Motability cars - should they be UK made?

[Pandersmum]

Motability cars are currently in the news with suggestions VAT will be added. I realise they are a lifetime to some and a perk to others. They are a huge annual cost to the tax payer.

AIBU to think that all motability car choice should be limited to those manufactured in the UK? This would support British manufacturing worker jobs and increase UK business tax revenue whilst still providing cars for those who need them?

Such unbelievable shite some people come out with - young lads buying sports cars with their grandmothers’s PIP 🤣🤣🤣

Have you seen how much cars cost now?

and they still only get £77.05 a week. Look at what you can lease (with insurance and maintenance) for that

To be specific - sports models of certain vehicle - think VW Scirocco. Very popular in the day. Not suitable for elderly though. You could get the more powerful engine.

It makes a change from PIP recipients climbing Everest I suppose.

Yes they should

What is wrong with having a Vauxhall or Ford (as examples of lower to mid range cars)

why are larger higher range BMW’s and Mercedes even on the list

and there is plenty of PIP fraud what there is also is people who are desperately needing the extra support not quite reaching the threshold which they absolutely should do and having to fight for it

the PIP system and benefits in general is a mess

we have 1 in 4 young adult’s on long term sick with a huge increase in PIP applications/payments of course something is very wrong

Exactly which make and model were you referring to, though? And did you repirt these abuses to Motability?

Because it enables disabled people to do stuff like.

go to work so they can pay tax

Cut and paste from Motability site:
re WAVs

Get to know the cost
WAVWheelchair Accessible Vehicles tend to cost more than standard cars because there are different stages and companies involved in getting the conversion right for you. And because there are fewer WAVWheelchair Accessible Vehicles on the road than standard cars, suppliers cannot benefit from mass production.
Advance Payments
You’ll need to pay an Advance Payment at the start of your lease to make up the difference between your allowance payments and what the lease costs.
If you need a WAVWheelchair Accessible Vehicle but cannot afford the Advance Payment, Motability Foundation might be able to give you a grant, depending on your circumstances.

Why don't we just go back to these eh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invacar

Just like in the good old days with added prejudice and stigma.

Actually I didn’t work on the sales side so no commission at all. But what I will say is I know for a fact that motability don’t act on reports of fraud either.

Not a sports car. Literally a golf / a3 / beetle / q3 in a different shell.

still the recipient would only have got the monthly payment, if it cost more on lease, which actually, it may not have as the residuals were rock solid on them. If it cost more than their allowance, than the recipient would have paid the shortfall.

when I did the Motability course, we were often advised to make sure people try three door cars because the doors opened wider meaning access was easier.

@FallingIntoAutumn
Well that’s Motability’s issue!They buy the cars and lease them (at the rate of the relevant benefits) until they take them back and SELL them again. Are you worried about the charity losing out because they are sitting on £4billion profits

The options for drivers under 25 are limited.

I did see them take action on fraud and against people who trashed the car

This is hilarious ,that you even think it's possible for a young man together a sports car mobility car in their grandparents name 🤣🤣🤣

What’s their problem?
I’m confused

having rock solid residuals? That’s a bonus for Motability and the PIP recipient. Like any lease deal it means your monthly cost is less as it will be worth more at the end.

Do people think the taxpayers are paying for Motability to exist…??
I don’t mean for an individual to lease a car (as that’s them spending their benefits given for mobility difficulties plus adding additional money to make advances payments when necessary).
Does no-one understand how a charity operates?

My dad had motability, he lost part of his DLA to fund it. He worked for. The age of 15 and paid into the system until he developed MS.it it free you lose part of your benefits to have it. There is a basic range that you can find completely within and extra fee, you need to pay extra for anything outwith that range and you still pay for fuel. As it’s a lease scheme though they do service and insure it.

Apparently not. They think it’s all tax payers money and anyone can ring up and get a free car

@FallingIntoAutumn
Thatd my point - why is it the leaders issue if the charity receives just £77 a week per car. The charity has set itself up to operate as it does and is profiting from it.

sorry lease holder not leader

I have a large Mercedes because it's a WAV and big enough not only for my son's wheelchair but all the other things we often need to have in the car due to his disability.

My son would receive high rate mobility and it would be the exact same amount either in my bank or going towards a motability car no matter if it's a Ford or a Mercedes. I paid the advance payment from my own money.

But you still could have reported abuse of the scheme.

What exactly was your role if you didn't work on the sales side? You said you "loved helping these people" and you were brought to tears etc.

There is nothing UK made that meets my son's needs.

@HRTQueen
If Allied Mobility stocks a British made WAV that I can lease from them via the Motability scheme -fan-fucking-tastic.
I’ve no idea how the government views securing contracts with independent charities to benefit certain car manufacturers however. But it’s hardly prime capitalism at work..