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Does anyone else find the concept of sleep mental?

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vivi45 · 02/10/2025 22:58

Probably a very weird thought process but I’m just laying here, ready to go to sleep thinking how strange it is that we spend so much of our life unconscious. If I sleep from 11pm-7am which is normal for me, I will have slept the equivalent of my work day. All of the things I’ve done during the day, meals I’ve eaten, people I’ve spoken to, places I’ve been - and I’ll spend that same amount of time just laid in bed asleep. Also find it weird how the world just carries on while we are oblivious to it.

Sorry I know this is incredibly random 😂

OP posts:
Clockface222 · 03/10/2025 07:14

Tezza1 · 03/10/2025 05:21

Perhaps the ongoing necessity for sleep was part of natural selection. The vulnerability during sleep may have played a part in encouraging the development and continuing existance of a necessary communal feel, which had payoffs in so many other areas of social development.

Or maybe not.

Anyway I would not trade the wallowing luxury of a good sleep for many things. I now suffer from insomnia and so, so miss earlier days when I was delighted to wake up to have to go to the toilet at 4am because I knew I had the luxury of going back to sleep, and always did.

I would have thought the opposite, that sleep makes us so vulnerable that evolution should have selected in favour of those who needed less sleep. The fact that it didn't points to its vital importance in maintaining brain function and restoration.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 03/10/2025 07:22

SnugglyJumpersMakeItBetter · 03/10/2025 00:09

How did I make it to 36 without even realising the September=seven, October = 8 etc thing?!! That's crazy! Also, who decided that February would only get 28/29n days while other months get 31? Why not make Feb 30/31 and lop a day each off January and March?

There's a really good book called The Calendar by David Ewing Duncan about how we ended up with the calendar we've got. The seven day week is truly ancient and comes from the Babylonians who based it on the seven main celestial objects they knew of. The development of the annual calendar is way more complicated as the year isn't an exact number of days long and so there were successive attempts to try to correct for it.

SliceofTosst · 03/10/2025 07:25

Yes. I think about it being strange too. How we have a specific room for it and buy a bed, pillows and sheets we like, specifically for our sleeping time.

Then we get up and crack on for a busy day while other further away countries are mid sleep.

PrawnPringles · 03/10/2025 07:26

have you actually read about sleep? I read such a good book about it a while ago (don’t even really know why I chose it?) but it was soooooo interesting - the science of it, stages of it, why we’ve evolved like that.

I’ll try and find it

SingtotheCat · 03/10/2025 07:50

MajesticWhine · 02/10/2025 23:03

Imagine if someone invented an infusion or medicine or something that could mean you don’t need to sleep at all. Would you use it?

I think we would wear out more quickly and life expectancy would go down.
I love going to bed to read and sleep. My favourite part of the day, so I would only have the infusion when I was really busy and needed the extra time.

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 03/10/2025 07:52

As an exhausted insomniac, I dream (day dream) of being able to plug myself into a wall to charge up.

If I ever nap during the day (on the occasional weekend day) I will fall asleep within minutes. However, at night time, I wake up and feel quite hyper and it takes me hours to fall asleep. Why is my body clock so different to the one I really need in this society?

I don't think I am an insomniac actually, just someone with an awfully delayed sleep cycle that is not fit for this life.

Riverswims · 03/10/2025 07:55

very occasionally I get almost a fear of the moment I’ll become unconscious and fall asleep 🤔 but I love sleep it’s my favourite thing and I wouldn’t take an option to recharge while awake. I love sleep

Notthatgameagain · 03/10/2025 07:56

I read a book about this once. It said that there is a hormone that builds up throughout your waking day and when it gets to its limit you need to sleep. While you sleep it reduces, if you get enough sleep you wake up at zero again but if you don't then you may still feel tired. You also can't catch up on sleep. Sleeping an extra couple or hours at the weekend does not make up for missing sleep earlier in the week. Caffeine attaches to the same part of the brain as the hormone and it stops the hormone from being recognized but it still builds. This is why caffeine helps to stay awake, but when it wears off you feel the full force of the built up hormone rather than it building gradually and that's when you crash.

scalt · 03/10/2025 08:02

In a way, it's reassuring that most animals value sleep as much as we do: we're doing something right if we sleep as much as they do. It is a pity that we haven't developed a way to sleep standing up, like horses do.

I remember a couple of childhood moments I got really confused about sleep. After a day at school, I was ill, so I went to bed at 5 o' clock. When I woke, I saw it was 7 o' clock, and I felt better. I went down and had some breakfast, while everyone else seemed puzzled. It was a while before I realised that it was still evening, and I had assumed it was the following morning! Shock It was in spring, so still light outside (and probably dusk, but I thought it was dawn), and I was so confused.

Related to this, from a young age, I found the concept of being blindfolded mental: not so much for sleep, but for games and surprises. It's weird that one person can prevent another person from seeing anything, just like that, and even more weird is being spun round and disorientated, I remember thinking that while playing pin the tail as a child. On one rainy day, when I was nine or ten, I asked my parents to time how long I could stay blindfolded: they agreed as long as I stayed sitting in an armchair, and they used two scarves to cover my eyes. They told me afterwards that they checked carefully that I couldn't see at all, waving their hands in front of me, and shining a torch at my covered eyes to see if I reacted. I wondered why I could only see blackness and not the pattern on the scarf. I remember trying to visualise the room around me, noticing how it "faded" from my memory, and I tried very hard to "see" things. Then suddenly, I found I was seeing things very vividly. I had fallen asleep! After I woke, they asked me to guess how much time had passed. I don't remember what I guessed, but they told me it was an hour and a half.

FiguringLifeOutOneFuckUpAtATime · 03/10/2025 08:03

cakedup · 02/10/2025 23:29

Yes I think about this too, sleep is weird weird!

I don't understand when people say they love sleep though....maybe the lying down and relaxing bit but otherwise how can you love something you're not even conscious of??

Another thought just occurred to me, when I was in my 20s I went through a bout of terrible depression and I slept loads....I couldn't cope with life so I just slept for hours so i didnt have to deal with anything or feel depressed, it was like opting out.

Yes, sleep feels like escaping life!

I know when I'm struggling with my mental health I just want to hide in bed & avoid everything. I wasted so much time in my teens doing just that, depression sucks the life out of you.

itsgettingweird · 03/10/2025 08:03

Love it!!!!

It’s fantastic when we have these thoughts and process it in pieces.

I wish I spent as much time sleeping as I did working 🤣🤣

Needspaceforlego · 03/10/2025 08:07

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 03/10/2025 00:59

What I find weird is time. How it’s one time in the UK but a different time in other parts of the world, and also how it’s different seasons. So if you go west, you go back in time, but you go east and you go forward. What happens on the other side of the globe where east and west meet?

International date line, yes you can go back in time.

vivi45 · 03/10/2025 08:09

SliceofTosst · 03/10/2025 07:25

Yes. I think about it being strange too. How we have a specific room for it and buy a bed, pillows and sheets we like, specifically for our sleeping time.

Then we get up and crack on for a busy day while other further away countries are mid sleep.

Yes and this massive piece of furniture just for lying on.

Waking up to all of these comments is reassuring, I’m pleased it’s not just me who has all of these weird thoughts.

OP posts:
jumpingthehighjump · 03/10/2025 08:19

@MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption
I am EXACTLY the same as you. I've always been the same.
Sleep is a chore for me

BoudiccaRuled · 03/10/2025 09:02

Piknik · 02/10/2025 23:56

I spend an unreasonable amount of time imagining super-evolved aliens looking at earth and observing humans going about their lives. I always think they must find sleeping bizarre. Also dancing, singing and playing sports.

Edited

Which, now that you've drawn my attention to it, explains why in films aliens always pity us silly earthlings.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 03/10/2025 09:05

WrylyAmused · 02/10/2025 23:12

US govt/military created quite a lot of the recreational drugs industry by searching for this holy grail.

And also proved that sleep deprivation causes psychosis within a few days.

I like sleep. It's practice for being dead. The concept of functionally not existing for a while and then returning - I find that pretty mind blowing.

Edited

I really enjoy sleeping for its own sake too!

I don’t think I’d like not needing it.

KvotheTheBloodless · 03/10/2025 09:10

I would love to never have to sleep again! I could get SO much done!

PrawnPringles · 03/10/2025 09:47

I have Narcolepsy (but don’t really do the whole fall asleep when I laugh etc) and what can happen when sleep is interrupted is WILD! But so interesting

I can get sleep hallucinations where I’m falling asleep and I’m seeing a dream before I’m asleep like it’s in the room

I hear piano when I’m falling asleep

CRAZY dreams which I always remember

PinkArt · 03/10/2025 11:59

SnugglyJumpersMakeItBetter · 03/10/2025 00:05

Dreams are so bonkers!! I had the most realistic one the other night - a cat jumped through a cellar window with a massive koi Karp in it's mouth, still alive. It dropped the fish which I got in a bucket and went back and forth pouring water over so it could breathe, but I was aware that the more water I added to the bucket the heavier it would get until it would be too heavy for me to carry up the cellar steps. But I knew if I stopped pouring the water it would die. I have nothing to do with cellars, cats or fish. They just don't enter into my life in any way, and yet this dream was so vivid, down to the intricate pattern and shine of the koi Karp's scales! I felt so weird waking up after that. It probably signifies something really deep!

OP, sleep is a really odd concept! But then so is life generally. It hurts my brain if I think about it!

If you ignore the cat and the fish elements, what happened was something stressful was thrown at you, or you had a caring responsibility thrust at you. You had to juggle keeping the vulnerable fish alive with getting yourself and the fish out of the cellar.
You were in the cellar, rather than say an attic, so perhaps whatever the dream was processing was about hidden or repressed feelings. Or about something you think is keeping you down or holding you back.
Obviously I'm not asking you to actually answer here, but are you maybe feeling a bit overwhelmed looking after family at the moment? Or taking on a lot of responsibility at work? Or feeling like you're fighting to keep a relationship alive? Is there a situation when it feels like no matter how much effort you put in, it's impossible to resolve because of conflicting needs?
I know some people think dream analysis is bollocks, but usually once you take the literal out of a dream, you can get a clearer sense of what your brain was trying to help you process.

Pricelessadvice · 03/10/2025 15:39

PrawnPringles · 03/10/2025 09:47

I have Narcolepsy (but don’t really do the whole fall asleep when I laugh etc) and what can happen when sleep is interrupted is WILD! But so interesting

I can get sleep hallucinations where I’m falling asleep and I’m seeing a dream before I’m asleep like it’s in the room

I hear piano when I’m falling asleep

CRAZY dreams which I always remember

Hello fellow narcoleptic!

MysticalBiscuit · 03/10/2025 15:46

socks1107 · 02/10/2025 23:03

What I find weird is that whole roads, blocks of flats, hotels and everyone inside is asleep! Everyone oblivious to the world. Bizarre

I find it weird that people built all of those blocks of flats, brick by brick! Crazy when you think about it, even though it's obvious.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 03/10/2025 15:51

MajesticWhine · 02/10/2025 23:03

Imagine if someone invented an infusion or medicine or something that could mean you don’t need to sleep at all. Would you use it?

Nooo, I have very vivid dreams every night and I love it

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 03/10/2025 16:17

I’m sorry @blackheartsgirl Flowers

Needspaceforlego · 03/10/2025 16:17

MysticalBiscuit · 03/10/2025 15:46

I find it weird that people built all of those blocks of flats, brick by brick! Crazy when you think about it, even though it's obvious.

My crazy thought is sandstone buildings and the craftsmanship that went into everything the stonework, the plaster coving, the woodfloors, all without modern scaffolding and hoists etc.
And all those men who built them are long dead yet their work lives on.

XWKD · 03/10/2025 16:37

Yes sleeping is bizarre.

I find the concept of countries weird, especially the idea of "loving" them. "I love my side of this arbitrary border." I mean WTF?

When I was growing up I thought the weirdest idea was ownership. If it's yours and then it's mine, but nothing about the thing has changed, what makes it yours or mine in the first place? I'm probably making it sound more philosophical than it was, given that I'm telling it in my dotage.