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To think being a “nice guy” is often just repressed entitlement?

52 replies

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 11:55

They’re not nice - they’re just scared to be rejected, and when they are, it all comes out.

OP posts:
luckylavender · 05/10/2025 11:56

Not all guys are the same surely

MrsNadjaCravensworth · 05/10/2025 11:56

In my experience anyone who feels the need to tell you they are a nice guy is definitely not a nice guy.

It's a definite red flag.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 05/10/2025 12:01

Yes, anyone who describes themselves as a nice guy is an absolute fucking psycho who wants sex from you but isnt man enough to seduce you so resorts to making you feel like a bad person for not wanting their short unattractive weak selves.

SadOldLadyOfTheLowlands · 05/10/2025 12:03

Some will be

But equally some won't be

PollyBell · 05/10/2025 12:04

So every nice guy in the planet is one collective and is exactly the same as the next one? Does it work the same for all women are they all one brain?

Brightbluesomething · 05/10/2025 12:06

Bit of a generalisation there.

JHound · 05/10/2025 12:06

You will need to explain what you mean by “Nice Guy (TM)” as everytime a post like this is made many posters misunderstand it.

Edit: I see that’s already happening!

Uppitywoman · 05/10/2025 12:06

No, not at all. Some people are just nice. Men and women.

MySaintedPuppy · 05/10/2025 12:09

NiceGuys know the rules. They are civilised. They know which hoops to jump through in order to get the sex they are entitled to.

NiceGuys aren’t simply ‘blokes who are really nice’, by the way. It’s a different vibe.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 05/10/2025 12:10

MySaintedPuppy · 05/10/2025 12:09

NiceGuys know the rules. They are civilised. They know which hoops to jump through in order to get the sex they are entitled to.

NiceGuys aren’t simply ‘blokes who are really nice’, by the way. It’s a different vibe.

This - they've sat down, thought, okay i'm not hot or charismatic or rich

So I will have to manipulate women to sleep with me, whilst keeping up the appearance of being nice.

Give me a prick any day, at least you know where you stand with them

Swiftie1878 · 05/10/2025 12:10

Harsh!

AintNoPunshineWhenShesGone · 05/10/2025 12:10

You have a terribly bigoted view of around half of the world's population OP.

Have you sought any kind of help?

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 12:11

PollyBell · 05/10/2025 12:04

So every nice guy in the planet is one collective and is exactly the same as the next one? Does it work the same for all women are they all one brain?

No, I’m not saying every man is kind of secretly entitled. I’m talking about a specific brand of nice guy, the one who believes being polite or helpful entitles him to affection, sex or relationship. When that doesn’t happen, the mask slips.

It’s less about all men and more about a recurring dynamic that some of us have encountered again and again. If that’s not your experience, fair enough but it doesn’t mean it’s not real.

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OrangeSunsetSkies · 05/10/2025 12:11

Surely everyone fears rejection to a degree?

mumofoneAloneandwell · 05/10/2025 12:11
mhmm GIF

Not at all speaking from experience!

🤭

AintNoPunshineWhenShesGone · 05/10/2025 12:13

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 12:11

No, I’m not saying every man is kind of secretly entitled. I’m talking about a specific brand of nice guy, the one who believes being polite or helpful entitles him to affection, sex or relationship. When that doesn’t happen, the mask slips.

It’s less about all men and more about a recurring dynamic that some of us have encountered again and again. If that’s not your experience, fair enough but it doesn’t mean it’s not real.

Edited

So you've completely re-written it?

Might be better to scrap the thread and start one with an opening post containing the words you actually mean.

Unless of course you don't think it would be clickbait enough?

TwistedWonder · 05/10/2025 12:13

There are genuinely nice guys out there but they’re the ones who don’t feel the need to announce to the world what a nice bloke they are.

The ones who tell you upfront how nice they are usually they at all

TheFoodLife · 05/10/2025 12:13

Cynical and tedious ill written post.

Swiftie1878 · 05/10/2025 12:14

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 12:11

No, I’m not saying every man is kind of secretly entitled. I’m talking about a specific brand of nice guy, the one who believes being polite or helpful entitles him to affection, sex or relationship. When that doesn’t happen, the mask slips.

It’s less about all men and more about a recurring dynamic that some of us have encountered again and again. If that’s not your experience, fair enough but it doesn’t mean it’s not real.

Edited

Hmmm.. think you’re projecting a little?
Sorry you’ve had a tough time with relationships. Please be reassured that there are some genuinely nice guys out there. 🩵

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 12:17

AintNoPunshineWhenShesGone · 05/10/2025 12:10

You have a terribly bigoted view of around half of the world's population OP.

Have you sought any kind of help?

Edited

That’s quite a leap. Pointing out a pattern of behaviour some women have experienced, where certain men use performative niceness to mask entitlement, is not the same as being bigoted against all men. It’s a critique of a mindset, not a blanket statement about half the population. If we can’t discuss unhealthy dynamics without being accused of hating an entire gender, something’s gone very wrong.

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NoraLuka · 05/10/2025 12:19

Anyone (man or woman) who tells you how nice they are generally isn’t, IME. See also honest guys, reliable guys, etc. If they genuinely had these qualities they wouldn’t need to say anything because their actions would speak for themselves.

Oaktreet · 05/10/2025 12:20

There isn't enough info here to have the faintest idea what you are getting at.

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 12:20

OrangeSunsetSkies · 05/10/2025 12:11

Surely everyone fears rejection to a degree?

Fear or rejection is human but what I’m talking about it different. It’s when someone hides behind “niceness” not because they’re kind but because they expect sometime in return, like access, attention or romance, and get resentful when it doesn’t come. That’s not just fear of rejection, that’s transactional entitlement in disguise.

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AintNoPunshineWhenShesGone · 05/10/2025 12:22

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 12:17

That’s quite a leap. Pointing out a pattern of behaviour some women have experienced, where certain men use performative niceness to mask entitlement, is not the same as being bigoted against all men. It’s a critique of a mindset, not a blanket statement about half the population. If we can’t discuss unhealthy dynamics without being accused of hating an entire gender, something’s gone very wrong.

This is what went wrong...

"AIBU To think being a “nice guy” is often just repressed entitlement?"

"They’re not nice - they’re just scared to be rejected, and when they are, it all comes out."

That statement of yours was 100% bigoted.

Something you wrote about roughly half the world's population.

Talipesmum · 05/10/2025 12:22

WrySilverDrake · 05/10/2025 12:11

No, I’m not saying every man is kind of secretly entitled. I’m talking about a specific brand of nice guy, the one who believes being polite or helpful entitles him to affection, sex or relationship. When that doesn’t happen, the mask slips.

It’s less about all men and more about a recurring dynamic that some of us have encountered again and again. If that’s not your experience, fair enough but it doesn’t mean it’s not real.

Edited

Yes, “nice guys” who aren’t actually nice guys, aren’t nice guys.

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