Motability cars - should they be UK made?

[Pandersmum]

Motability cars are currently in the news with suggestions VAT will be added. I realise they are a lifetime to some and a perk to others. They are a huge annual cost to the tax payer.

AIBU to think that all motability car choice should be limited to those manufactured in the UK? This would support British manufacturing worker jobs and increase UK business tax revenue whilst still providing cars for those who need them?

Some people who use Motability cars are also working people but wouldn't be able to get to work without their cars.

But even if you pay the advance the actual lease of the car is still funded by the government.... that's what people try and say. An advance is just that an advance that has been saved, so probably not that much in relation to the value of a new car. But the monthly payments are done through the mobility component = all taxpayers.
That's my point, from a financial perspective.

But they're not costing the government any more money than those of us on enhanced mobility who receive the money into our accounts and use it in a different way

What do you suggest we do about the benefits bill then? Keep spraying money around like there’s no tomorrow? There is no more money. I’m so sick of being forced to pay ever increasing taxes.

Overhaul it so that 70% don't have to go to tribunal and win? It shouldn't be too hard to get the majority of decisions right the first time

And stop assessing people like me who were born with incurable disabilities

Are they?
Think about it, raising costs everywhere... food & housing are at the forefront.

Have you checked out the job market lately? My home town it's NMW warehouse jobs... that doesn't leave much £££ for improvement...

As I said in my original post, there is an moral aspect and responsibility towards our disabled people. But try and make someone understand this who is living from hand to mouth. Especially when there are more tax raises on the horizon.

and that money is going to the person, car or no car so what difference does it make if it's a car?

Of course not, but it's the existence of the mobility component and that it is enough £££ to fund a car if someone wishes to do so.

Taking Motability cars away isn't going to reduce the benefits bill since the mobility component would still go to the person anyway. Unless you completely take away the mobility part of disability benefits and well, surely that would just end up with more people out of work and a bigger benefits bill?

I don't think the answer is to take away money from some of the most vulnerable people in society.

The difference is that there is a choice of how to spend the money given... and it is about the amount of £ given which enables someone to get a brand new car.

They still have more choices. They can move for work, requalify, work more hours. For disabled people like my son, they can’t do any of this. They are stuck in the same situation for life.

Deal with the benefit bill by stop wasting money denying people PIP then having it go to appeal. Get the money owed by cooperations.

Which you have to give back after 3 or 5 years and then find the money to pay a new advanced payment for the next car.

Your assuming the.disabled person and their is living in luxury, often that's not the case my family also lives month to month and we survive on my Dh just above minimum wage, UC carers allowance and my sons DLA ,yes we have a nice mobility car for my son but I would swap that in a heartbeat for my Ron nor to be disabled.

It was just bantz

You can't report imaginary happenings.

My son’s Motability vehicle gets swapped soon. It doesn’t need any special modifications because his issues are learning disability not physical disability. Still I guess it allows folk buying his old car second hand to froth at the knickers about able bodied people being given new cars.

This. I don't understand why there is not any outrage from all of these people about the assessment process, and the colossal waste of money, they cost, in appeals. Why on Earth are people having to go through the process every few years, when they have conditions that will never improve, or be 'cured'.

I thought that was one of the changes that people who have life long conditions will no longer have to be reassessed. I hope it is as it’s very stressful

It’s a very poor how assessments are managed

What should we do regarding the disabled who'd die without support?

I suggest you look at the £895 billion, the Bank of England has used for quantitative easing since 2008/9:

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/158/treasury-committee/news/199797/bank-of-england-has-taken-a-leap-in-the-dark-on-quantitative-tightening-treasury-committee-concludes/

The Parliamentary Committee has commented that the Bank of England has used a vast amount of taxpayers money, without any regard to value for money.

The amount spent on PIP higher rate mobility pales into insignificance!

So you want to increase unemployment? How do you think that will decrease taxation?

Nope, I am just highlighting the fact that even able bodied people can be trapped in jobs and locations with little or no financial help from the government.

I was a horrible shameless benefits basher. Then I read and actually saw how insignificant PIP is on the total UK budget. It's around 2% of total expenditure. It'll barely make a dent. Other places you can cut.

I don't understand why there is not any outrage from all of these people about the assessment process, and the colossal waste of money, they cost, in appeals.

If there was, would you get to hear of it ?

Well that rather solves the problem doesn't it ? I refer you again to poster from a history less than a century ago which still has living survivors.