lease cars at an (almost) affordable rate. It’s actually a very expensive scheme for the lease holder but there a few choices when you need a WAV.

Google

That’s not a source

Yes
I wasn’t the least bit surprised when I saw posting history