Is this suitable for 11 year olds?

[Tinythumbelina]

I am required to teach Y6 about 'consent'. Not in the UK. I have no problem with this. The mandated programme gives scenarios to share with students to use for discussion. Scenario 6 was Hugo and Martin, both 15, are at the movies. H. Kisses M who kisses him back. H then continues to kiss M and M pulls away. H then puts his hands down M's pants. Questions about consent follow. I do not think this Scenario is appropriate for a mainstream class of 11-12 year olds. AiBU?

No one is saying consent shouldn’t be discussed

Yanbu. I think hands down pants is too much for 10/11 year olds. Leave it at kissing.

It can happen to 3 year olds but we don’t describe someone groping someone else’s genitals.

In a lesson about consent, you want all the children to be learning from it. You don’t want some of them sitting there shocked, traumatised, revolted or otherwise thinking ‘ewwwwww’ - you want them in the right mindset to understand the lesson.

Why does anyone think that teaching kids its not ok to put your hand down someone's pants without consent - at any age?

At any age kids should know that this is something they can say no to.

A good teacher / good parent should be able to work out how to communicate this in an age appropriate way.

This will be happening to kids at this age. Equip them to be safe.

20 year olds at secondary school??

So the scenario would be fine if it wasn’t for the kissing? What a bizarre thing to think. I’m not sure most sexual assault starts with a kiss!

I think it's fine.

There is a reason why countries which start sex ed and conversations around things like consent way younger than the UK have far better outcomes.

Can you not adapt the scenario to make it more age appropriate whilst still getting the message of consent across? Surely the whole idea of planned schemes, is that teachers are meant to adapt them to suit their classes. However, there are many London classes of term 3 year 6s where I would feel this would be appropriate as many of the girls look mid teens and they will be coming into contact with older boys at secondary school. Better they are certain what to do if they find themselves in this scenario aged 11 or 12 than not.

I made this London centric because these are the children I know and because many of them are in many ways way older than their years.

Surely we’ve already told them about inappropriate touching?

Do you think 12 year olds don't get sexually assaulted, or sexually assault others, or even engage in consensual sexual touching?
It's insane to put off conversations around sex and consent until teenagers are 3 years past the average age of first watching porn in 2025!!

How else could you demonstrate consent of a sexual nature?

Do you mean because they're both male? Or it mentions pants?

I guess you could say Martin kissed Sally on the cheek, but then tried to kiss her mouth and Sally pulled away?

I’d hope so. But this is in the context of a romantic relationship where touching could well be appropriate. Esp given the ages of the kids in the example.

So they definitely ought to be taught about consent, then.

I done think anyone has said they don’t need to be taught about consent have they?

Why are posters equating using a different example to not talking about consent?