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To be sick of pretentious use of “said”

135 replies

Driftingawaynow · 14/10/2025 15:17

Increasingly I notice people using the word “said” where “the” would do fine.

for example:

asked my husband to take out the washing, he left said washing in the dryer.

it’s really bizarrely irritating

OP posts:
StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 19:12

Wadadli · 14/10/2025 18:04

Agree. “Methinks” gives me a sphincter spasm

I love "methinks", especially when it is repeated unnecessarily (not that it's ever necessary). Methinks, methinks! 😂

RhaenysRocks · 14/10/2025 19:16

I get increasingly irritated by the dumbing down of language and anyone using anything more complex than text speak being seen as pretentious. It goes hand in hand with a trend toward the "ordinary person" as opposed to anyone with an education or expertise.

thistimelastweek · 14/10/2025 19:22

JacquesHarlow · 14/10/2025 15:34

Mine happens to be one which everyone else vociferously defends on here...

I do not like the word-inflation around the term "vile".

It used to be a very powerful word . The recently killed singer Ian Watkins committed crimes we could easily describe as "vile". A former TOTP presenter who liked cigars? Vile.

It used to mean extremely unpleasant. Morally repugnant.

Today, I see so many folk using the word "vile" deliberately in scenarios which do not deserve the word.

Someone phoned the Vanessa show recently to say how they thought a certain American duchess is "vile". Vanessa ( a very educated woman, lest we forget) was stunned and replied "why do you say this?!"

It's such an extraordinary leap to describe someone in this way.

Why do we over-use the word "vile"?

Same goes for 'disgusting'.

Shit on your shoe is disgusting .
Waitrose running out of avocados is a bit disappointing.

DiscoBob · 14/10/2025 19:25

'the washing of which I spoke' might be even worse!

RoseAndGeranium · 14/10/2025 19:32

Also, everyone on social media needs to stop using the word ‘ilk’ in weirdly aggressive and accusatory ways. ‘The country is going down the pan because of you and your ilk!’ ‘You and your ilk make vulnerable people’s lives a misery!’ ‘You and your ilk WOULD say that!’ It’s awful.

Legomania · 14/10/2025 19:33

StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 19:08

asked my husband to take out the washing, he left said washing in the dryer.

I suppose the intention is to make it clear that the washing he left in the dryer is the same washing they asked him to take out. It's a bit unnecessary, though because it's unlikely that anyone is going to think they are talking about two different loads of washing.

It's unnecessary and a bit annoying, but hardly a hanging offense, unlike when people are talking about something someone else said and they say

Quote, unquote "He didn't take the said washing out"

instead of:

Quote "He didn't take the said washing out" Unquote.

That is a hanging offense...

It's slang, to emphasise someone's wording! Obviously used differently if you are dictating a legal letter etc

'Steve said, quote unquote, "This room smells of feet"!'

Biskieboo · 14/10/2025 19:34

A MN-specific one that grinds my gears is 'beyond'. It seems that for some contributors nothing can be a bit cheeky or inappropriate or unprofessional, or even cheeky or inappropriate or unprofessional to a moderate-but-not-particularly-remarkable degree, rather it has to be 'beyond' cheeky etc. Just calm down a bit.

Legomania · 14/10/2025 19:34

StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 19:08

asked my husband to take out the washing, he left said washing in the dryer.

I suppose the intention is to make it clear that the washing he left in the dryer is the same washing they asked him to take out. It's a bit unnecessary, though because it's unlikely that anyone is going to think they are talking about two different loads of washing.

It's unnecessary and a bit annoying, but hardly a hanging offense, unlike when people are talking about something someone else said and they say

Quote, unquote "He didn't take the said washing out"

instead of:

Quote "He didn't take the said washing out" Unquote.

That is a hanging offense...

Also, 'said' replaces 'the'. 'The said' really is a hanging offence!

Legomania · 14/10/2025 19:37

ChuckGarabedian · 14/10/2025 15:42

I agree, also think ‘grim’ is similarly overused on here.

Agree with vile. 'Grim' has been slang for 'gross' for ages though

NotThisShitAgain121 · 14/10/2025 19:39

Who's arsed!

Driftingawaynow · 14/10/2025 19:39

yes 🤮 “methinks” @NOTTHEHOUSEPLANT @Wadadli is worse but it’s along these lines for me. Cringe

i think it’s pretentious as it’s an excessively frilly way to speak which no one apart from Jacob Rees-Mogg wouod use irl. And I have seen it crop up on Mn a lot recently.

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NotThisShitAgain121 · 14/10/2025 19:42

Gets on my fucking nerves that one.

Wadadli · 14/10/2025 19:56

StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 19:12

I love "methinks", especially when it is repeated unnecessarily (not that it's ever necessary). Methinks, methinks! 😂

((°))

😂😂😂

StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 19:57

Legomania · 14/10/2025 19:33

It's slang, to emphasise someone's wording! Obviously used differently if you are dictating a legal letter etc

'Steve said, quote unquote, "This room smells of feet"!'

But,

'Steve said, quote unquote, "This room smells of feet and I love a delicious ripe camembert, so I think I'll stay a bit longer".

And

'Steve said, quote "This room smells of feet" unquote, and love a delicious ripe camembert, so I think I'll stay a bit longer unquote'.

Tell you different things about Steve and me and how we feel about feety rooms.

StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 19:58

Legomania · 14/10/2025 19:34

Also, 'said' replaces 'the'. 'The said' really is a hanging offence!

I think you are probably right! 🤣

Kimura · 14/10/2025 20:00

UnctuousUnicorns · 14/10/2025 15:27

I agree. "Aforementioned" would be much better imo.

Me: Can you empty the bins in the kitchen please?

Him: Yep.

Me, 6 hours later: The aforementioned bins remain in the aforementioned kitchen; if they're not taken out soon people will be referring to you in the past tense as well. Love you kiss kiss.

Legomania · 14/10/2025 20:11

StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 19:57

But,

'Steve said, quote unquote, "This room smells of feet and I love a delicious ripe camembert, so I think I'll stay a bit longer".

And

'Steve said, quote "This room smells of feet" unquote, and love a delicious ripe camembert, so I think I'll stay a bit longer unquote'.

Tell you different things about Steve and me and how we feel about feety rooms.

Now this point I don't get 😅feels like an extra or a missing unquote in there

StinkyCheeseMoose · 14/10/2025 20:15

'Steve said, quote "This room smells of feet" unquote, and love a delicious ripe camembert, so I think I'll stay a bit longer unquote'.

Definitely extra! I checked it before posting too! Thanks for noticing! 🤣

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 16/10/2025 00:51

I get very irritated by people who answer with “absolutely “ each time they answer a question. What is wrong with “yes”?

PollyBell · 16/10/2025 01:47

I do think there is no need to use the word said like this but there is also no need to call it pretentious either

there seems to be a new thing where people have to decide or put things on to other so it appears they have a chip on their shoulder, if it is not people using words it is feeling constantly judged or others dont have enough going on so come of with backgrounds to people ''they are jealous'' or " they are looking at me and judging me becasue I have some issue going on and don't want to deal with so blaming others'' or ''I have decided that person thinks this about me because I have made it up'' or ''they use this word and now I have decided that are doing it just to annoy me and think they are better than me''

Dartmoorcheffy · 16/10/2025 01:59

Im fed up of the overuse of the word "narrative".

Kimura · 16/10/2025 02:06

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 16/10/2025 00:51

I get very irritated by people who answer with “absolutely “ each time they answer a question. What is wrong with “yes”?

Edited

I'm quite wordy so stuff like this doesn't bother me. What does irritate me is people using words they don't really know the meaning of in slightly the wrong context.

Morningsleepin · 16/10/2025 02:08

Driftingawaynow · 14/10/2025 19:39

yes 🤮 “methinks” @NOTTHEHOUSEPLANT @Wadadli is worse but it’s along these lines for me. Cringe

i think it’s pretentious as it’s an excessively frilly way to speak which no one apart from Jacob Rees-Mogg wouod use irl. And I have seen it crop up on Mn a lot recently.

So only Jacob Rees Mogg uses it. Make up your mind

whataweekImhaving · 16/10/2025 02:29

Bottlefall · 14/10/2025 15:21

It doesn't mean the same thing?

I can't say it's something I use or that I notice, but it has a slightly different meaning. I don't know why it's pretentious?

It does mean the same thing.

What difference are you seeing between the two statements?

OP, I agree fully. It’s overused, pretentious and annoying.

PollyBell · 16/10/2025 02:34

Dartmoorcheffy · 16/10/2025 01:59

Im fed up of the overuse of the word "narrative".

and journey or dream when not actually meaning those 2 things

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