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Why the F should I tell BBC every year that I don’t watch TV ?

338 replies

LadyGillingham · 11/10/2025 07:49

Why can’t they upgrade their subscriptions/licencing model like Netflix etc ?

If you look at BBC corporation’s ownership, majority stakeholders are private Ltd companies and individuals. Why the f are they entitled to demand subscription fees from me for services I don’t use!

The language in the emails is quite strong, I’m sure a lot of senior citizens just pay to not get into trouble. That’s extortion!

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RoseAndGeranium · 11/10/2025 11:01

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:42

Nobody is responding to my post about CBeebies. My five year old grandson was watching IiPlayer on his iPad in the car. He was watching g a programme about Eid. We are not Muslims or religious so it was moving to hear him enthusiastically explain Eid celebrations to me.
I am a teacher ( retired) and I so
often embedded a a short clip from one of the BBC educational programmes in
my whiteboard presentations. He was watching Something Special series I think.
I think a lot of people take this kind of provision for granted and think it gets paid for from the magic money tree.

CBeebies has great content and back when we had a tv licence it was the only thing my children were allowed to watch. Numberblocks and Alphablocks were a staple. I would love to buy these separately and would welcome a subscription model that made paying a monthly sum for children’s programming an option. I still don’t agree that the BBC should be allowed to flout its own impartiality charter whilst aggressively demanding annual declarations of non-use.

LlynTegid · 11/10/2025 11:04

RoseAndGeranium · 11/10/2025 08:18

Eh? Why is it any harder or more costly for the BBC itself to keep a record of who doesn’t have to pay?

Collecting revenue is not a free exercise. Adding it as one line to another bill is much cheaper.

Cookingupmyfirstbornson · 11/10/2025 11:04

Christ @Rosesfornoses why don't you just marry cbeebies if you love it so much? 🤣

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:06

battairzeedurgzome · 11/10/2025 10:21

I never understand why so many people are terrified of a home visit. They just need to master a few useful phrases:

Remind me, what are your powers of entry?

Do you have a warrant?

No? Well, fuck off then.

Or just close the door on them no need to be rude.

Tigerbalmshark · 11/10/2025 11:06

FutureMarchionessOfVidal · 11/10/2025 10:51

I think you will find that the very elderly often encounter certain problems listening to the radio!

No, my tv free elderly relative has never listened to BBC radio (even in the days when she could have heard it). Nor do I (I don’t have a licence either: it must run in the family).

I don’t even have a radio (just never thought of it tbh) and I have never seen one in her house.

There is a really prevalent assumption being displayed throughout this thread that tv, and the BBC in particular, is a vital integrated part of all of our lives - in particular for entertaining and educating children & consoling the elderly - and that those of us denying this must be lying, or miserable, or mistaken, or mad haired weirdos praying to a Boris Johnson shrine when not weeping over our loneliness. I find this very sad and a bit alarming. Humans lasted a long time in functioning communities without tv you know, educating children, caring for the elderly, & filling those long tv-less evening with eccentric things like having sex, reading books, and cleaning the bathroom.

Quite. I fill my long lonely nights browsing on mumsnet! 🤣🤣🤣

Honestly, DH and I work long hours, we do a lot of sports, I like reading and Duolingo, we have a social life, DS has a lot of clubs and activities, and likes playing Minecraft and various Switch games. If I do want to watch something I’d rather go to the cinema or theatre. If there is a sporting event we want to watch, we go to the pub and watch it with friends. CBeebies is a hotel/holiday/gran’s house treat for DS. We lived overseas when he was a preschooler so I promise he didn’t miss out on Numberblocks 😆

I do listen to R4 but you don’t need a licence for that. If you did, I would pay it. But I’m not paying for a tv licence when we genuinely don’t watch it.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 11/10/2025 11:06

This thread has made me cancel my tv licence duevto renes at end of month genuinely tv is just used for gaming and I watch stuff on my phone ( not iplayer) I did watch sewing bee but the cost versus hours watched is really high so that’s £170 saved!

scorpiogirly · 11/10/2025 11:07

Cancelled mine about a year or two ago and I've had an email saying it's run our and I have to tell them again. Unsure whether to do that or ignore it.

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:10

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 10:29

Their letters are actually comical, with a very dated looking design, with a 1980’s-esqe ‘rubber stamp ‘ with the ‘signature’ of the boss on it, like something a seven year old would knock up on the computer and they go In a cycle, such a waste of paper, it’s a shame that anyone takes them seriously.

Yeah I have hundreds of them they start off quite gently reminding you, you don't have a licence, and they get increasingly threatening promising visits etc, then the whole cycle starts again such a waste of paper.

Luxio · 11/10/2025 11:10

scorpiogirly · 11/10/2025 11:07

Cancelled mine about a year or two ago and I've had an email saying it's run our and I have to tell them again. Unsure whether to do that or ignore it.

I declared I didn't need one and still get letters so personally I would bother wasting any time letting them know.

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:11

@FutureMarchionessOfVidal

yeah good old ‘auntie’

it’s almost as if other streaming / pay per view / catch up as and when you want them with no adverts sometimes didn’t exist isn’t it

it is 2025 not 1955

scorpiogirly · 11/10/2025 11:15

Luxio · 11/10/2025 11:10

I declared I didn't need one and still get letters so personally I would bother wasting any time letting them know.

Yeah I've heard that. They're a nuisance. I don't watch live TV at all but obviously watch Netflix and YouTube.

The trouble is with this insidious company though is the goons they send around lie through their teeth and claimed they saw you watching live TV through the window etc. Horrible people.

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:16

SumUp · 11/10/2025 08:53

I pay it because although I don’t watch live TV, I appreciate all their ad free radio output and want it to continue. And I can afford to.

But it is an outdated system. An opt in system, like Netflix, would be much better.

More fool you for paying a bill that you don't need to ,would you pay for a bag of shopping you didn't need or someone else's gas bill?

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:19

@x2boys how many ‘’investigations’ have they started against your address? actually not you as they don’t know your name !
I must be in double figures by now 🤔

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:20

@SumUp as I’ve said before they will not do a subs service they would lose BILLIONS in revenue, they just aren’t that popular

SushiForMe · 11/10/2025 11:21

We would not accept this from any other service provider.

Just imagine if Netflix started sending everybody threatening letters and people at the door, and asking people to opt out every month. Also the opt put form is worded threateningly, and suggests that most people who opt out are fraudsters and are you sure you are not one of them? Because we will fine you 1000s of £ if that’s the case.

Would you be happy for Netflix to send this every year to everybody including elderly and vulnerable people?

Of course the system needs to be opt in, otherwise it is bullying.

wintertime4me · 11/10/2025 11:25

Ive not had a tv in years if or when i get a letter in the post i just ring them all done within a few minutes then get on with my life.
Simple.

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:28

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:19

@x2boys how many ‘’investigations’ have they started against your address? actually not you as they don’t know your name !
I must be in double figures by now 🤔

Must be in the hundreds!
They always promise to visit but I never get one.

godmum56 · 11/10/2025 11:29

Largestlegocollectionever · 11/10/2025 08:00

I just laugh at them, the amount of times they’ve said someone is going to call around to check. 🙄

its many years ago now but people did used to visit to check AND in vans with the whirly thing on the top. When we bought our first house it was still in the era of paper licences. We giot a visit from a bloke who asked did we have a licence and assumed it was because we had newly moved in and it was our first TV licence. I showed him the licence and he went away happy. Same thing happened a few weeks later and then a third time. Bloke very apologetic by then. The following year it happened again and this time on the second visit he came back triumphant. Did I or my husband work for the prisons service? Nope. Turns out for some reason the house was registered on ther lists as in the ownership of the prisons service used for temporary accommodation of prisons staff! No idea how or why. The previous owner so far as we knew, worked in a bank.

Whammyyammy · 11/10/2025 11:29

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:49

My grandchildren are not allowed to watch YouTube etc. Their parents do allow CBeebies and CBBC. It is a life saver. Hate to think it will disappear in the future

And many hope bbc will disappear

Whammyyammy · 11/10/2025 11:31

wintertime4me · 11/10/2025 11:25

Ive not had a tv in years if or when i get a letter in the post i just ring them all done within a few minutes then get on with my life.
Simple.

Even simpler to just not ring or email them though

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:31

Makes me laug how we all fell for the "Detector van," nonsense.

Whammyyammy · 11/10/2025 11:32

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:06

Or just close the door on them no need to be rude.

But capital a rude by simply turning up. Trying to scare people into buying an outdated item that is no longer needed.

spoonbillstretford · 11/10/2025 11:35

It's not hard is it?

I wish I could tell Sky I don't want 95% of what they provide and pay £15 a month instead.

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:47

@x2boys I would love a visit, it’s very disappointing of them to keep letting us down

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:48

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:31

Makes me laug how we all fell for the "Detector van," nonsense.

Not everyone did !