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Can we have ages instead of school years?

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LadyoftheMercians · 26/09/2025 22:58

I have no idea how old a year 11 child is? And therefore no clue on of they should be allowed a phone in their room overnight.

Inspired by a thread, not necessarily a TAAT

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Suednymph · 28/09/2025 12:39

I think we need to go back to saying things like my 192 month old etc.

tinytemper66 · 28/09/2025 12:48

It isn’t English centric. We have the same system in Wales!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 28/09/2025 12:50

@DiscoBobEngland and Wales are similar. Scotland is different (school start age, school leaving age, year numbering, exams taken). Not sure about NI.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 28/09/2025 12:57

DiscoBob · 28/09/2025 12:31

I don't think it's different in different parts of the UK is it? All kids start at either four or five? Maybe I'm wrong there?

I get it if you're from a different country entirely but I know the US grade system just because you hear about it so much.

Not everyone is from the UK. I'm not.

From what I have read on here, scotland has a different cut off date than england so starting age is different. 4.5 - 5.5 in scotland and 4 -5 in England. I don't know the age for NI.

cornflourblue · 28/09/2025 13:15

Scotland has a completely different education system to rUK.

There is often an assumption on here that England = UK.

DiscoBob · 28/09/2025 14:19

OchonAgusOchonOh · 28/09/2025 12:57

Not everyone is from the UK. I'm not.

From what I have read on here, scotland has a different cut off date than england so starting age is different. 4.5 - 5.5 in scotland and 4 -5 in England. I don't know the age for NI.

Ok to me that's still 4-5. Of course I know plenty are not from the UK. But you said different parts of UK had different age starts and I didn't think they did.

LadyoftheMercians · 28/09/2025 14:25

TheNightingalesStarling · 28/09/2025 11:36

Theoretically a Yr6 can be older than a Yr7

I suppose if the older one was held back, but simplistically if birthday before 1st September lower year, and 1st September forward upper year

I dont know why people get so aggressive about it though, im not asking/suggesting you sacrifice your first born, its just easier to digest if you put DS 6 (Y1) or similar.

Do it or dont do it, but you'll probably get better answers if you do.

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MagicLoop · 28/09/2025 14:27

Tastaturen · 27/09/2025 07:38

It's also perfectly normal to refer to an actual age.

Yes. Both are normal and natural, so people use whichever they want, which is fine. If other posters need clarification, they can ask or look it up, as they would if they needed clarification on terminology on any other kind of thread.

PinkyFlamingo · 28/09/2025 14:29

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 26/09/2025 23:03

If you have no experience of a child in, say Year 11, then simply ignore that post and just reply to topics that are relevant to you.

Or just figure it out. It's a pretty easy code to crack.

I'm in Scotland and I don't have a clue about years. So have I to avoid all the English ones? Don't be so ridiculous.

PinkyFlamingo · 28/09/2025 14:30

DiscoBob · 28/09/2025 12:31

I don't think it's different in different parts of the UK is it? All kids start at either four or five? Maybe I'm wrong there?

I get it if you're from a different country entirely but I know the US grade system just because you hear about it so much.

We don't have the year system in Scotland though

Butchyrestingface · 28/09/2025 14:32

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 26/09/2025 23:03

If you have no experience of a child in, say Year 11, then simply ignore that post and just reply to topics that are relevant to you.

Or just figure it out. It's a pretty easy code to crack.

Posters may have experience of a 'year 11' child but it's not called that across the whole of the UK (or elsewhere), hence confusion.

LadyoftheMercians · 28/09/2025 14:43

DiscoBob · 28/09/2025 11:46

Well you must know what age you were when you were in school. So you start school at 4/5- then just add 11 to that. So 15/16.

It's not that difficult really. If they are UK based it's kind of universally known anyway surely?

In some countries they don't start until 7 (Sweden). This was from 2017.

So now I have to know where you are, then calculate how old this child is, when its just as easy to type it in.

Under new reforms announced by President Macron, French children will start school at the age of three instead of six from September 2019. However, this is only likely to affect a small share of children as most parents already send their children to school at three anyway. Macron said that the change should reduce inequality in education as poorer parents and families in overseas territories are not as likely to send their children to school at an early age.

How does France compare with other European countries? Across much of the continent, including Germany, Italy and Spain, six is the standard starting age. There are some exceptions, however, with children in Latvia and Sweden starting school at seven according to the European Commission.

Can we have ages instead of school years?
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Needmorelego · 28/09/2025 15:03

KimberleyClark · 28/09/2025 11:48

When I was at school back in the dark ages we used Standard 1, 2, 3 etc for primary and Form 1, 2, 3 for secondary and it was easy to know what age child was being talked about.

What country was that?
In English schools pre WW2 "Standard 1" was age 7 (after 2 years of Infants).

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 28/09/2025 15:11

Butchyrestingface · 28/09/2025 14:32

Posters may have experience of a 'year 11' child but it's not called that across the whole of the UK (or elsewhere), hence confusion.

There might be a justification for using "Year 11" if the question was posted in Education/Schools forum and the question was relevant to the English school system.

I don't look at those sub forums as my child is all grown up but I still see this "Year 11" nonsense appearing e.g allowed to have a phone/ walk home alone/ do x, y and z. I just ignore the question even if I might have something relevant or who knows, useful to add.

MelliC · 28/09/2025 15:41

So you can't be bothered to Google it and then add 5 to whatever year you want to know the age of? Or just ask the question of the person who said Y11 "what age is Y11?"

You think it would be better if every one of the 26,000 schools in the country should be bogged down in administration rewriting timetables, re programming homework and updating student records and performance software, putting up new signs around the school. You think everyone of the 0.5m pupils and their 1m parents and their 0.5m teaches should learn the new system .

Luckily I don't think you have the necessary work ethic to end up in charge and maybe it is just as well.

Pharazon · 28/09/2025 15:48

DiscoBob · 28/09/2025 11:46

Well you must know what age you were when you were in school. So you start school at 4/5- then just add 11 to that. So 15/16.

It's not that difficult really. If they are UK based it's kind of universally known anyway surely?

No it’s not. The English, Scottish and Northern Irish systems are all different.

Pharazon · 28/09/2025 15:50

MelliC · 28/09/2025 15:41

So you can't be bothered to Google it and then add 5 to whatever year you want to know the age of? Or just ask the question of the person who said Y11 "what age is Y11?"

You think it would be better if every one of the 26,000 schools in the country should be bogged down in administration rewriting timetables, re programming homework and updating student records and performance software, putting up new signs around the school. You think everyone of the 0.5m pupils and their 1m parents and their 0.5m teaches should learn the new system .

Luckily I don't think you have the necessary work ethic to end up in charge and maybe it is just as well.

Erm no. OP was asking people posting on mumsnet to state age rather than school year. Not for every school in the country to change their admin system. 🙄

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 28/09/2025 15:53

MelliC · 28/09/2025 15:41

So you can't be bothered to Google it and then add 5 to whatever year you want to know the age of? Or just ask the question of the person who said Y11 "what age is Y11?"

You think it would be better if every one of the 26,000 schools in the country should be bogged down in administration rewriting timetables, re programming homework and updating student records and performance software, putting up new signs around the school. You think everyone of the 0.5m pupils and their 1m parents and their 0.5m teaches should learn the new system .

Luckily I don't think you have the necessary work ethic to end up in charge and maybe it is just as well.

So you can't be bothered to Google it and then add 5 to whatever year you want to know the age of? Or just ask the question of the person who said Y11 "what age is Y11?"

If that reply was to me why the hell should I Google it if the person asking the question can't be bothered to add the essential information about the child's age but can be bothered adding the longer non- essential information about "DD is in Year 11"

The rest of your post is a completely irrelevant straw man.

Needmorelego · 28/09/2025 16:00

@MelliC huh?

Hallywally · 28/09/2025 16:00

If you’re interested enough to respond to the thread, it’s not hard to look up.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 28/09/2025 16:02

LadyoftheMercians · 28/09/2025 14:43

In some countries they don't start until 7 (Sweden). This was from 2017.

So now I have to know where you are, then calculate how old this child is, when its just as easy to type it in.

Under new reforms announced by President Macron, French children will start school at the age of three instead of six from September 2019. However, this is only likely to affect a small share of children as most parents already send their children to school at three anyway. Macron said that the change should reduce inequality in education as poorer parents and families in overseas territories are not as likely to send their children to school at an early age.

How does France compare with other European countries? Across much of the continent, including Germany, Italy and Spain, six is the standard starting age. There are some exceptions, however, with children in Latvia and Sweden starting school at seven according to the European Commission.

I suspect this has changed, but when I was at my French primary school in the 1970s, they didn’t think twice to make a child resit the year, sometimes twice.

Needmorelego · 28/09/2025 16:02

Hallywally · 28/09/2025 16:00

If you’re interested enough to respond to the thread, it’s not hard to look up.

Or people could just stop writing in spy code and just put a proper sentence.
"My son who is 11 and still at primary school" or "My daughter who is 11 and recently started secondary school".
That's not exactly hard to do.

AgnesMcDoo · 28/09/2025 16:10

DiscoBob · 28/09/2025 11:46

Well you must know what age you were when you were in school. So you start school at 4/5- then just add 11 to that. So 15/16.

It's not that difficult really. If they are UK based it's kind of universally known anyway surely?

‘Universally’ known in England and Wales but not Scotland or Northern Ireland.

Different age cut offs and dates) primary can start aged between 4.5 and 6)
’summer born’ is not a thing
no reception class
primary is from P1 to P7
high school is from S1-S6
university lasts for 4 years
exams are National 4s, National 5s, Highers and Advanced Highers which are taken across S4-S6 in 1 or 2 years depending on the individual
our term dates are totally different

and that’s just Scotland - NI is different again

AgnesMcDoo · 28/09/2025 16:10

Hallywally · 28/09/2025 16:00

If you’re interested enough to respond to the thread, it’s not hard to look up.

or the OP could just state the age of their child

it’s not that hard

LadyoftheMercians · 28/09/2025 17:01

MelliC · 28/09/2025 15:41

So you can't be bothered to Google it and then add 5 to whatever year you want to know the age of? Or just ask the question of the person who said Y11 "what age is Y11?"

You think it would be better if every one of the 26,000 schools in the country should be bogged down in administration rewriting timetables, re programming homework and updating student records and performance software, putting up new signs around the school. You think everyone of the 0.5m pupils and their 1m parents and their 0.5m teaches should learn the new system .

Luckily I don't think you have the necessary work ethic to end up in charge and maybe it is just as well.

Only if they are run by mumsnet message boards.....

Or no.

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