Is this suitable for 11 year olds?

[Tinythumbelina]

I am required to teach Y6 about 'consent'. Not in the UK. I have no problem with this. The mandated programme gives scenarios to share with students to use for discussion. Scenario 6 was Hugo and Martin, both 15, are at the movies. H. Kisses M who kisses him back. H then continues to kiss M and M pulls away. H then puts his hands down M's pants. Questions about consent follow. I do not think this Scenario is appropriate for a mainstream class of 11-12 year olds. AiBU?

YABU why is it not appropriate?

Why? I'd argue at 13 this sort of thing was happening when I was at school...and that was 30 years ago.

Are you teaching them that H has committed an assault and M should go to the police? I mean, what you're supposed to do next with the situation would matter to me.

I have an 11 year old and would not be comfortable with this. Specifically the hands down pants part. The kissing part is fine and a good lesson for that age

YANBU, I have an 11 year old boy and I would not consider this appropriate at all. Way too explicit. Consent yes, in more general terms.

Year 6 is age 10-11. Some of them only just 10. I don't think describing sexual assault to 10 year olds is appropriate personally.

I think it's a bit graphic for year six/10 year olds. I'd say year 8/9 maybe, for 12/13 year olds.

Why? Do you think if you ignore it, it won't happen? I think its important for them to know that if somebody puts their hands down their pants they can say no!

I actually think that is too strong but because it gives a clear scenario that virtually everyone would see as sexual assault. That age group need to be taught about the lower level consent issues that don't seem so clear cut.

We joke in the UK about the 'cup of tea' video but you know what, all the young people remember it, talk about it etc. My two constantly reference it. Go look it up, it is very good.

Agree. While 10 year olds should know about consent, bodily autonomy, sex for procreation and recreation, many will not be aware that hands on the other partner’s genitals is part of recreational sex and there’s no need to describe specific examples of sexual activity. Why not H and M were holding hands, the. H tried to kiss M and M pushed him away. That’s the sort of level of romantic/sexual activity this age group would be comfortable with.

Yes, it is assault if consent not given

That's what I think. An age appropriate scenario not 15 year olds.

It's a 15 year old scenario.

Well, sadly it does happen. When it happened to me with a boy from my year when I was 10 (he was 9), I just 'let him' and never told anyone about it.

Our y6 are mostly turning 12 but still primary school.

Wow. My 12 year old would find this quite disturbing. His friends are fairly innocent as well- girls (or boys) are not yet on their agenda..

Can you change the script @Tinythumbelina ? Hugo reaches out to take Martin's hand and Martin gives his hand. Hugo then tries to kiss Martin. Martin leans away but Hugo leans over further to try to kiss him anyway. Lack of consent is clear.

Don’t think this is at all appropriate for Y6.

Thanks for your views.

They are a year away from going to Secondary School. 11-20 year olds crossing paths. What’s the issue in discussing consent?

11-12 is Y7, first year of secondary school rather than last year of primary school.

I’d probably change it to grabbing his bum or further kissing rather than hands down pants.

13 year olds get pregnant and get girls pregnant I don't think 12 us too young, 10 may be.

Year 6 go to secondary school really quickly!

YANBU

I think a graphic description of sexual assault (that many of the year group may not even understand), is not the best way to introduce the concept of consent.

Even if they have already been introduced to the concept of consent (I remember my sons teacher doing this with her whole year 2 group after a playground incident involving a few pupils), I think kissing without consent is something they can better wrap their heads around and therefore engage with the consent concept.

I have an 11 year old and think it's fine. Using specific scenarios when discussing consent is important and I don't think this is too graphic, it's sadly something that can happen to young people of that age.

Sounds totally age-inappropriate to me.