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No TV before school?!

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Tireddadplus · 03/10/2025 08:41

Hi! Just got a message from our DD’s (5yo) school that we should not let the kids watch any tv before school! Bad for their brains or something…

DD watches a bit of tv while myself or DW sort out lunches or whatever…just makes getting out the door easier!

Am i being unreasonable to ignore this advice?

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warmapplepies · 08/10/2025 17:00

Jade3450 · 08/10/2025 12:24

I’d love to see that.

Lots of things might feel ‘helpful’ in quietening down an agitated kid. That isn’t the same as them being useful in the long term.

I won’t derail the thread any more, but just to say: autism is a lifelong condition. Teaching emotional regulation is far more beneficial in the long term than dampening the temporary dysregulation with screens.

Have a google then - nobody is stopping you.

Yes, I know autism is lifelong. I am autistic. And screens are a lifesaver to me - I am so much better regulated now I can access a screen when I need to.

Jade3450 · 08/10/2025 22:51

warmapplepies · 08/10/2025 17:00

Have a google then - nobody is stopping you.

Yes, I know autism is lifelong. I am autistic. And screens are a lifesaver to me - I am so much better regulated now I can access a screen when I need to.

Ok.

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 04:05

warmapplepies · 07/10/2025 21:24

Actually, there’s a fair bit of research that shows screens can be very helpful for people who are neurodiverse.

Maybe you should do some reading on the subject before jumping in to criticise.

Strangely it seems the more screens available the More ND people are diagnosed as well

Wonder how all these ND people who ," need" screens to " regulate," managed before the abundance of them?

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 06:32

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 04:05

Strangely it seems the more screens available the More ND people are diagnosed as well

Wonder how all these ND people who ," need" screens to " regulate," managed before the abundance of them?

Edited

TV has been around since the 1930s although most families didn't have a set until the 50s.
1953 was a popular year for getting TVs due to the Queens Coronation. That's 72 years ago.
Neurodiverse people were also around 72 years ago but frequently they were hidden away in institutions. They didn't "manage" to regulate because they were locked away out of sight.
🙄

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 06:36

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 06:32

TV has been around since the 1930s although most families didn't have a set until the 50s.
1953 was a popular year for getting TVs due to the Queens Coronation. That's 72 years ago.
Neurodiverse people were also around 72 years ago but frequently they were hidden away in institutions. They didn't "manage" to regulate because they were locked away out of sight.
🙄

Many of us kids didn't have tv in the 70s and 80s. My own DDs didn't have one in the 90s. I don't think " most" people had tv in the 50s

And I'm not sure kids programmes were shown before school dither

spoonbillstretford · 11/10/2025 06:40

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 06:36

Many of us kids didn't have tv in the 70s and 80s. My own DDs didn't have one in the 90s. I don't think " most" people had tv in the 50s

And I'm not sure kids programmes were shown before school dither

Edited

In my experience in the 1980s I only met one child in my class who did not have a TV at home. We bonded over TV programmes, as everyone watched the same things then, so this made socialising hard for him.

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 07:16

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 06:36

Many of us kids didn't have tv in the 70s and 80s. My own DDs didn't have one in the 90s. I don't think " most" people had tv in the 50s

And I'm not sure kids programmes were shown before school dither

Edited

It was VERY unusual for people not to have a TV in the 70s/80s.
Can't speak for the 70s but the 80s was when morning TV became a "thing".
I watched Roland Rat in the mornings. He was on after the Green Goddess exercise slot - which I joined in with.
(even more unusual for you not to have a TV in the 90s 🤔)

tripleginandtonic · 11/10/2025 07:29

Tireddadplus · 03/10/2025 08:41

Hi! Just got a message from our DD’s (5yo) school that we should not let the kids watch any tv before school! Bad for their brains or something…

DD watches a bit of tv while myself or DW sort out lunches or whatever…just makes getting out the door easier!

Am i being unreasonable to ignore this advice?

You're the parent, it's up to you. My dc were up at 5 30 so did watch some kids programmes then. They got excellent exam results.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/10/2025 07:44

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 04:05

Strangely it seems the more screens available the More ND people are diagnosed as well

Wonder how all these ND people who ," need" screens to " regulate," managed before the abundance of them?

Edited

FFS 🤦‍♀️

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 07:51

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/10/2025 07:44

FFS 🤦‍♀️

What's that for? Surely it's a reasonable question on what happened with regulation before constant screens. So u either know the answer or have something to say but obviously not got the language skills to type words rather than resorting to silly pics

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 07:56

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 07:16

It was VERY unusual for people not to have a TV in the 70s/80s.
Can't speak for the 70s but the 80s was when morning TV became a "thing".
I watched Roland Rat in the mornings. He was on after the Green Goddess exercise slot - which I joined in with.
(even more unusual for you not to have a TV in the 90s 🤔)

Edited

Lol I no longer have one today now the kids moved out. No need

But only certain friends houses had tvs when I was a kid. Same with house phones

My ex who is def ND born in 60s ( he was called aspie though)didn't have tv as a child either. But could spend hours researching stuff in library if it interested him. And ake huge playlists of music on tape etc.

But no tv before school. Even if they'd have had one his mum would not have allowed it and he's very rule abiding

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/10/2025 08:22

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 07:51

What's that for? Surely it's a reasonable question on what happened with regulation before constant screens. So u either know the answer or have something to say but obviously not got the language skills to type words rather than resorting to silly pics

😂😂 because you’re now blaming screens on ND diagnoses.

in the “olden days”, many people were either not recognised as being ND and instead labelled naughty (or similar), or institutionalised. We are now more aware of their needs.

You’re also placing “need” and “regulate” into quotation marks meaning you are still undermining the people who do need to regulate via a screen or similar.

Also - I love a silly picture 🤪🤪🤪

GagMeWithASpoon · 11/10/2025 08:31

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 04:05

Strangely it seems the more screens available the More ND people are diagnosed as well

Wonder how all these ND people who ," need" screens to " regulate," managed before the abundance of them?

Edited

Define manage. Going through the decades , some were institutionalised or hidden away in some other manner, some were never educated (uneducables) , some were in special schools, some never left their home, some were beaten into submission, some were shunned , some were locked away , some ended up homeless or dead , some never made it past childhood , some had interests /methods of regulation that were also frowned upon and so on.

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 09:10

GagMeWithASpoon · 11/10/2025 08:31

Define manage. Going through the decades , some were institutionalised or hidden away in some other manner, some were never educated (uneducables) , some were in special schools, some never left their home, some were beaten into submission, some were shunned , some were locked away , some ended up homeless or dead , some never made it past childhood , some had interests /methods of regulation that were also frowned upon and so on.

And done I know went through school, got jobs bought houses etc.

GagMeWithASpoon · 11/10/2025 09:27

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 09:10

And done I know went through school, got jobs bought houses etc.

Well of course, because no ND person is exactly the same and needs the same things or has the exact same struggles or has the exact same presentation and “symptoms”.

Just like with a physical illness. Type one diabetes for example, each child has their individual care plan , with their individual symptoms , treatment and requirements. I wouldn’t give Jimmy a bag if haribos because that’s what Suzie has in a hypo. I also wouldn’t refuse to call mum /allow recovery time for Ellie because Tommy is fine and doesn’t need it. I manage the kid in front of me based on their needs.

GagMeWithASpoon · 11/10/2025 10:40

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 07:56

Lol I no longer have one today now the kids moved out. No need

But only certain friends houses had tvs when I was a kid. Same with house phones

My ex who is def ND born in 60s ( he was called aspie though)didn't have tv as a child either. But could spend hours researching stuff in library if it interested him. And ake huge playlists of music on tape etc.

But no tv before school. Even if they'd have had one his mum would not have allowed it and he's very rule abiding

What would your ex have done before free access to libraries and cassette tapes/recorders/radio were available?

Those interests/methods of regulation /escapism(which you seem to deem worthy) would’ve been just as frowned upon in their day . Because there was always something more productive, socially acceptable, worthy to be done.

My mum had her radio listening habits restricted, despite doing chores at the same time, so quite productive really.

warmapplepies · 11/10/2025 10:43

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 04:05

Strangely it seems the more screens available the More ND people are diagnosed as well

Wonder how all these ND people who ," need" screens to " regulate," managed before the abundance of them?

Edited

Yeah, my autism came from the TV, not the fact that pretty much every single generation of my dad's side of the family is autistic too Hmm

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 11:15

warmapplepies · 11/10/2025 10:43

Yeah, my autism came from the TV, not the fact that pretty much every single generation of my dad's side of the family is autistic too Hmm

Now where did I say that the autism was caused by the tv? The amount of people on here that can't read!!!

I asked how did people with it regulate before screens

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 11:15

GagMeWithASpoon · 11/10/2025 10:40

What would your ex have done before free access to libraries and cassette tapes/recorders/radio were available?

Those interests/methods of regulation /escapism(which you seem to deem worthy) would’ve been just as frowned upon in their day . Because there was always something more productive, socially acceptable, worthy to be done.

My mum had her radio listening habits restricted, despite doing chores at the same time, so quite productive really.

I don't know That's the whole point of the question isn't it?

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 11:17

GagMeWithASpoon · 11/10/2025 09:27

Well of course, because no ND person is exactly the same and needs the same things or has the exact same struggles or has the exact same presentation and “symptoms”.

Just like with a physical illness. Type one diabetes for example, each child has their individual care plan , with their individual symptoms , treatment and requirements. I wouldn’t give Jimmy a bag if haribos because that’s what Suzie has in a hypo. I also wouldn’t refuse to call mum /allow recovery time for Ellie because Tommy is fine and doesn’t need it. I manage the kid in front of me based on their needs.

So why quote the worst affected people's behaviours then?

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 11:19

@RubySquid you must have grown up in an unusual area where "many people" didn't have TV.
In fact it was more likely in the 70s/80s that people had a TV compared to now because people tend to watch TV on tablets or their phones these days.
You said you have no TV. Actually... neither do I anymore. Ours broke but we realised we were watching on our phones more so we haven't replaced it.
Do you ever watch anything (via iPlayer, Netflix etc).
There's some good stuff out there.

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 11:20

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 11:15

Now where did I say that the autism was caused by the tv? The amount of people on here that can't read!!!

I asked how did people with it regulate before screens

They didn't regulate because they were usually stuck in an institution.
Yaay olden days were brilliant.... weren't they?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 11/10/2025 11:26

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 07:16

It was VERY unusual for people not to have a TV in the 70s/80s.
Can't speak for the 70s but the 80s was when morning TV became a "thing".
I watched Roland Rat in the mornings. He was on after the Green Goddess exercise slot - which I joined in with.
(even more unusual for you not to have a TV in the 90s 🤔)

Edited

We had a year with no TV in the '90s. I wasn't that unusual. London childhood FWIW.

Needmorelego · 11/10/2025 11:28

Neurodiversitydoctor · 11/10/2025 11:26

We had a year with no TV in the '90s. I wasn't that unusual. London childhood FWIW.

The only people I know that never had a TV were part of strict religious groups like the Brethren.
I'm sorry but it was unusual in the 90s.
Most household had at least one TV.

GagMeWithASpoon · 11/10/2025 11:29

RubySquid · 11/10/2025 11:17

So why quote the worst affected people's behaviours then?

Because your bias is showing.

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