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Cyclists have made my home city too stressful to live in any more

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valianttortoise · 12/10/2025 11:51

Cycling on the pavement (on e-bikes, racing bikes, whatever) at speed, silently, no lights often, no pausing for pedestrians to cross at zebra crossings or even green men. An e-bike nearly hit me yesterday while a policeman was literally standing there watching (outside a government building in case you're wondering where on earth I saw a live one) and he did nothing, just looked at me like "wow that was close!"

I can't handle it any more it's miserable. I can't drive so it's not a car thing it's a pedestrian safety thing.

I also think seeing that it's fine to do this, in balaclavas often, is sending a message that crime and bad behaviour in general are ok. No one will stop you.

Some men (boys? hard to tell in balaclavas) on e-bikes provided by the council took an angle grinder into a busy central square last week and just calmly cut out bicycles from stands to steal them (obviously a crime I feel conflicted about in itself but how long until they realise they can just mug pedestrians at knifepoint? It was 3pm, bright sunshine).

I find it kind of hard to believe what we're just supposed to live with now. No safe spaces for walking - forget about it if you're visually impaired.

If you live somewhere with no antisocial cyclists where is it please as I'd like to join you.

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LameBorzoi · 16/10/2025 21:46

dynamiccactus · 16/10/2025 16:52

Yes happens where I am too, with the same uncomprehending look if you suggest they should perhaps stay on the roads. I have no idea what is wrong with people.

Generally because I am legally riding on a shared pathway, and the road in question is a hellscape. You try playing chicken with the metal death boxes!

LameBorzoi · 16/10/2025 22:02

Arran2024 · 16/10/2025 09:05

You may be right that it's a mess. The London Road section is a particular cause for frustration i believe. But actually, the experience here shows just how hard it is to put cycling infrastructure into an existing town system.

They just took out all the bus lanes to accommodate the cycle lanes for example.

They have also gone for ideas used in Northern Europe like floating bus stops which people here don't understand and which are actively dangerous.

Imo the best thing they have done for cyclists is the 20mph speed limit.

I suspect primarily it's another development that does not give cyclists any right of way. The cars travelling down the road have right of way, but the cyclists practically end up stopping at every cross street. When you have to do that, there's little point in being on a bike - you might as well walk.

jetlag92 · 16/10/2025 22:10

Just buy a stiff golf umbrella - you extend it as you cross. You poke as they try to kill you.

BruFord · 16/10/2025 22:13

jetlag92 · 16/10/2025 22:10

Just buy a stiff golf umbrella - you extend it as you cross. You poke as they try to kill you.

@jetlag92 Oh, that a good idea for e-scooter riders who cut across pedestrians on pavements, poke them with a massive umbrella as they whizz by. 😂

DdraigGoch · 17/10/2025 01:49

TempestTost · 16/10/2025 01:58

This is only partly true.

Geography makes a differernce, I don't know why this is so difficult for some people to accept.

I live in a northern climate. There is a long winter which includes a lot of snow, slush, and icy roads, and quite cold temperatures. It's also very hilly.

Of the people who can cycle (and it's important to remember there are quite a lot of people who cannot cycle, or not cycle their commutes,) only a very small minority of those continue to cycle in the winter. It's not just the "serious" biker - most of those stop cycling for the winter months as well. Most who do it are very fit, and have a second, specialised (expensive) bike with differernt tyres.

I am not sure why people don't understand this. I know several people who live in places where few have cars because they don't make sense due to geography. People seem to understand that well enough, I am not sure why there is such a block about geography affecting biking.

People in Switzerland cycle. People in Finland cycle. While geography does make a small difference, the quality of the infrastructure matters far more.

DdraigGoch · 17/10/2025 01:52

TempestTost · 16/10/2025 02:08

You are speaking as if there is some other place for the cars to park. They already removed half the parking on this street to put the bike lanes in place. The remaining spots are the only parking for people coming to the residences and businesses. Accessible parking isn't a think in that whole neighbourhood because there is just so little of it.

What they should do is use the rear road as the main corridor for bikes, and keep the front road as a corridor mainly for cars, which would encourage them to stay out of the other roads the bikes are concentrated on. It's never going to be a great bike corridor, there are too many side roads branching off of it, and a lot of pedestrian crossings as well. Bikes and pedestrians are both safer if the bikes on that road are in the flow of traffic.

It's people thinking like you that have caused this completely shit design, as if they can simply remove all car infrastructure that gets in the way of bikes and it will be fine, and determined to make bike lanes where they won't ever work well.

Parking is not a human right. I used to find it difficult to find a spot in my village, particularly on a Saturday evening (bloody second homes). I sometimes ended up parked at the bottom of the hill.

So I solved the problem by buying a bike and selling the car.

LameBorzoi · 17/10/2025 01:54

DdraigGoch · 17/10/2025 01:49

People in Switzerland cycle. People in Finland cycle. While geography does make a small difference, the quality of the infrastructure matters far more.

Cycling in bad weather can be really nice if you have the right gear, somewhere sheltered to put the bike, and good paths away from cars splashing you.

LameBorzoi · 17/10/2025 02:00

DdraigGoch · 17/10/2025 01:52

Parking is not a human right. I used to find it difficult to find a spot in my village, particularly on a Saturday evening (bloody second homes). I sometimes ended up parked at the bottom of the hill.

So I solved the problem by buying a bike and selling the car.

Exactly. This is what I mean when I say "we aren't willing to give up any car privileges".

If you try to remove a few parking spaces (that can never make a dent on transport needs) to make a bike path that could serve hundreds or thousands of people per day, people kick up the most almighty fuss!

Make a bike path that forces cars to pause for a second / give way when turning on or off a main road, it's a "traffic disaster".

DdraigGoch · 17/10/2025 02:03

LameBorzoi · 17/10/2025 01:54

Cycling in bad weather can be really nice if you have the right gear, somewhere sheltered to put the bike, and good paths away from cars splashing you.

Yes, I don't care about rain, I just wear waterproofs. I don't care about snow or ice, I'd use studded tyres if it happened more often - according to a Finnish friend-of-a-friend it's annoying when the temperature hits minus 30 because the grease in his bearings solidifies and he has to get the bus to work. Wind is hard work unless you're electrically assisted.

You know what I do hate? The moron in the Isuzu pickup truck who close passed me on a slushy road and gave me wet socks. The other lane was clear, he could have gone in the wheel ruts of that and passed me safely. But no. That was when I asked for a helmet cam for Christmas.

If anyone is interested in how the Finns cope with cycling just below the Arctic Circle in winter, this is Oulu:

ForPlumReader · 17/10/2025 08:47

LameBorzoi · 16/10/2025 21:46

Generally because I am legally riding on a shared pathway, and the road in question is a hellscape. You try playing chicken with the metal death boxes!

The comment was in relation to car drivers who mount the pavement to park but continue to drive until the find the perfect spot.

SandandSky · 17/10/2025 08:53

Cambridge has always had a large cycling culture so YABU if you’ve been in Cambridge forever and are only just frustrated with it now. Although I’ve never seen balaclavas here, personally.

anywhere else I guess YANBU if this is a huge change because I get it.

Even in Cambridge where it’s expected it can be wearisome - I use the road as a cyclist and in a car and find it infuriating how many cyclists jump red lights

paradisecircus · 17/10/2025 08:55

Only read the OP and am sure this has been said, but in my city it's drivers who cause the biggest nuisance - speeding, racing, not having any patience with other road users. And it's drivers who can kill you, so - whilst I hate them being on pavements - I don't have much headspace to care about cyclists.

Arran2024 · 17/10/2025 14:14

LameBorzoi · 16/10/2025 21:30

But spending on bike infrastructure isn't huge. It's tiny. It's a tiny fraction of transport infrastructure costs. Which is ridiculous, because money spent on bike infrastructure results in net government savings due to decreased health costs etc.

We know that if you put GOOD cycling infrastructure in (which might include bike lockers) people will use it.

It's very clear, from international examples, what works. We don't need to install bad infrastructure (and then shrug our shoulders and say "well, I guess people don't like bikes).

The Kingston scheme seems to have taken the decision to give all the main bus routes a cycle lane, which means all the main roads leading to other areas. I guess they thought this made sense as it means that people cycling those routes have a safer option now, as these are the most traffic dense areas.

But are these where people want to cycle?

For a start, all the cycle lanes lead to and from Kingston, but lots of journeys there are for shopping or socialising. It's not a major hub for say office workers.

They didn't look at where people would want to go on their bikes.

Anyway, for whatever reason, the demand to cycle along very busy roads doesn't seem to be there and hasn't increased.

I'm still cross they took out the bus lanes.

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