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Rainbow Flags?

73 replies

PassingStranger · 19/09/2025 16:52

Those who don't want the English flag up, and try and take them down, would they feel the same if people were putting Rainbow Flags up..

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claudiawinklemansfringetrimmer · 20/09/2025 00:16

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 19/09/2025 19:30

No.

The intent is very different. While people might now see the rainbow flag as unwelcoming for whatever reason, it is not put up for the purpose of excluding or intimidating. Operation "Raise The Colours" or whatever it's called was created with the intention of intimidating and excluding anyone who is not white and British, and anyone who does the little faux naive head tilt and "how could England flags possibly be racist?" needs to grow up and open their eyes.

Exactly this.

KilkennyCats · 20/09/2025 00:19

blankcanvas3 · 19/09/2025 19:32

Or could it just be that people want to show their support for the LGBT community? It doesn’t have to be a personal attack on your thoughts and feelings towards trans women

In what way does flying a flag “support” anyone?

BerkoFilter · 20/09/2025 00:21

Rainbow flags are a symbol of tyranny now. All my gay community rejects it as a dishonest: we didn’t ask to be included in the alphabet…it’s compulsory conscription. Toxic flag. Needs to be cancelled.

2021x · 20/09/2025 00:29

LactoseTolerant · 19/09/2025 23:09

No i wouldn't because no one is putting up rainbow flags to intimidate me or my family or make us feel unwelcome.

They are saying that they will tolerate abuse towards people with realistic understanding of sex in society.

SarahJane03 · 20/09/2025 03:42

hiintrepidheroes · 19/09/2025 17:25

No.

UK and England flags make me stay away from an area as I know I’d feel threatened and uncomfortable. They are put up by people wanting to exclude a section of society.

Rainbow flags are the opposite, they promote welcoming and inclusivity.

Sadly the rainbow flag has been hijacked. It is no longer inclusive of the original meaning.

SarahJane03 · 20/09/2025 03:45

Bumbelinaaa · 19/09/2025 17:01

No, because I don’t feel that the motivation behind a rainbow flag is possibly far right related. I don’t think anyone has a basis to feel genuinely threatened by a rainbow flag, whereas there can be a sinister undertone aimed at minorities when it comes to the St George’s Cross and Union Jack flags. If those who fly this flag feel that this interpretation is wrong then more effort needs to be made to change this image, and I find those most of those who protest that the perception of it is unfair also coincidentally are very xenophobic.

The progress flag is homophobic, it is offensive to LGB.

SarahJane03 · 20/09/2025 03:49

pikkumyy77 · 19/09/2025 19:48

Rainbow flags are put up to show inclusion while the current fad for the St George Flag is to represent exclusion and xenophobia. People should put up the flags that represent their political goals. So those who support exclusion, homophobia, and reactionary politics will of course object to the rainbow flag. And those who object to the racism, xenophobia, and calls to attack visible ethnic minorities will opppse the current fashion of putting up the St George’s flag in public areas as it attempts to mark those areas not as “safe” for so called patriots but as off limits to those the white/english/racist political group wishes to exclude.

The progress flag is homophobic by its very nature. I find it highly offensive.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 20/09/2025 03:51

2021x · 20/09/2025 00:29

They are saying that they will tolerate abuse towards people with realistic understanding of sex in society.

What?

SarahJane03 · 20/09/2025 03:55

Bumbelinaaa · 19/09/2025 22:50

You must know how over the top this sounds? I have yet to encounter a single gay/straight/trans etc person in my real life who has expressed this view. Just because a small but very vocal group of strange individuals have claimed this, doesn’t make it the opinion of 99.9% of rainbow flag displayers and I don’t believe you really feel threatened. However I have encountered in real life and have seen many Facebook posts from people who whinge about wanting to put up St George’s cross flags and the majority of them do have very negative views of ethnic minorities. In addition to this we had last weeks marches which all add to the negative and aggressive feeling these flags carry

Bumbeleena, as part of the 10% L&G, it is exactly like this. If you think otherwise count yourself lucky you have not encountered this blatant attempt of transing away the gay.

TallulahLikesHoola · 20/09/2025 07:28

Mumtobabyhavoc · 20/09/2025 03:51

What?

Like this @Mumtobabyhavoc ?

Such a kind. Inclusive not threatening at all lovely group of people!

Rainbow Flags?
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TheBafflingIsGenerallyComplete · 20/09/2025 07:33

It’s one thing to display the flag in your house, it’s another to litter and graffiti public property which is what these people are essentially doing. Furthermore there is a big difference between showing support for a marginalised group, than using the flag of a colonising nation to intimidate. (The progress flag can get in the bin).

Coconutter24 · 20/09/2025 07:37

TallulahLikesHoola · 19/09/2025 19:32

I'd feel threatened by the rainbow flag.
As a female to me it is sinister and means 'you must bow to, and accept males in female spaces, if you do not you will be harassed and hounded out of your employment. You will have threats of violence including decapitation if you do not accept you as a female are worthless'.

It means hope and diversity, it doesn’t mean any of what you wrote

TallulahLikesHoola · 20/09/2025 07:39

Coconutter24 · 20/09/2025 07:37

It means hope and diversity, it doesn’t mean any of what you wrote

Where's the hope and diversity in my post above?

Coconutter24 · 20/09/2025 07:43

TallulahLikesHoola · 20/09/2025 07:39

Where's the hope and diversity in my post above?

They may have hope for themselves and want the world to be diverse. However they’re going the wrong way about it, same as the vegans who protest they all get it so wrong. A small group of people don’t define their whole community. The same way the racists putting up flags don’t speak for the whole of the UK

TallulahLikesHoola · 20/09/2025 08:04

'Hope for themselves' and for all those who parrot their chants...
'Decapitate Terfs'
'Die in a grease fire' and so on to those who have a different view of the world.

BerkoFilter · 20/09/2025 13:41

Coconutter24 · 20/09/2025 07:37

It means hope and diversity, it doesn’t mean any of what you wrote

in what world ? Not in this one, for sure.

CorvusPurpureus · 20/09/2025 13:51

I find the progress flag equally objectionable. It's promoting a homophobic & misogynistic ideology.

As a bisexual woman, no thank you.

(& yes flag shaggers of all varieties, please keep them on your own property).

Coconutter24 · 20/09/2025 16:18

BerkoFilter · 20/09/2025 13:41

in what world ? Not in this one, for sure.

In this world it means that, people just don’t apply it

BerkoFilter · 20/09/2025 17:18

Coconutter24 · 20/09/2025 16:18

In this world it means that, people just don’t apply it

You’re out of date.

OwlBeThere · 20/09/2025 17:22

If they were putting them up with the intent to intimidate, scare and alienate people, yes.

As I feel like I have to explain to about 300 obtuse people lately; it’s not the flag, it’s why the flag is being put up.

Coconutter24 · 20/09/2025 17:23

BerkoFilter · 20/09/2025 17:18

You’re out of date.

In what way?

oviraptor21 · 21/09/2025 09:59

blankcanvas3 · 19/09/2025 19:32

Or could it just be that people want to show their support for the LGBT community? It doesn’t have to be a personal attack on your thoughts and feelings towards trans women

And in just the same way, flying the England flag is showing pride and patriotism to England.
I don't disagree that some people are flying St George's flags for the wrong reason but that is the whole raison d'etre behind the movement, to reclaim the flag from the far right.

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