Violet Affleck and mask mandates

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AIBU think that this shouldn’t be encouraged? Violet Affleck advocating for mask mandates. Daughter of Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck. Speaking about the importance of masks. Says we should still be wearing them to curb the spread of Covid 19.
Shouldn’t a young privileged woman be enjoying her youth? Is there a reason for fit healthy people like her to still walk around in masks?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15127909/violet-affleck-mask-mandates-long-covid-ben-jennifer-garner.html

Lots of people are in this position and were so long before the pandemic. It's only since the pandemic that some people seem to think they'll be at extra special risk of dying if everyone else doesn't mask up, even now the pandemic is thankfully over. So, yes.

people can change to clear masks when needed.

That literally the rationale for not vaccinating children against chicken pox in France. Because having children infected with the chicken pox virus roaming around boosts immunity in older and weaker populations.

Or they can just not wear masks because there is no pandemic.

I intensely dislike people who wear masks. I hated the mask wearing during Covid.

I was pregnant during the first lockdown and during every pregnancy appointment my doctor invited me to remove my mask as soon as the door was closed because he thought they were absolutely pointless.

Okay? That doesn’t mean that we all need to be catching every virus and infection going! Maybe if we all cared more for others we’d have a better society.

Isn’t that precisely how the immune system works?

Your immune system is constantly in defensive mode against pathogens you encounter daily. You won’t notice it most of the time apart from the occasional “fighting off something” feeling.

The absence of exposure to circulating pathogens is one of the reasons there’s been spikes in RSV and flu since Covid.

Well, once you get away from the DM headline and the MN frothing. She makes an interesting point that’s worthy of discussion - but of course that can’t be allowed because she has famous parents.

As for all the Luddites on this thread. What an embarrassment you are. We’d still be living in mud huts the way some of you seem to think. Terrified of progress and that a future generation might have things better because of filtered air in hospitals. You can’t bear that idea, can you? Prevention being better than cure.

A prime contender for “thread showing the worst of MN”.

Ah so this one experience means masks mean nothing.

Not because he assumed you were both Covid free, in a sanitised environment and safe for the short appointment. Definitely not

Erm, yes? They literally let toddlers suffer from chicken pox in order to care for other groups by exposing them to low levels of the virus to boost their immune systems. This policy is for the benefit of elderly and clinically vulnerable people, not for the benefit of the children themselves. (Which I discovered only after both mine had a nasty bout of chicken pox.)

Why would he assume we were both COVID free in the middle of a pandemic? Makes far more sense to assume people are COVID free and don't need to wear masks now than it did in 2020.

Why? How does it affect you in any way?

No I don't mask. Just find it intriguing why the sight of a mask on someone else who's private medical details you don't know triggers some people so much.

When I am Queen, I will issue a mask mandate annually from 1 December until Christmas Day, so I don't end up spending the two precious weeks of the year when my whole business shuts down and there are no work pressures, laid up with a fucking cold/covid/the flu.

So I'm with her for 24 days of the year.

Bit muchy for the remaining 341 days but it's a free world and she can say, do and wear what she likes. We don't have to agree or listen.

Interestingly in countries that give the MMRV, there’s worries about the cohorts who have caught wild chickenpox as vaccination rises.

With wild chickenpox, the virus remains dormant in the body. For those people, there won’t be naturally high circulating levels of chicken pox to boost their naturally acquired immunity putting them at greater risk of shingles.

Yes, I think that's why France hasn't added it to the vaccination schedule.

It’s actually why we privately vaccinated ours against chicken pox. I figured it was only a matter of time before the UK added it to the schedule and I didn’t want the higher long term risk of shingles for them.

Minor point, but aren’t we still in a pandemic?

OP, I've just read all your posts in this thread on the trot, and your argument is all over the place. It's not even cogent enough to be inconsistent.

What are you actually trying to get over here?

I mask in supermarkets/crowded places before Christmas - see above, nothing enrages me more than being ill when I'm off work. I'm not scared of dying, my immune system is robust - I just want to be able to host my family without feeling doggo/infecting them, then enjoy a break.

I'm all for normalising people taking really simple measures to protect the stuff that matters to them - be that their health, their loved ones, their time off work... I would never judge anyone for wearing a mask.

One of the reasons we did the same. I also wasn't very keen on the idea that my DC ought to be collateral to reduce the risk for other people, even though I caught wild CP myself and am therefore one of that group.

She’s still an undergraduate student with no clout on the topic. I’m sure they could listen to an actual expert in the field if they needed someone. Why are they indulging her?

Me and my husband have both had shingles. 0/10 would not recommend.

Unfortunately the scientific reality of covid is that it is something significantly more than just a cold. As someone generally focused on reality over feel-good ideology, I find that hard to ignore. I think children in particular should have clean air in schools in the same way they have clean water and buildings without asbestos or mould.

The sorts of bugs that are good for us are not the same ones that make us ill. And even if they were we would clearly need to draw the line somewhere - no one would suggest tetanus or polio are good for the immune system. Covid is not really on the 'just a cold' side of that line, even if the short-term symptoms are like a cold. It's the damage it does underneath that's the concern, so even if we never have another mask mandate outside of medical settings we are making a mistake as a society doing nothing about it at all.

Yep. Sorry that wasn't aimed at you but the PP who said they hate people wearing masks. Like why? How does someone else's choice to mask up affect them. As I said we know someone who masks up because they're a carer for a family member with cancer on chemo. I've no doubt they've had people tut at them for being paranoid over covid when they don't have the first clue why they wear one. It's just bizarre. If someone is doing something that doesn't impact you in the slightest. Keep moving.