To think it's a bit harsh to say people who've never worked shouldn't get benefits?

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Was reading another thread where many were saying if someone has never worked they shouldn't get any benefits but couldn't comment because it had reached 1000 comments.

I know this might be an unpopular opinion but I don't agree because that would include young mums who can't work because they have a baby to look after. Most of them will get a job when their child is a little older. Why are they any different from older mums who've fallen on hard times and need help?

And I know people will say it's because they've never worked and haven't proven themselves unlazy etc and could be on the dole forever but why should they have their lives ruined just because of something people think MIGHT happen.

Car was a birthday present from her partner but had to get rid of it as questions were being asked.

Provident are no longer operating in our country. There are more like them though.

Good I have a job

You're still pretty young then OP. You work now, but do you support yourself?

Yes

I don't think they want them to.
I think they don't care if they do.

It is very worrying to read such coldness towards vulnerable people.

I can see reform, if thry get in, bringing back institutions, workhouses, poor houses, etc.

Off benefits?

Well done on getting into the work force.

So you've claimed no benefits since you started work? Good for you!

I'm sure they would
But it's not that simple fortunately
Pro choice goes both ways nobody in this day and age should be forced to either have a baby they don't want or an abortion.

Of course it is that simple. If you have a baby at 16 it should adopted by a family that can support it. Teens cannot be good parents. The children of teen mothers are far more likely to become teen mothers themselves.

How old are her kids ,becsuse since 2017 you can only claim UC for two kids ,wwell those born after 2017,also they don't just allow you to sit around all day untill your kids are grown up she would be expected to look for work

Yeah but it's not going ti hapoen is it
I'm not for one minute suggesting it's a good idea to have a baby at 16 but nobody can or or should be forced to have an abortion or give up a baby.

What abut all those with poor health and disabilities at a young age? YANBU at all.

It is NOT that simple. Of course women and girls should be able to have abortion at any age if they choose. It’s no one’s business but hers.

You clearly have no idea about the realities of being a child in care, how prevalent abuse and trauma is, and how often these cycles are then repeated. There are thousands of children in the care system who will never get adopted. It’s not as simple as ‘just have the baby you don’t want and get it adopted’.

That’s a different situation entirely and I agree they should be eligible.

But 16, mucked around at school and got pregnant to get benefits? You’re on your own kid

A friend has 4 children. 2 of them she had as a teenager. She's a good parent

Of course it is their decision, but it is also their responsibility not the states to feed their baby. You can't be a good parent if you can't feed your baby. It is parenting 101.

Yes, because they know the daughter will be housed and paid for by tax payers. It's the same with dad's leaving... they know their ex will and kids will be looked after by tax payers.
Maybe when people start looking after themselves and their kids - the state, the tax payer, won't have to.

I think I was a good parent and the other young mums I used to live with were good parents.
Certainly better than some older parents I see drinking while abusing prescription drugs and over feeding their morbidly obese toddler junk food just some examples

young mums who can't work because they have a baby to look after

What were they doing before they had a baby if they weren’t working?

Too disabled (physically or mentally) to work - receive money to cover costs of living and care

Disabled but can still work - PIP covers the costs of disability. And then work and do your career

Physically healthy but in tough circumstances - welfare should be temporary and not permanent with a view/pathway to being free off welfare

You live in the UK? You need to be 16 for almost every job here.

Quite right. They let the council make up for their parenting failure.

If they make the decision to have a baby they should think blow they’re going to fund it.

These things have been happening since forever way before benefits existed

DS knew a girl who worked at her chippie since she was 14