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Sex offender around children

55 replies

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 19:50

Would you, under any circumstances allow a registered sex offender (previously jailed for rape with other reports of abusive and coercive control made more recently since release) around your child?

How would you feel if a friend who had previously reassured you during an earlier conversation that she had done a Claire’s law on said sex offender and it didn’t return anything serious had actively encouraged him to be around not only yours but also your friends children whilst knowing he’s a registered sex offender? (she knew this as social services had stepped in months prior and banned him from being around her child)

Timeline:

Had conversation around Jan/feb about Claire’s law and it just happened to come up and she said she had done one on him and said there was only minor assault charges from his youth

March onwards he was around my child

July she had no option but to disclose the information to me due to being put on a child protection plan and divulged he had been banned by SS from being around her son since February! Therefore she needed to make sure I wasn’t going to mention seeing them in eachothers company to their nursery who are involved in the SS plan.

Shes been majorly struggling with her mental health so I felt I couldn’t bring it up at the time (there was other outing things going on in July which meant it felt impossible to raise this issue)

I have now raised the issue and she has exploded at me calling me a bully. She’s saying I’m treating him like a paedofile - I explained that I don’t care what’s gone on with him in his past but if he’s not deemed fit to be around her child then I’ll trust SS on that, not someone who withheld this information from me for several months. Her argument is that he’s not banned from being around all children, just hers, because SS deem him a risk to her, not him. I told her she wasn’t safeguarding her child and I will.

I don’t particularly think he is a risk to children but feel like it was never her decision to make, knowing what she knew. Whilst I didn’t expect her to tell me off her own back he’s a SO, she just should never of encouraged him to be in the company of my child or anyone else’s.

Also now I’m in a horrible position of knowing what I know whilst being asked to keep it to myself, knowing they’ve had other friends children in and out of a padding pool naked in their garden.

I feel sick to the stomach over it and it just seems bizarre to me how blasé and dismissive of his crimes she actually is. She’s done all the SS courses and abused women courses so she should be able to see through any manipulation but either she’s too stubborn (which sadly I think is the case here), she’s being manipulated by him to believe it’s not a big deal or she genuinely doesn’t see the issue with a sex offender being around her child?

Am I in the minority here? She’s trying to persuade me I am…

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Theunamedcat · 25/09/2025 19:53

Why do you feel he is no longer a risk to children

Katemax82 · 25/09/2025 19:54

To answer your question, absolutely not!

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 19:58

Theunamedcat · 25/09/2025 19:53

Why do you feel he is no longer a risk to children

Because the rape was when he was 18 and the victim was 17, I don’t think he’s even technically deemed a risk to children but I haven’t seen the police reports so I’m being expected to accept her version of what’s happened when she seems so wrapped up in this toxic situation that I can’t trust her judgement, alls I know is he’s banned from contact with her child and that’s enough for me to not want him around my child.

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NCforthis111 · 25/09/2025 19:58

Absolutely not.
She's minimising the concerns of the CP plan which would end badly for her.

Kibble19 · 25/09/2025 19:58

Didn’t need to get past the first paragraph before I knew my answer. I did read the rest, but not in a million years would I let this freak anywhere near my child. Or anyone I cared about, for that matter.

Even if his rape offence wasn’t against a child, he’s a deviant.

I’d make sure that I mentioned his history to anyone who’d listen too. They deserve zero kindness, compassion or benefit of the doubt.

Kibble19 · 25/09/2025 20:00

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 19:58

Because the rape was when he was 18 and the victim was 17, I don’t think he’s even technically deemed a risk to children but I haven’t seen the police reports so I’m being expected to accept her version of what’s happened when she seems so wrapped up in this toxic situation that I can’t trust her judgement, alls I know is he’s banned from contact with her child and that’s enough for me to not want him around my child.

Ah the usual “it was a girl who cheated on her boyfriend with him then regretted it and lied” style explanation. She looked older, he broke up with her and she had a vendetta…usual.

You know yourself that this is wrong. Social services know far more than you do, and they think he’s a risk. That would be good enough for me.

Don't doubt yourself, OP. 🙂

wizzywig · 25/09/2025 20:05

Seriously leave her in her deluded life. Shes been taken in by a groomer. She thinks shes smarter than everyone else. Dont risk your kids for this mess

TheJeanQueen · 25/09/2025 20:07

I wouldn’t want him anywhere near me or any children.

This ‘friend’ would no longer be in my life.

MidnightPatrol · 25/09/2025 20:09

I think exposing people to a known sex offender and hiding that information from that is v dodgy and I would be furious.

And she knew that, because she hid it from you, and was trying to hide it from SS.

It would be an end to the friendship for me, and I would just tell her why - it’s not an odd position to have…!

PenelopeRadish · 25/09/2025 20:11

Yanbu

why are you not allowed to tell other people - who can stop you?

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 20:11

Kibble19 · 25/09/2025 20:00

Ah the usual “it was a girl who cheated on her boyfriend with him then regretted it and lied” style explanation. She looked older, he broke up with her and she had a vendetta…usual.

You know yourself that this is wrong. Social services know far more than you do, and they think he’s a risk. That would be good enough for me.

Don't doubt yourself, OP. 🙂

Wow you have just quoted her reasoning

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AnSolas · 25/09/2025 20:11

SS decided he could not be in contact with her child so they deem her a risk to her own child too.

She would be an Ex-friend.

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 20:12

wizzywig · 25/09/2025 20:05

Seriously leave her in her deluded life. Shes been taken in by a groomer. She thinks shes smarter than everyone else. Dont risk your kids for this mess

Thanks for your message.

Just to be clear he won’t be around my children now I know what I know.

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stichguru · 25/09/2025 20:12

There's something weird here. I can't see why someone would actually be banned from being around one child. If he is a risk to children then he is banned or there are strict rules about him being around any of them!

Theunamedcat · 25/09/2025 20:15

Ok

He has been banned from being around her SON if he was a rapist of women SS wouldn't have banned him from her son in my experience

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 20:19

stichguru · 25/09/2025 20:12

There's something weird here. I can't see why someone would actually be banned from being around one child. If he is a risk to children then he is banned or there are strict rules about him being around any of them!

So this is the reason I’ve had, as I was also confused by this…

He’s not a child sex offender
His history of abusive crimes both convicted rape and more recently unconvicted and statement withdrawn domestic abuse means he’s a risk to women in romantic relationships, this combined with her being classed as vulnerable as she’s been in multiple domestic abuse relationships (no shade here, I’ve been in two myself) she’s seen as vulnerable and unable to safeguard her child.

She was aware he was a sex offender prior to their relationship through their friendship group (she only did a Clare’s law to fully understand it, or so she says) whereas the abuse I endured was a slow process that began as what seemed a normal relationship to abusive over the space of a few years, both very different in style, one wasn’t physical abuse more mental. If I had any information on my previous partners they could deem a risk to either myself or my child then I would obviously not have had them in my life.

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Theunamedcat · 25/09/2025 20:21

Also its Sarah's law for sex offenders claires law for domestic abuse

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 20:24

I’ve danced around her feelings and tried desperately not to upset her for weeks over this, yet when I raised it she’s exploded and called me a bully because I had to be blunt with her and tell her it was my decision if I allowed him around my child and that she wasn’t safeguarding her child appropriately.
From other situations she’s discussed with me, she likes to paint herself at perfect and the victim in every disagreement with friends, family, SS, nursery. She’s on her 3rd social worker since the beginning of the year because she keeps putting complaints in about them, but I just can’t wrap my head around her not seeing what I see in this situation. I’m scared for the child, even if he’s not abusive or a risk to them, I now fear her mental health and decision making surrounding the safety of her children is not appropriate.
She blames SS for everything. It’s their fault there’s no supervised contact in place because they took too long doing referals etc etc. Never once has she sat there and acknowledged what she’s brought into her home and son’s life.

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Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 20:25

Theunamedcat · 25/09/2025 20:21

Also its Sarah's law for sex offenders claires law for domestic abuse

If you did a Claire’s law would they also disclose sexual crimes? Or suggest you do a Sarah’s? Or surely once they’d done a referal to SS they would divulge the sexual crimes? Maybe she’s just called it Claire’s to me as it would ring alarm bells saying she had done a Sarah’s?

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WatchingTheDetective · 25/09/2025 20:33

You are extremely unreasonable for not telling your friends to keep their children away from him.

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 25/09/2025 20:39

The things I would do here are

1- Stop being friends with her
2- Tell all of your mutual friends what you know
3- Call SS and tell the nursery everything you know

She obviously isn't in the headspace to safeguard her kid right now, someone else has to, and you're the one with all the information.

I know of men with rape convictions who are allowed to live with their children, in fact just look at men in the public eye with rape convictions, pretty much all of them are allowed to live with their dc. So even though she probably believes this story, it's clearly a crock of shut, and he's admitted just enough to make it believable.

isthesolution · 25/09/2025 20:46

Tell SS he has been around her children if he has. They deem him a risk because he is a risk.

Im unclear what makes you think him raping a 17 year old means he isn’t a risk to your children - but he damn well is!

Tell SS everything you know. Walk away from the friendship.

Impartialopinions · 25/09/2025 20:47

WatchingTheDetective · 25/09/2025 20:33

You are extremely unreasonable for not telling your friends to keep their children away from him.

I have made it clear she isn’t to have him around anyone else’s children but didn’t see the point in telling people as I know the people and it wouldn’t be a diplomatic falling out and she had other situations July/August, I almost feel manipulated myself looking back on the friendship since I found out but she made it clear she couldn’t handle anyone knowing and I dread to think what she would’ve done, and at the end of the day she has a child.
Other things which have raised alarm bells with her:
She cried on a voicenote to me when I suggested cancelling a play area date with the children as my son wasn’t 100%
She asked me for lunch and I was unavailable, when I told her this and suggested she go for a massage to unwind from the stress she’s under I got a very sad voicenote describing how she really needs some social interaction with her friends
Because I have very little time to see her she suggested cutting down on my beauty appointments 🫣
Each individual thing doesn’t seem like a big deal but I’ve woken to messages and voicenotes every morning, often 5+ reels on social media, if I don’t reply quick enough I get more messages sometimes asking me if everything’s ok.
Shes asked me to do her school run a few times, once because it was raining heavily (I park inbetween her home and the nursery and walk with my child who has impulse control issues so need to often wrestle him to keep him safe on the busy road)
FYI I am a single working and extremely busy parent of 3 and spend a minimum of 4 hours on the school run each day.
She gets huge amounts of support from friends and family and seems to be getting increasingly demanding and dependant, which is why I’ve been sensitive as I think she’s depressed.
Every time I declined plans there would be a suggestion for other plans very soon after, even though my reasons for not making plans was being busy and overwhelmed myself. It was very intense.

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CunningLinguist2 · 25/09/2025 20:56

Please tell the nursery!

Hotflushesandchilblains · 25/09/2025 21:04

A sexual offence against an adult or someone of nearly the same age is not going to mean the person is banned from being around all children. Not all sexual offences mean someone will be sexually attracted to children. However, if someone is sadistic in their behaviour, you dont want vulnerable people around them, and children would certainly be vulnerable.

However, its clear that SS know he is a threat to his partners, and children who are around DA almost always know what is happening and are badly affected by it. I have seen so many women like your friend who are completely in denial and who want to side with the partner. I once had one who told me her reason for coming to see me was 'to get the social off my back'. I told her that I would not offer her appointments unless she had some personal motivation for wanting to change and she got really mad and put in a complaint.

To be fair, I think its not far from the women who know their children are being physically or sexually abused but dont want to rock the boat because their marriage is working for them.

As much as you want it to be true, not all mothers are good mothers who can put their childs needs above their own.