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To stick up for my friends daughters in blended family situations?

42 replies

SteveTheDog · 16/10/2025 14:37

Inspired after reading another thread about OPs niece refusing to go to a wedding if her dads girlfriends daughter was attending.

I have a friend currently going through a similar situation and it led to a bit of a heated discussion between us.

My male friend Chris was with his wife Laura for 20 years and married 15.
They have two children who are 16 and 14 both girls.
Sadly the relationship broke down and they agreed to separate 2 years ago, Laura still loved Chris but they had started arguing constantly and originally it was supposed to be a temporary situation but then Chris met Sophie through work 7 months later.

Chris and Laura are both 42, Sophie is 30 with a daughter of 12, Bella.
Bella has never met her dad and Sophie raised her completely alone.

Chris insisted for a long time that he and Sophie were just friends but eventually admitted they had started seeing each other and they moved in together just over a year ago.

Chris moved into Sophie’s small 3 bed house meaning there isn’t much space. Bella has her own reasonable sized room but his daughters now have to share a box room with bunk beds. Before Chris moved in with Sophie he had a large 3 bed flat with both girls having their own rooms when they stayed at his house.

Laura also has a boyfriend who has kids, a boy and a girl of 5 and 7 but she hadn’t introduced them to her girls.

Now Chris’s daughters hate visiting him, they don’t get on with Bella who winds them up constantly but Sophie refuses not to believe it, she comes across as a sweet girl but I do believe she’s said some of the things that the girls have accused her of. She also goes into their room and helps herself to their possessions, has accidentally “lost” or “broken” things and is very possessive over Chris. If his daughters try to talk to him or have any of his attention then Bella find a reason so the focus is on her.

I am still friends with Laura as well so I hear things from her and I know Laura has tried hard to encourage good relations between everyone for the sake of of the kids and tried to encourage them to get on with Bella so I think this is likely to be true. I know she doesn’t agree with how Chris is trying to force the situation but never says anything negative to her daughters or shows how painful this must have been for her especially seeing her daughters unhappy.

Chris is consistently trying to push all the kids together and doesn’t seem to spend any time alone with his girls, he invites Bella and Sophie to all extended family events and refuses to go if they don’t.
Recently there has been a similar situation to the thread I referenced with the wedding where his girls don’t want Bella and Sophie to go and have refused to go this time if they are invited.

There is a family bonfire night get together that’s a tradition with fireworks, a bonfire, food and drinks and Laura was invited and attended after she had split with Chris and was invited this year.

I know Laura isn’t planning on going and suggested to Chris that he just go on his own with their daughters as the rest of the family would prefer that as well.

This has caused a huge row and Chris asked me my opinion, he said Sophie is putting a huge amount of pressure on him to be invited and he doesn’t want to upset her.

I gave him some home truths saying he was trying too hard to force the blended family and needed to slow things down. I said he needed to spend time alone with his daughters and show them they matter and I thought a good way of showing this would be to go to the bonfire party alone with them. He is trying to hard to keep Sophie happy and part of this seems to be being a father to Bella, it’s not fair on his own daughters and if a woman was doing this she’d be accused of putting dick before her kids and slated for it.

I read the other thread to him as an example of what happens when kids resent blended family situations.

Chris said as most of the comments were saying that the nieces in the OP were unkind and bullies that this actually proved that Sophie and Bella should be invited to the family party and his daughters should be more accepting.

I just wanted some opinions and I can maybe show him the thread later. I also thought it’d be interesting to see if the people who were adamant the girls were mean unpleasant bullies in the previous OP would have thought the same now they have heard the other side of a similar story and realise it’s not as black and white.

I have name changed for this and I have no connection with the previous thread. I just felt a bit annoyed for the girls being called bullies, bitches and brats knowing it’s not ever that simple when kids are forced into living or family situations with people they didn’t choose or even like and watching their father raise another child full time.

OP posts:
Rhubarbandgooseburycrumble · 16/10/2025 14:43

I agree with you. Adults forcing their crap onto kids with no thought yo how it affects them.

He needs to start putting his children first.

Diarygirlqueen · 16/10/2025 14:45

He needs to put his kids first, this is becoming far too bloody common.

And hes a dick for moving on while his wife thought they could work it out.

WatchingTheDetective · 16/10/2025 14:46

What a shit father he is, moving in with another woman when there isn't room for his children. And no, two girls sharing a box room when they previously had their own space is not OK.

Children need to spend time alone with their parents, especially after a divorce. Why would they want to spend time with his girlfriend and her daughter?

INeedAnotherAlibi · 16/10/2025 14:49

Similar situation with DD and her Dad. She’s only 12. She’s not seeing him any more because essentially he put the new woman and her kids in front of her. Not only that but he expects her to apologise!
I think Laura needs to step back from joint interactions. Sometimes this can work if everyone is civil but it doesn’t sound like this is.

StewkeyBlue · 16/10/2025 14:50

Chris is being a really shit Dad.

Utterly selfish and following his dick.

He will lose his relationship with his DDs.

They are of an age to start refusing to spend time with him at all.

Poor girls.

outerspacepotato · 16/10/2025 14:51

Chris, like the shitbag in the other thread, only has his mind on the woman he's currently having sex with and the child or children that go along with her.

There is a ton of bullying that goes on between step siblings. He's ignoring it so he can keep on with his life and not have to do hard things, like be a present, caring parent to his bio kids. He's fucking up his kids. He knows it. He doesn't really care.

I'd cool the friendship if it was me but I'm not a fan of shitty parents who put themselves ahead of their kids.

Whyherewego · 16/10/2025 14:55

16 and 14 year olds dont want to share rooms for starters. Especially if they dont have to ie they have separate rooms at mum's house. So Chris is BU in expecting his daughters to embrace staying over when they are always going to feel like spare parts. He should also have dealt with the suggestions to breakages or Bella accessing their room without question. Put a lock on it. They need to feel listened to. And even if Bella did it by accident or whatever, the lock could have gone on.

He's just not listening to his girls. Doesn't matter what we say, they will vote with their feet. And are voting with their feet. He can't force them to do stuff so he needs to listen

BreadInCaptivity · 16/10/2025 15:04

When Chris moved in with Sophie it’s pretty clear he didn’t consider the move from his children’s perspective.

The current outcome was entirely predictable.

Forced teaming of children in blended families is a sure fire way to ensure all the children involved have good reason to feel resentful and refuse to co-operate.

Chris needs to carve time out for his children without Sophie and Bella. Sophie needs to respect that his children should be able to have time alone with their father.

Chris should not have moved in with Sophie when there was clearly not room to accommodate his children without them squished into a box room feeling like second class afterthoughts.

Bella needs her mother to enforce boundaries around the possessions of others and their spaces.

Chris needs to stop the ridiculous narrative in his head that his children should eat a shit sandwich of crappy living arrangements and bullying from his partner’s child with a middle of parental apathy because it suits him to blame his children rather than look in the mirror.

BreadInCaptivity · 16/10/2025 15:08

BreadInCaptivity · 16/10/2025 15:04

When Chris moved in with Sophie it’s pretty clear he didn’t consider the move from his children’s perspective.

The current outcome was entirely predictable.

Forced teaming of children in blended families is a sure fire way to ensure all the children involved have good reason to feel resentful and refuse to co-operate.

Chris needs to carve time out for his children without Sophie and Bella. Sophie needs to respect that his children should be able to have time alone with their father.

Chris should not have moved in with Sophie when there was clearly not room to accommodate his children without them squished into a box room feeling like second class afterthoughts.

Bella needs her mother to enforce boundaries around the possessions of others and their spaces.

Chris needs to stop the ridiculous narrative in his head that his children should eat a shit sandwich of crappy living arrangements and bullying from his partner’s child with a middle of parental apathy because it suits him to blame his children rather than look in the mirror.

I’m a SM btw so if you’re reading this Chris don’t bin off my comment by suggesting I have an anti blended family agenda.

I just have an anti shitty parent one.

GreatSnake · 16/10/2025 15:11

Chris has let down his own kids with the housing situation. I’m guessing they’re there every other weekend or so though, so Sophie doesn’t want to disrupt her home and Bella for what she sees as occasional guests?

Chris IBU.
Sophie INBU. If Chris wants to move in and play dad to Bella, he needs to include her in family events.

RandomGeocache · 16/10/2025 15:17

How long before Sophie gets pregnant and makes things even worse?

It is not the older girls’ fault that Bella does not see her dad and it is totally outrageous that Chris expects everyone else to make up for that.

Benjithedog · 16/10/2025 15:18

Chris wants to do what’s best for Chris and will
disregard anyone else’s opinion (even his daughters) if it affects his life. Listen up Chris. YOUR daughters are not asking for a kidney. They want to spend time with you, just you. It’s not hard to figure it out, just get on with it and stop dicking about .

CharlieEffie · 16/10/2025 15:18

Chris is literally showing his daughters that they don't matter/ mean less than his new girlfriends kid. First by moving into a house he knew didn't have enough space for them (put a lock on their door for when they arent there. Bella shouldn't be going into their space/touching their things. Also you think it would be simple logic but clearly he needs it spelled out to him. He is with sophie and bella 100% of the time. When he is has HIS daughters he should be ensuring quality time with just them away from this new family set up. There is no point pushing the blended family if your not also going to prioritise time with them, they will just resent him and his new family

OhCobblers · 16/10/2025 15:20

outerspacepotato · 16/10/2025 14:51

Chris, like the shitbag in the other thread, only has his mind on the woman he's currently having sex with and the child or children that go along with her.

There is a ton of bullying that goes on between step siblings. He's ignoring it so he can keep on with his life and not have to do hard things, like be a present, caring parent to his bio kids. He's fucking up his kids. He knows it. He doesn't really care.

I'd cool the friendship if it was me but I'm not a fan of shitty parents who put themselves ahead of their kids.

This is everything I was going to say. Please do show “Chris” and hopefully he might see what a selfish dickhead he is.
The amount of threads on MN I’ve read over the years where blended families have occurred and generally never been in the best interest of the kids concerned, beggars belief.

Mizztikle · 16/10/2025 15:22

he treating his children like step children, they're forced to stay somewhere they're not wanted and don't want to be.
Having to share their dad with strangers if they want to spend time with him,
I don't think he's actually thought abought what they may need or how this situation actually affects them.

SteveTheDog · 16/10/2025 15:32

INeedAnotherAlibi · 16/10/2025 14:49

Similar situation with DD and her Dad. She’s only 12. She’s not seeing him any more because essentially he put the new woman and her kids in front of her. Not only that but he expects her to apologise!
I think Laura needs to step back from joint interactions. Sometimes this can work if everyone is civil but it doesn’t sound like this is.

It’s such a shame that it’s the kids that suffer from the choices made by adults.

I’m not saying that people should never have a relationship if their first marriage or relationship breaks down but there are different ways of handling things.

I know a couple of people with successful blended families where the kids get on but they weren’t forced together quickly and they all have their own bedrooms or spaces and feel listened to.
I know other people who have had to wait until their kids got older before moving in together but were happy to prioritise their kids.

My friends daughter despised her partners daughter when they first got together, both girls were in the same year at school and had never liked each other.
My friend saw her DP when her daughter was at her dad’s for a few years then more often as they got older but still kept both girls apart. She has been together with her DP 12 years now and the girls are civil to each other but it would have been a disaster if they had ever lived together.
My friend also desperately wanted more children but waited so long to make sure her daughter never felt pushed out that she is unable to have any more, she said it was a price worth paying.

The most common error (in my opinion) is trying to pretend everything is perfect because it’s easier that way and not acknowledging when kids are struggling.

I have said to Chris that it’s his own fault if his kids stop talking to him in future which is harsh but I just felt he needed warning before he becomes one of those men who is confused why his adult kids want nothing to do with him.

OP posts:
SteveTheDog · 16/10/2025 15:35

CharlieEffie · 16/10/2025 15:18

Chris is literally showing his daughters that they don't matter/ mean less than his new girlfriends kid. First by moving into a house he knew didn't have enough space for them (put a lock on their door for when they arent there. Bella shouldn't be going into their space/touching their things. Also you think it would be simple logic but clearly he needs it spelled out to him. He is with sophie and bella 100% of the time. When he is has HIS daughters he should be ensuring quality time with just them away from this new family set up. There is no point pushing the blended family if your not also going to prioritise time with them, they will just resent him and his new family

That’s a good suggestion about the lock on the door, I will bring it up next time I see Chris.

I will also show him this thread and it will hopefully give him a wake up call.

OP posts:
GFBurger · 16/10/2025 15:36

I agree with the majority here.

Chris is a lazy and cheap father who doesn’t want to pay for his own space or parent his own children.

He moved on way too quickly for easy sex and cheaper rent without any consideration for his daughters.

He should put his actual children first and should never have tried to blend the family this soon.

Also Sophie… whaaat on earth. You should never have moved him in. He is someone else’s father. Not Bella’s. It’s too damn late to pretend.

Dweetfidilove · 16/10/2025 15:39

Chris is a shitbag, but Sophie also has some responsibility here. Why did she allow them to move in?

Now for the new baby that's about to enter this melee in 1, 2, 3... So damn predictable and sad 😒.

ThejoyofNC · 16/10/2025 15:43

Chris is going to lose his own kids because he's more bothered about someone else's.

Notonthestairs · 16/10/2025 15:46

Chris and Sophie are a couple.
But Chris, Sophie, Bella and Chris' two daughters are not a family.

Forcing them to be all under one roof doesn't change that.

I agree his children are coming to an age when they will just stop visiting him. Why would they visit when they get no time with their parent?

ThejoyofNC · 16/10/2025 15:46

Oh and do let us know his response OP.

Thatsalineallright · 16/10/2025 15:51

Why are you friends with this man?

Silvertulips · 16/10/2025 15:55

I think Chris needs to separate the families -

Chris and elder girls go to family gatherings the girls are invited to.

Chris and Sophie attend her family gatherings.

Occasionally the two go together.

If Chris only sees the girls every other weekend, maybe this can be swapped out for more elder kid activities in the week - new movies, tea out, bowling - rather than spend the time at home being squished.

mrsschneebly · 16/10/2025 16:00

There was a thread recently where a woman got a load of stick and ‘dick over kids’ comments because she was asking how best to move in with her partner of seven years who she is marrying next year. And two of the kids in that scenario were adults. I found that a bit ridiculous.

However this situation is a prime example of selfish and careless blending of families. Chris has prioritised his own wants at the expense of his children and is 90% to blame for the whole mess. Sophie is probably just grateful to have an older man paying her bills and parenting her child. Bella is a kid herself and understandably excited at the novelty of having a father figure.

Chris didn’t have to move in with them. He could have still seen Sophie and involved her in some family stuff without trying to make them into a brand new shiny family at such an early stage. The sad fact is that by rushing and forcing this he has made the possibility of them blending successfully much less likely. He absolutely should have waited.