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Can we have ages instead of school years?

203 replies

LadyoftheMercians · 26/09/2025 22:58

I have no idea how old a year 11 child is? And therefore no clue on of they should be allowed a phone in their room overnight.

Inspired by a thread, not necessarily a TAAT

OP posts:
cornflourblue · 26/09/2025 23:29

beasmithwentworth · 26/09/2025 23:07

Year 11 is the year when they take their GCSEs. It could be 15 (in the case of DS who is born young in the year - largely as long as they are 16 before 1st of September)

I know this isn’t exactly what you were asking for but the years pretty much follow the years in a lot of countries.

year 6 is the last year of primary school and that normally means 11 years old (there are exceptions- depending on when you are born in the year)

first year of secondary is year 7
and so on.
GCSE year is year 11
A level is year 13 and normally taken aged 18 but you could be 17 as the exams are before the official school year ends and you might be young in your year (both of mine are)

I don't have the headspace for all that. Easier to say my DS is x age (in year y)...

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:29

ShamrockShenanigans · 26/09/2025 23:07

You can either work it out on your fingers or just use Google 🤷‍♂️

I can't use my fingers because the age of starting school and the numbering order of school years is very different in Ireland. I couldn't be arsed using Google. So much easier to say, 10 year old, 16 year old or whatever?

DoYouReally · 26/09/2025 23:31

I'm Irish and just add 5 - it's usually accurate.

In fairness, it's not rocket science.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/09/2025 23:31

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:25

I guess for those of us not English, this is not at all clear. While age is always clear m

Except in threads about schools, they'd then be cluttered up with 'which year is he in?'. Is he in primary or secondary? 11 year olds don't have different teachers for different lessons? Won't he miss his SATs?

And of course 'how old is he?'.

Can't please all of the people all of the time.

cornflourblue · 26/09/2025 23:32

cinnamongirl123 · 26/09/2025 23:29

Jesus christ OP, if you don’t know what age a Year X child is, why are you even reading a thread about them. Or just look it up, it’s not rocket science. Add 5 years, basically.

So Scottish and Irish parents can't give advice? Or should automatically know English school years and school starting ages, despite them being different in their countries?

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/09/2025 23:34

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 26/09/2025 23:03

If you have no experience of a child in, say Year 11, then simply ignore that post and just reply to topics that are relevant to you.

Or just figure it out. It's a pretty easy code to crack.

At some point I must have had experience of a "child in Year 11" but as the educational system my child was in doesn't have a "Year 11" I have no idea what age is being referred to.

It's so utterly parochial and typing the actual age would be quicker.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/09/2025 23:35

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:29

I can't use my fingers because the age of starting school and the numbering order of school years is very different in Ireland. I couldn't be arsed using Google. So much easier to say, 10 year old, 16 year old or whatever?

Pretty sure you can add 5 to a number consisting of at most two digits. Try it now - Year 7, so 7+5 is...? Great. You've got how old they're going to be by the end of the academic year.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/09/2025 23:37

SparklyCardigan · 26/09/2025 23:11

I'm Scottish and even I can work it out. It's not rocket science.

I'm in Scotland and it's irritating and parochial.

TheWrongReasons · 26/09/2025 23:37

cornflourblue · 26/09/2025 23:32

So Scottish and Irish parents can't give advice? Or should automatically know English school years and school starting ages, despite them being different in their countries?

If you want to give advice so desperately, you can look up the age if a poster doesn’t provide it. Or not. Your choice. Is google broken for so many posters?

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:38

DoYouReally · 26/09/2025 23:31

I'm Irish and just add 5 - it's usually accurate.

In fairness, it's not rocket science.

But, is it reception, then 1234, or is reception 1, then its 234? That matters, if you are counting from 5. I don't actually know which it is.

TheWrongReasons · 26/09/2025 23:40

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:29

I can't use my fingers because the age of starting school and the numbering order of school years is very different in Ireland. I couldn't be arsed using Google. So much easier to say, 10 year old, 16 year old or whatever?

lol. If you can’t be arsed to use google, I’m sure the OP will cope without your advice. Plenty of people will know what year 11 means or they will be willing to google and will offer advice so just move on to another thread.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/09/2025 23:40

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:38

But, is it reception, then 1234, or is reception 1, then its 234? That matters, if you are counting from 5. I don't actually know which it is.

When they say Reception, they mean Reception. When they say Y1, they mean Year 1.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/09/2025 23:40

TheWrongReasons · 26/09/2025 23:37

If you want to give advice so desperately, you can look up the age if a poster doesn’t provide it. Or not. Your choice. Is google broken for so many posters?

Why can't the person asking for advice say the age? It is quicker to type than "year 11"

And no I'm not going to Google for information the poster could have easily supplied so I don't bother giving advice.

LadyoftheMercians · 26/09/2025 23:41

TheWrongReasons · 26/09/2025 23:28

If you don’t know what age a year 11 child is, you probably don’t have any experience of parenting them and so can’t offer much help anyway.

My dc have left school, but I dont think im completely washed up and unable to discuss.

Frighteningly, I hear some people here like to give advice, and they dont have children at all....

OP posts:
cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:42

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/09/2025 23:37

I'm in Scotland and it's irritating and parochial.

I agree. In Ireland it's junior infants, senior infants, first class. Plus you can start junior infants at different ages.

TheWrongReasons · 26/09/2025 23:43

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/09/2025 23:40

Why can't the person asking for advice say the age? It is quicker to type than "year 11"

And no I'm not going to Google for information the poster could have easily supplied so I don't bother giving advice.

I dare say they’ll cope with all the other replies they’ll get, without yours. 🤪😂

LadyoftheMercians · 26/09/2025 23:43

cinnamongirl123 · 26/09/2025 23:29

Jesus christ OP, if you don’t know what age a Year X child is, why are you even reading a thread about them. Or just look it up, it’s not rocket science. Add 5 years, basically.

By that logic, why not put the age?

OP posts:
Twistedfirestarters · 26/09/2025 23:43

cornflourblue · 26/09/2025 23:27

I'm Scottish and have no idea what age a Year 11 would be.

Equally would you know what S5 means?

I wouldn't but I just wouldn't answer. I doubt that a scottish op would miss me answering as there are plenty of people in here who would know.

cornflourblue · 26/09/2025 23:43

TheWrongReasons · 26/09/2025 23:37

If you want to give advice so desperately, you can look up the age if a poster doesn’t provide it. Or not. Your choice. Is google broken for so many posters?

But why should I have to Google? Quicker for the OP to say age and year. Literally 2 extra words.

Its the assumption that everyone on MN is English.

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:45

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/09/2025 23:40

When they say Reception, they mean Reception. When they say Y1, they mean Year 1.

So year 11 is 11 years, plus reception, so actually the 12th year in school? I'm genuinely asking. I've always wondered

LadyoftheMercians · 26/09/2025 23:46

Twistedfirestarters · 26/09/2025 23:43

I wouldn't but I just wouldn't answer. I doubt that a scottish op would miss me answering as there are plenty of people in here who would know.

Would a Scottish person have a different view on if a xx year old should be allowed a phone over night ?

OP posts:
TheWrongReasons · 26/09/2025 23:49

cornflourblue · 26/09/2025 23:43

But why should I have to Google? Quicker for the OP to say age and year. Literally 2 extra words.

Its the assumption that everyone on MN is English.

There’s no ‘should’ about it. You do realise you’re not obligated to reply don’t you?

I’ve seen lots of poster refering to P1 and not mention ages so it’s not just people in England. I just google if I’m interested enough. If I’m not, I move on. People refer to things how they do in their daily life. Not everything is about you.

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:49

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:45

So year 11 is 11 years, plus reception, so actually the 12th year in school? I'm genuinely asking. I've always wondered

So, you start school in England in reception at age five. Then enter year 1. So year 11 is 5 plus 11, hence 16, is that correct?

cygnusgenie · 26/09/2025 23:52

I have to say I've always found it really confusing so hope somebody will exclaim it clearly here.

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 26/09/2025 23:52

Sometimes both are relevant. A current Year 11 could have just turned 15 in August, or already turned 16 this month.

And likewise a 15 Year old could be in Year 10, or 11.