To think putting vat on private healthcare when many people use it because the NHS won't treat them is monstrously cruel

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I know so many people who have had to pay for cancer diagnostics or new joints because they couldn't obtain care from the NHS. Not rich people - people who have to take out bank loans to fund it.

What is wrong with labour.

My plumber/baker/hairdresser all charge me vat…why not a private health care provider?
And just wait til Nigel Fartage and his deform lot get any power….NHS…it’ll be a long past distant dream, No money then you’ll just have to suffer!

Not till the end of November.

That's an eye opener and shows that they really cannot justify not applying it to potentially higher revenue sources. That's of course if raising money is their aim rather than just the spiteful politics of envy 🙄

The NHS use private healthcare for patients when the waiting lists get out of hand. Cataracts in our health board last year. Also when they've cocked up on a treatment and fear being sued they shuffle them off to the private sector.

Well yes. This is true too.

welfare is ridiculously high. I know someone on benefits, has been for twenty years at this point. During that time she’s run various businesses but never enough to disqualify her from the benefits she receives. She currently spends her days over a sewing machine making clothes for people. You’re telling me she couldn’t do an office job?

Not all DC in independent schools with EHCPs have their placement funded by the LA. Some do, but some don’t because the parents are making their own arrangements.

And not all DC in independent SS have EHCPs. The vast majority do, but not all. Some independent SS accept self funders.

Thanks.

I don’t know what it’s going to take to turn to growth.

Good news is that hopefully it will be ok for my kids. I swear I have lived through 20 years of retraction. Surely it cannot continue lest we end up one giant slum.

You do realise that reform want to get rid of the nhs and make us pay insurance. That will be everyone paying more and probably won’t improve the service. It’s extra tax by a different name.

Yep. I’m sacking mine off as it’s bloody useless. At least I’ll pay a bit less tax each month.

It’s just been emphatically ruled out. YABU and deliberately misleading.

The biggest % of our welfare goes to pensioners. And when labour tried to do something about it with winter fuel everyone went crazy.

What's a luxury food- smoked salmon, imported stuff like tropical fruits, Roll Mop Herrings? I dot think that's a good idea as who determines what a luxury is?

out of work benefits may be the highest they've ever been but is dwarfed by the sum spent on pensioners. And look how far Labour got when they tried to limit the Winter Fuel Allowance.....

As a PP said, unfortunately most people only want to spend other people's money, and are not prepared to take on a fair share of the burden themselves, .

Currently biscuits are a luxury and cakes aren’t.

Because these figures were never made public! These are figures from Treasury at the court case and which they've never publicly released because they show that WE were right all along.
They lied and gaslit the public about this.

The government ruled out raising taxes and thats now been publicly retracted.

There's no such thing as emphatically with this government.

Exactly. Reform will cr*p on the very people they're getting the support from at the moment. I can't believe people aren't doing their research.

Bloody good idea, the bigger the dog, the more you pay in tax.

It doesn't matter, VAT isn't a luxury tax.

2K caviar and boat moorings are VAT exempt. The education of children has VAT applied.

Shocked I am. Shocked I tell you.

Oh wait...

The optional private education of children has VAT applied.

You mean when you u-turned on their manifesto the month after being elected - that was just weird political stategy.

I wonder why.

I was a teacher for over 20 years and only perk I got was a few boxes of chocolates at end of term and if really lucky a bottle of wine from a parent of a student.

The Labour party have always hated the private sector, yet have loved taxing the private sector to fund the public sector, because the private sector has always generated wealth. I think the end game is that the public sector will get so big that it will fall over and will then take out the private sector with it. The NHS has contracts in the private sector to ease the strain on some services and they're all going to go down with the bloated, gluttonous beast that is the NHS. Just my two pence.