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To call for this charity to be sued under UK equality act ?!

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Sickleg · 13/10/2025 16:33

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwk1204jno.amp

They’ve got millions . Make them pay some of those millions to a women’s charity.

BBC STORY:

A charity run organised by the East London Mosque Trust has excluded women and girls aged 13 and over from taking part.
The Muslim Charity Run, which was held in Victoria Park in Tower Hamlets on Sunday, said on its website: "Our inclusive atmosphere ensures that every individual, from the youngest to the oldest, can take part and make a difference."
It added: "This is open to men, boys of all ages and girls under 12, but everyone is welcome at the park to cheer on the runners."

A stock image close-up of a female athlete tying her running shoe.

'Inclusive' Muslim Charity Run bans women and teenage girls - BBC News

The Muslim Charity Run says its "inclusive" race is open to men, boys - and girls under 12.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwk1204jno.amp

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Sickleg · 13/10/2025 22:54

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:34

I don’t understand why you don’t think you can’t sue the mosque. You know the law, you know it’s on your side, you’re passionate- it’s literally just filling out and submitting forms??

You seem passionate about commenting . Why don’t you start ptoceedings? How do you know lots of us haven’t already complained to MP, mayor & chariity itself.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 22:55

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:52

Because the London Marathon isn’t organised by an Islamic organisation 🙄
Islam, like any other religion has several denominations. Some that will be more and some less conservative. There are parts of the world like Bosnia where Muslims drink for instance, but in the Middle East that wouldn’t be the case.

Islamic organisations have to comply with the law, just like everyone else.

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:55

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:34

I don’t understand why you don’t think you can’t sue the mosque. You know the law, you know it’s on your side, you’re passionate- it’s literally just filling out and submitting forms??

I want the law to be upheld. I want organisations to be held accountable when in breach. I want the continuation of equal opportunities in accessing goods and services. I want parity across protected characteristics. You seem obsessed with suing places for some reason.

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:56

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:55

I want the law to be upheld. I want organisations to be held accountable when in breach. I want the continuation of equal opportunities in accessing goods and services. I want parity across protected characteristics. You seem obsessed with suing places for some reason.

Because that’s the remedy the EA- which you have said clearly is on your side- offers.

what on earth would you try and enact the EA by an email to the charities commission? It’s really odd behaviour

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 22:58

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 19:13

Who are you reporting it to?

I’m not doing anything.

You’re busy commenting on here, why not complain instead of trolling?

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 22:58

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:55

I want the law to be upheld. I want organisations to be held accountable when in breach. I want the continuation of equal opportunities in accessing goods and services. I want parity across protected characteristics. You seem obsessed with suing places for some reason.

If you want the law to be upheld, your ultimate course of action is to go through the court system.

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 23:01

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 22:58

You’re busy commenting on here, why not complain instead of trolling?

I’m not trolling (do you know what that means?)
I’m asking you why this hysterical thread and emails to the mayor rather than court action to right this (identified by yourselves as a very clear) breech of the EA

millymollymoomoo · 13/10/2025 23:02

People supporting this and being goady should be ashamed. We all know why they’re excluded and we all ( should) know it’s completely unacceptable in this country and wont be tolerated !

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:05

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 22:53

At risk of sounding like a Reform voter, we don't recognise Islamic law in the UK. What matters is the laws passed by Parliament, not the made up laws of people's various sky pixies.

Even Muslims have to comply with the Equality Act.

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Nobody is saying the UK recognises ‘Islamic law’. But certain customs that this religion holds in its own right. You are not a Muslim, therefore these customs don’t apply to you, nor are they imposed on you.

People take part in charity runs because they believe in the cause. None of you people would take part in a run to raise money for local Mosques. And the organisers know that.

So they organised an event with rules that satisfy their majority - that is Muslim people. But white folk want to jump in and argue on principle, about an event they wouldn’t even spectate for.

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 23:05

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 23:01

I’m not trolling (do you know what that means?)
I’m asking you why this hysterical thread and emails to the mayor rather than court action to right this (identified by yourselves as a very clear) breech of the EA

You asked what I was doing about this - I told you. That wasn't good enough. You want me to sue the mosque instead. For someone who has already confirmed they don't care, why are you bothered what I choose to do?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 23:09

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:05

Nobody is saying the UK recognises ‘Islamic law’. But certain customs that this religion holds in its own right. You are not a Muslim, therefore these customs don’t apply to you, nor are they imposed on you.

People take part in charity runs because they believe in the cause. None of you people would take part in a run to raise money for local Mosques. And the organisers know that.

So they organised an event with rules that satisfy their majority - that is Muslim people. But white folk want to jump in and argue on principle, about an event they wouldn’t even spectate for.

It doesn't matter whether the rules "satisfy the majority" if they aren't compliant with the actual law.

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:14

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 23:09

It doesn't matter whether the rules "satisfy the majority" if they aren't compliant with the actual law.

Well the only way to know for sure if the exemptions in the Equality Act apply here would be to… sue the mosque which looks like nobody on this thread is willing to do. As the interpretations differ.

I am very curious though, if the event was ran by Orthodox Jews or Buddhists with the same criteria, would this thread also exist?

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 23:15

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 23:01

I’m not trolling (do you know what that means?)
I’m asking you why this hysterical thread and emails to the mayor rather than court action to right this (identified by yourselves as a very clear) breech of the EA

Come on PP, stop messing around & start proceedings instead of trolling!

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BundleBoogie · 13/10/2025 23:15

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:05

Nobody is saying the UK recognises ‘Islamic law’. But certain customs that this religion holds in its own right. You are not a Muslim, therefore these customs don’t apply to you, nor are they imposed on you.

People take part in charity runs because they believe in the cause. None of you people would take part in a run to raise money for local Mosques. And the organisers know that.

So they organised an event with rules that satisfy their majority - that is Muslim people. But white folk want to jump in and argue on principle, about an event they wouldn’t even spectate for.

People take part in charity runs because they believe in the cause.

Except that if they are female above the age of 12 they can’t, not because they chose not to but because they abuse they were deliberately excluded.

Why do you think it’s ok for a Muslim women and girls to be excluded from a ‘family’ event? Should we listen to the Muslim women who are not happy about this or just ignore them?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 23:15

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:14

Well the only way to know for sure if the exemptions in the Equality Act apply here would be to… sue the mosque which looks like nobody on this thread is willing to do. As the interpretations differ.

I am very curious though, if the event was ran by Orthodox Jews or Buddhists with the same criteria, would this thread also exist?

Yes it would.

Sex discrimination is wrong no matter who is doing it.

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:18

BundleBoogie · 13/10/2025 23:15

People take part in charity runs because they believe in the cause.

Except that if they are female above the age of 12 they can’t, not because they chose not to but because they abuse they were deliberately excluded.

Why do you think it’s ok for a Muslim women and girls to be excluded from a ‘family’ event? Should we listen to the Muslim women who are not happy about this or just ignore them?

I would love to hear from Muslim women who were unhappy about this, absolutely. Although it’s not exactly clear on this thread who is a Muslim woman on this thread. My guess is that there is no representation on this thread - happy to be corrected.

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:20

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 23:15

Yes it would.

Sex discrimination is wrong no matter who is doing it.

Well as long as that’s the consensus, then I appreciate the debate.

PencilsInSpace · 13/10/2025 23:25

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:34

I don’t understand why you don’t think you can’t sue the mosque. You know the law, you know it’s on your side, you’re passionate- it’s literally just filling out and submitting forms??

No it isn't.

There is a pre-action protocol to comply with. You are expected to enter into correspondence with the aim of avoiding court action if possible. You are required to show you have legal standing - i.e. you need some sort of evidence that you have been directly affected. You have to pay court fees, you have to find money for legal advice and representation and if you lose (which is always a possibility) you are liable for the other side's costs as well.

Court action is always a last resort. Very often there are other routes to redress that are far quicker, cheaper and less stressful, such as involving a regulatory body, but the first step is always to complain in writing to the organisation that is discriminating.

Underthinker · 13/10/2025 23:27

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 23:01

I’m not trolling (do you know what that means?)
I’m asking you why this hysterical thread and emails to the mayor rather than court action to right this (identified by yourselves as a very clear) breech of the EA

Even if you have a strong case, legal action is risky, expensive, time consuming and stressful. Your attitude that people should sue or stay silent is a feeble attempt to stop people highlighting an injustice.

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 23:37

@PencilsInSpace @Underthinker thank you both for succinctly articulating why " just sue the mosque "! As a pp is hell bent on, isn't the only course of redress or the most appropriate action in some cases.. I didn't realise that I was being goaded into staying silent and shutting up, until you highlighted that aspect either.

NapoleonsToe · 13/10/2025 23:46

Actually as it's for women and anyone who identities as a woman, then it doesn't comply as it discriminates against some men. If it was just for women it would be fine.

KWaldron · 14/10/2025 00:07

Are you pretending not to understand the situation?

Willyoujustbequiet · 14/10/2025 01:29

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:56

Because that’s the remedy the EA- which you have said clearly is on your side- offers.

what on earth would you try and enact the EA by an email to the charities commission? It’s really odd behaviour

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Its not odd behaviour at all.

Its the regulatory body and has various sanctions at its disposal.

Reporting to the Charity Commission for a breach of the EA would be entirely correct.

Sparron · 14/10/2025 01:43

It's so sad to see such intolerance of bigotry against women. Mumsnet is becoming a racist cess pit.
Why can't you all be more understanding of different cultural beliefs and practices.
Discrimination against women is price worth paying for the strength diversity gives this country.

sunshinestar1986 · 14/10/2025 03:42

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 21:23

Shocking statistics. You hit nail on head saying :

Why should we accept discrimination against Muslim women in the name of religion?

That is exactly the point. Basically Handmaid’s Tale.

Maybe these stats would've been somewhat accurate 30 years ago?
But not today so I'm not sure where such shocking lies come from 🤔
Not sure who you are, but you sound like you have some sort of agenda.
No one will thank you for your pretentious outrage.