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To ask you to help me make sense of our choices for secondary schools before I lose my mind.

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Icantpeopleanymore · 08/10/2025 17:44

This is very very long, sorry, but I want to include everything...if anyone can be bothered to read it, firstly well done and secondly thank you if you have any thoughts! I'm probably being unreasonable because there is no easy answer and I'm unashamedly putting this here for traffic, sorry!

Year 6 Son is autistic, possibly ADHD.

Very anxious, very bright (reading age of 15) and has done the 11+, no tutoring, said it was easy but we shall see...I really don't have any idea if he will pass. He got access arrangements but his primary didn't sort out the extra time they later realised he probably should have had. He had three different teachers in year 5 and he has struggled as we've had a very rough year as a family. So I could appeal and he might then get in somewhere but I am not sure I'd want to.

He is socially awkward, sometimes situationally mute, stims a lot, needs lots of sensory input, very clingy to me, struggles with transitions...but masks massively at school as he doesn't want to appear different and then it comes out at home, doesn't sleep well at all (melatonin only works in higher doses and sometimes only if he's had days of very late nights so he's exhausted). He's very literal with instructions. He likes routine.

But he's wonderful, funny, obsessed with dinosaurs and animals, loves science, good at maths, English, art. Very immature for his age though.

We live in a grammar school area, 25% go, we live rurally, about a mile on the outskirts of a big town in Kent. We will be moving in two years as ex is forcing me to sell the house when the fixed term mortgage is up, could move anywhere potentially. Currently goes to his grandparents before and after school but they live about a mile away from the centre of town and are going to have to move within the next few months, no idea where...plus they're getting older and it's getting to be a bit much for them.

I believe I'm autistic and possibly have ADHD, so all of this is getting on top of me as a single parent with another child at home with an EHCP and EOTAS. His dad lives in another county and has zero interest in this process apart from being an every other weekend fun dad. I'm a teacher, have been for 23 years, I love it and obviously have 'inside knowledge' but I'm still so stressed with it all..I know I don't actually have to decide until after the 16th October when we get the 11+ results but unfortunately I can't make my brain work like that, I can't switch off.

I have the following choices for schools...

School A, grammar, 1100 students but adding another form in 2027. A 45 mins bus ride away, just one bus a day so if he missed it no way of getting there, or me dropping him to somewhere on my way to work really early so he can walk the rest, about 2miles. Buses home are much more complicated. Nightmare to drive to, traffic etc, wrong side of town. Very well thought of, not superselective but does the ebacc and seems to have reduced art music drama and computing to give to English lessons in ks3. So those more fun lessons are lacking, which would give him the brain breaks he needs. Worries me that they don't support the arts. Very very hot on attendance (he's struggling with school attendance a little but he's more worried about getting into trouble so he goes) does have good support for SEND, however the send dept/breakout spaces are next to the music rooms in a porta cabin, he probably would avoid it because of noise. Not many green outside spaces, which calm him and help him through the day, but the odd outside spa e to sit and eat (he won't eat in a hall, too busy, too dirty, too noisy)

School B, grammar, in fairly rough town 12 miles away...my school. I've been there 17 years. We are excellent for SEND, good rating, not superselective and because of the demographic (very culturally diverse, quite deprived in areas but also some very posh villages) we have a real mix. He knows lots of staff, we offer Lego therapy, a counsellor with a dog, lots of green spaces. Lots of nerdy boys and also some very alpha male types, some misbehaviour....the cool kids tend to ignore the tribes of kids different to them. not super strict, academic but I would say it's very caring. Big though, 1400, but 400 in 6th form in a separate block mostly. But...I work 4 days, he would have to get a train or a bus the other day, or my partner who stays once a week and works at my school (and who he loves, he isn't a teacher but does support the send kids) could drive him in, or I would have to do it..it's only a 25 min drive on a good day. He wouldn't know any other kids and he wouldn't have a lot of independence about getting to or from school and if I'm not in for any reason I'd still have to take him (for example if I was out visiting another school or on a course). I know the staff would look after him and we don't have the same surname, plus loads of teachers have kids there, generally no problems. Main thing is they're not going to try to fine me or take me to court if he struggles and can't go, the head understands my situation and has supported me throughout my daughter's issues. He would get Friday afternoons off, but would have to wait for me. Sometimes he'd have to wait for me at the end of the day, but could hang out in clubs or do homework. I could go back full time, but not until his sister has done GCSEs at the end of his year 7.
Close to his dad's route to collect him/his sister on a Friday EOW, so I could then stay at my partner's house and would get more time to myself. Lots of pros and cons, but I think he'd be a good fit. He would definitely get a place, plus my partner lives there and we could possibly consider moving that way, I'm not sure about that though. I'm unlikely to leave, unless I retire at 55 but he'd be finishing 6th form then.

Comps....

I've got very little choice. Nearest two schools have last offered distances which are well under our distance. Poor behaviour in one, very big, old buildings with tiny corridors, senco has been less than helpful. Big trust and I actually just have a bad feeling about the trust and the schools, but he could walk it very easily. Very arty too and quite a lot of green spaces around the site.

A comp...Next one closest might not offer either, very popular and possibly just a bit too far away at 2.3 miles. It's a drop into town and walk, or bus and walk, about 40 mins walk. Again only one bus a day and not directly. SENCO lovely, I know some staff and students, heard nothing but good things, green spaces, old tired buildings but all separate blocks so he would get lots of movement breaks in between lessons. Arts Very well supported. Very supportive of send, plus a grammar stream. Big though, 1500...some of that is 6th form.

After that are the definitely getting a place as they are so undersubscribed...

B comp....5 miles away, very small, 600 kids, but a 5min train and 20- 30 mins walk either side, plus he'd need to be dropped off somewhere to do the walk. Potentially could be collected from the train though. Seemed great, good Ofsted, sort of on my way to work, ish, but would make my journey quite stressful and would mean he would be there v early an waiting at the end of the day. Good send provision, sensory room, which he loves at primary. Not many clubs after school and not a massive range of GCSE subjects.

C comp is a very long bus ride but again I'd have to drop him at the bus stop in town, then try to get to work...would be tight. fantastic head, great for send, lovely big open spaces in the corridors, art is valued, they do forest school and other things on a Friday afternoon, my oldest friend works there so he could go to hers to wait to be collected by me at the end of the day potentially. Definitely improving from a few years ago but no 6th form. Very deprived area though, properly rough. Like worst poverty and crime for quite a distance rough...nice areas directly around it, but they go to the much better thought of sister comp.

D comp...Last option, a school I used to work at a very long time ago, small again, 700 kids, really bad reputation, but I do again know lots of the staff. Big churchy trust but we are definitely not religious. No 6th form, very limited GCSE offer, one bus a day or dropped off and very long walk (on the same site as the grammar) no green spaces at all. Big tarmac playgrounds. SENCO is chaotic but good hearted. There is an autism resource unit though, but he wouldn't qualify as no EHCP. Very undersubscribed so he would get a place.

After that I've got nothing...

If he didn't get a place at any of those it's hopeless, he'd probably be offered something in the adjacent county (Medway) and transport would be a nightmare. So I have to put down the least worst options if he doesn't pass. I'm also worried that he might pass but the academic pressure might be too much for him at a grammar. My school is great but there are a few older established staff members who just see send as poor behaviour I think, despite loads of training and support. Generally they're great and caring etc, but as in every school, some just are in teaching too long and are a bit jaded I think. I do know them all very well though....I could warn him to not cross them!

But then he doesn't misbehave...he just keeps his head down, barely speaks, fawns and masks then lets it all out at me at home..!

Any bus journey would cost me £600 a year for a pass. He's never every gone anywhere independently, let alone on a bus or train. The thought gives me palpitations to be honest! But that could change with time and lots of preparation. My fear is if the travel to a school is tricky he just would refuse to go, or if he found school exhausting, the travel might just be the last straw. Then again it might help him to decompress if it's just a walk.

I'm so sorry that was so long, if you have got to the end and have any thoughts or questions then kudos to you 🤦 but this is what is in my brain every waking hour currently...I'm traumatised by my daughters experience I think, secondary is where the wheels fell off for her. Very scared of it happening again.

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stomachamelon · 08/10/2025 21:36

I agree with the ‘ your school’ votes.
I am a teacher (Sen) and my sons (x3) attended selective and super selectives grammars in Kent. They all ended up in SEN schools locally by year nine and stayed until 18. Two went to university.

By that I mean, the best laid plans can come awry. You can only make the choices with the info you have and how he is now as a LOT can change when hormones hit.

Icantpeopleanymore · 08/10/2025 21:36

Thank you all, I really appreciate it. I'm trying to answer everyone if I can but DS is still bloody awake and has just announced (by pointing and meowing 🤦🤷) that he needs a poo. Honestly my life. Another issue, he refuses to go at school and has constipation..

I think in my gut I know it would be best for him, but I think the way my brain works I like to overthink it and worry about the worst possible outcome (him not passing) and then I can kind of prepare myself if that makes sense?

I'm just resigned to worry for the next week until results are out now!

@theresapossuminthekitchen I hadn't considered I could appeal for our closest but the best comp too actually if he doesn't get grammar. Even if not, the smaller school with the sensory room etc isn't the worst journey, although it's not great either. If he gets that one I'm going to have to get on lots of trains with him for the next year...
Did you find it hard to keep it separate, work and your child? And how is it now with your DS?
I think I'm just worried that it's not going to be separate enough...I think just making it clear to him, and other staff, that they'd need to try not to stop me in the corridors etc with small stuff but contact me outside of school might have to be a rule...it kind of is unspoken anyway for staff with kids there but I think it's more important if they have additional needs

@pizzaHeart I can take him on my day off, it probably would take me an hour twice a day in total on a very good day, but it's the only day I get with my daughter to get her out of the house, I have to take her to an activity and a walk, otherwise she doesn't leave the house. It's already such a busy day, I get an hour at home at the most until we are all back from school etc, then it's dinner, work for me on the laptop...My partner has already said he'd try to stay at mine the night before though and go in early to take him in, so it would just be picking up, and he might stay for a club or something so I don't have to do it at school run time.

i hadn't considered the fact that I can sort out lost equipment, forgotten lunch etc easily, although it definitely will feel like two jobs! He likes the subject I teach and it's a bit of a safe space for lots of our ND boys anyway at lunchtime, so he'd be totally accepted there.

Part of my daughter's issues were to do with losing stuff, getting lost on the way home, not having anywhere to go at lunchtimes...I think had she had that maybe things would have gone better.

@Littlelollipops absolutely, it's not perfect and I can see great things about other schools too, it's just it's better the devil you know sometimes...they wouldn't treat me any differently, absolutely, and to be clear, I don't know of any parents who have been fined or where it's got to that stage ever, we do have kids with poor attendance because of send needs or other issues and they've absolutely done their best to support them as far as I'm aware. I think there's always the fear that another school might not though and I couldn't cope with that worry if he ended up going the same way as my daughter.

@Nanamuffin yes! Exactly. I make do many tiny decisions all day every day off the cuff and I'm so used to it...when it comes to things like this I just can't! Decision fatigue?
I do think the travel could break him, the noise, strangers etc. at least this way I can get him to school and still work, when my daughter attended school I would have to drop her off an hour before it opened, go to work, then collect her, often sitting in school traffic after running out the door with the kids, to find her sitting in the rain waiting for me. Broke my heart but she just couldn't walk to and from home anymore, she was exhausted by everything. Taxis are impossible unfortunately, every firm for miles around does school transport. I know, I phoned every single one when my daughter couldn't manage the walk! But, my dad is retired so could be persuaded to drive him if necessary, there's a train or bus to a town not far away too, or to a couple of other places actually, plus there's about 6 members of staff who might help me out if he needed a lift in an emergency...if I got deathly ill for any length of time (who am I kidding, I don't have the time to be ill!) then my partner would stay and help, in the worst case scenario his dad would have to step up and bloody drive him from his place, it's a 40 min drive.

I'm just going to try to put it all out of my mind now I've seen them all and got as much information as I can from websites etc, until next Thursday anyway! I think the best comp so far has been A, plus it's walking distance sort of, which could be made a bit easier somehow. Then it's going to have to be a lot of trying the bus/train routes to the other two we liked I think to see if either could work if he doesn't pass, or if it's so borderline I don't think it's a good idea. Saying that, I know we have kids that are tutored for years and they manage academically once we have them.

Thank you all, lots of great views and help.

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Icantpeopleanymore · 08/10/2025 21:57

@stomachamelon you have my utmost respect, being a SEN teacher. I know we could be in for a rocky few years. I think DD needed a SEN school really but it was all too late for her. He's so similar but also I know about his issues earlier and I can hopefully deal with it better. If things have to change I've done it before, I can manage again, it's not the end of the world. I just need to give him the best chances I think.

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stomachamelon · 08/10/2025 22:34

Will dm you.

pizzaHeart · 08/10/2025 23:08

I would choose from the position that life at secondary for him will be more difficult and more complicated. Secondary is challenging for many, for children with additional needs it’s a particular challenge. I wouldn’t count on him staying at a club after school or doing long complicated travel. He will need to process a lot of things during the day and cope with a lot of tasks so you need to choose the easiest possible option.
From this point of view your school sounds better than others.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 08/10/2025 23:37

pizzaHeart · 08/10/2025 23:08

I would choose from the position that life at secondary for him will be more difficult and more complicated. Secondary is challenging for many, for children with additional needs it’s a particular challenge. I wouldn’t count on him staying at a club after school or doing long complicated travel. He will need to process a lot of things during the day and cope with a lot of tasks so you need to choose the easiest possible option.
From this point of view your school sounds better than others.

I was going to say something similar.

My ND child is exhausted after school and being able to walk home in 15 minutes - or play with friends in the park en route to blow off steam - is something I highly value.

Honestly - GCSE options and 6th form are so far down my priority list. I want him to feel safe, have friends, and feel seen as my priorities. Currently his very average school is fulfilling all three brilliantly.

Arlanymor · 08/10/2025 23:47

Your school; 100%.

Icantpeopleanymore · 08/10/2025 23:50

@Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself I wish we had something closer, we moved here when he was 1, split with my husband in lockdown, I chose to stay as moving the kids then was too difficult to contemplate...I just didn't realise how difficult it would be to get him into our closest schools, but the distances have become so small in recent years, there was one new secondary that opened in 2021 and it takes kids from 0.8 miles away at most. Completely crazy. So unfortunately I'm going to have to try to make the best of it, he would be happy enough in the car, playing on his tablet or a phone I guess on the trip home. Eventually once he's settled somewhere I'll consider moving closer to wherever that is I think.
The local ish grammar is totally free one, but I just think the lack of art etc will mean he's not necessarily going to enjoy the first 3 years at least, and that'll be the crunch time I think.

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Icantpeopleanymore · 16/10/2025 16:30

Well just to update, he's passed, with a very decent score, which I'm delighted about, considering he didn't get any tutoring, we only did one CGP book to get ready.

Just to decide between the two grammar schools now really, I did like all the secondary schools locally but it's just the travel and the difficulty of buses etc, plus the limited distance they seem to take from meaning he would end up with a long journey.

Still keep swinging between them both, but I wasn't keen on the other option as it didn't have any outside spaces, DS didn't like it even as much as the other schools.

If he decides on mine he'll know straight away which is another bonus, he likes to know what's going to happen in advance..

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