AIBU to think this BBC headline is misleadingre Andrew Windsor ? ?

[Ukisgaslit]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgw31y75ywt

Andrew has not given up anything .
His own ( I doubt the wrote it ) statement says he will not use his ‘titles’ .He still has them

Charles and William dare not touch Andrew in case Andrew reveals all about the rest of them - plus they no doubt see nothing wrong- what’s another used and abused peasant to them ?
But another woman linked to the Windsors has died, Virginia Giuffre, and her book is released next week . So the Windsors need to throw a bone to the public and make it look like they have done something . They have done precisely nothing .
It’s hot air .

Is the BBC helping to prop up the Windsor grift ? The article does say Andrew doesn’t ‘use’ his HRH - but he still has it . So they must know this nonsense re ‘giving up’ a title is not the whole story . Why not make it clear to the reader ?

I completely agree with you @Ukisgaslit. This is to make Charles and William look good, and decisive. As if. The royal family look after their own. I notice the queen Elizabeth is now being blamed for Andrew's behaviour. Handy now she's dead.
Nothing has changed, he's still a prince living in luxury.

Apparently she was still using "dutchess" but she can't now. She was using it to impress people and help make money.

They are both pathetic.

It never seemed to hold people back in the company I work for.

Ukisgaslit you mean he hasn’t had his title Duke of York legally removed? You’re right about that it would need to be done through parliament.

Precisely. I don't see what's misleading about it.

Yes I realise that re Diana and we were told Diana agreed to have the HRH removed .
I don’t know whether she did or didn’t but I do know that when the Windsors lips are moving , they are lying

I am sure he didn't give the titles up willingly and I believe the pressure came from William. The BBC are just reporting facts; what was said in Andrew's announcement - they aren't going to start making up scenarios to please the public. I certainly wouldn't be losing sleep over it.

@ilovesooty

The headline says Andrew is ‘stripped ‘ of his Duke of York title

He isn’t . He still has it . He just says he won’t ’use ‘ it

That is why I think the headline is misleading

It’s a huge embarrassment for Andrew but in reality it changes nothing! He is still Prince Andrew and always will be.

He is obviously a wrong un but I think he is being used as a scapegoat to protect others who were Epsteins friends - cloak and daggers but not within the royal family!!

prince Andrew will still have his family money and home but will be a public pariah! I think the letter Sarah Ferguson wrote, again was leaked for ill intent! If the person had been a good friend to them (without the repulsiveness/ evil) she can write a letter to him saying he had been a good friend. Why was it released many years later?

not usually one for conspiracy theories but seem weird just one prince is the main target instead of many, many very wealthy and powerful men.

I disagree

Beneath the article in the link you’ll see another article . In it a victim of Andrew’s close friend Epstein expresses her pleasure at hearing Andrew is ‘stripped ‘ of his title

Except he hasn’t been.
That’s why it matters

No, it’s not been legally removed. His statement says he’s agreed not to use it. I’m not sure that it’s practically any different to Harry and Meghan agreeing not to use their HRH.

Too little too late.

@itispersonal

I agree with you re other men - who wouldn’t?

Do we have their names ?
Have they lied on camera only to have their lies revealed by their own hand ?
Are we lauding and paying for these other men ?

The Windsors have done nothing . It’s a sop that they hope will fool the stupid before more revelations in V G book.

Oh and don’t doubt that Andrew is one of many Windsor men ( and women - who knows ) up to their necks in wrongdoing . Yet nothing is done - because ‘royal’

Did I just read that Philip was confirmed to have had an affair with Christine Keeler in the 60s - you know the scandal that involved a Russian spy and which people were told was all lies re Philip ? We were sold the great love story re Philip and Elizabeth- never mind the security issues. I see Andrew has carried on that tradition

Diana voluntarily gave up HRH

But to all intents and purposes he has been, the only thing missing is the legislation to prevent it formally which isn’t necessary and would be a complete waste of taxpayers money.

He has been told by Charles (more likely William) that he cannot and must not use them. Therefore he has been stripped of the ability to use them.

Andrew and Sarah will no doubt be gutted, serves the pair of them right.

He is not plain old Andrew Windsor though, he is a blood Prince and entitled to use the title.

@MrJollyLivesNextDoor

Im sorry but intents and purposes are not the truth
Readers clearly think Andrew has been ‘stripped ‘ of his titles ! He hasn’t been
Please can the media make this clear .

That is my point

Never mind us - an Epstein victim is pleased because she thinks action has been taken ! It hasn’t been - it’s more Windsor lies and PR bullshit

And the only action the Windsors need to take is to stop protecting Andrew and allow police questioning .

But of course they won’t .

@MrJollyLivesNextDoor

And btw - you are inventing scenarios . We have no idea if Charles or William had anything to do with this at all .
William was happy enough to drive him about etc .Willaim does next to nothing in any case .
Charles has done nothing for all we know - maybe he has even been arguing against even this weak move / smoke and mirrors

All we know is a statement was put out saying Andrew will not ‘use’ one of his titles .
He still has his title

Thank you .

Yes I’ve noticed that once dead , former ‘royals’ can be happily thrown under the bus / truth revealed .

He’s keeping all his money & privileges & I bet he still makes the servants call him HRH. You are right OP, this is a bone thrown to the masses.

They are all a pretty grim lot - I don’t blame H&M for getting the hell out (though probably cut from the same cloth). I suspect the reality of that fucked up family is far worse than we’ll ever be allowed to know.

I agree with every word you have written there

I do think the media has questions to answer here .
Headlines with ‘Andrew stripped of titles ‘ are misleading , whether deliberately so or not

We now see an Epstein victim believes strong action has been taken against Andrew and that is just not the case . It is a disgrace that she is deceived in this way . Has the truth of the situation been clarified to her ? It needs to be
The headlines should say ‘ Andrew agrees not to use title that he still holds ‘
Not quite the same impact tho is there ?

That’s what has annoyed me . A campaigner for victims has been misled - just as the Windsors hoped

To be fair they also have to abide by ‘protocol. Parliament, the cabinet, courtiers etc will all be trying to protest the ‘constitution’ and the Monarchy.

This cretinous creature has been protected (probably by his Mother) for his entire overly privileged life and as the Queen isn’t around to do it now, his behaviour has come back to haunt him.

Personally, I would like to see him exiled to another country along with his ex wife. He will be financially able to support himself on the money left to him by the Queen

Protocol is made up bullshit used and abused as and when it helps the royals

As for the cabinet who knows what they think?

I doubt they’d fight for Andrew . Though I do remember Angela Raynor expressing something re the royals and she was slapped down ( I need to check that )

The constitution argument is more obfuscation and derailment . They got rid of the nazi king fast when it suited them

This was what I remembered re Angela Raynor expressing something:

It’s from the Evening standard

‘Angela Rayner called Prince Andrew a ‘nonce’ and tried to block him from standing in for King Charles, book claims
The deputy prime minister reportedly fought a behind-the-scenes battle to curb the Duke of York’s influence’

Thank you Angela