To fear new left party is being dominated by trans agenda

[Aliceisagooddog]

I am a Jeremy Corbyn supporter, ex Labour member. I was initially excited at the formation of 'Your Party'. However, after following some initial meetings I am very concerned that the leadership are centring trans 'inclusion' above all else. Zara Sultana stated that there is no place for 'socially conservative' people in the new party!! I think she is deluded if she thinks the left can win without ordinary people who will simply not go along with trans ideology.

I have both an autistic tween (in a special secondary school) and an autistic 18-year-old. I am involved with many parents in the same boat, yet haven't come across a single person who lives in fear of the Big Bad Trans Wolf.

Have they come up with a name yet ..still your party ?

That is true. But doesn't mean most people care. There's lots of things we should care about but dont unless it directly affects us.
In my area not being able to have enough food at the end of the week, or the money to turn on the heating is more worrying.
People should be caring about air pollution (it's off the scale here) and Climate change but they don't. The trans thing is either ignored or handled badly by the same.people who are bigots as its been hijacked by Trump et al.

In real life the majority of people I know barely give it a second thought. Apart from my FIL but he is a frothy racist who votes Reform and watches too much GB news so we tend to ignore him.

I always find it funny when people try and shift the Overton window, fail then naively think they can rebrand and do it another way.

There is a reason many people on the left and right reject this ideology. The latest polls should show them that they are trying to push treacle uphill with a broom.

Which included phone cleaners, and then the entire population was wiped out by a phone-transmitted disease.......

‘For the few, not the many’ then.

As an ex Labour Party voter this stance goes to show that they have very little in common with life as it is lived by the average person
Rightly or wrongly trans issues feature very low in the hierarchy of concerns

Most ordinary people I know don’t want their daughters being forced to get undress in front of men who say they are women, have female sport destroyed by men taking women’s spaces, or get referred to as ‘cervix havens’ or ‘menstruators’ because some men want to appropriate female language.

I think it is true that most people don’t think about what trans means - until they are confronted by it then they are quite clear they don’t like having these bigoted transactivists trying to force their weird beliefs on everyone else.

Everyone knows it is impossible to change sex and no one believes a man who says he is a woman actually is one - that is why even the most fervent ideologists don’t treat them like women but as special men.

I agree with this but doing it against the current backdrop of Reform is absolute insanity. With first past the post it will literally hand the country to Reform.

They’re kind of a political MLM.

Dont need to win, just need enough new members to keep paying my wages while I rally against corporations, the majority, science and rally for taxes, minorities and feelings.

Most ordinary left wing people I know are deeply concerned about how powerful the trans community are. While they all agree trans people should be treated with dignity and respect they do not believe that means women lose single sex spaces or the ability to compete safely in sport.

They are too frightened to say this out loud for fear of their losing jobs.

They do.
They are just terrified of speaking out because of the fear of being called names for believing in biology.

Why on earth would anyone put themselves at risk of the fury of the loopy left?

They know men can't become women.

They are totally irrelevant whatever their beliefs. Jezza needs to retire and spend his time writing angry, ranty books which nobody buys.

Thanks for this update on what they’re up to. This is great news; will keep them busy and out of the way of the grownups.

I agree completely. I have autistic daughters. So many of their friends are questioning their identity and trying to transition it is scary. I’m not religious but I do want to thank God or someone that my children have not gone down this route. One of them believes you can change sex and the other knows you can’t change sex but knows you can’t talk about it in case you’re called a bigot. It causes huge anxiety for her.

It's certainly the case that those strongly embroiled in the politics of a single issue tend to overestimate how much general support there is for their position. The thought of "there's loads of people who agree with me but they're just too frightened to speak out" is something I remember card-carrying communists saying in the 80s and Tommy Robinson supporters saying it today.

Most people really don't give that much of a shit about politics, particularly if it's an area of politics that they see as a niche issue that they don't believe will directly affect them. While their perception of what is a niche issue and how much direct effect it will have on them is very much up for debate, if that's how someone sees it then it is likely to be of little consequence to them.

Delighted that there’s now one party to scoop up all the crazy ideas in one place. And splits the Labour vote to boot 🎉

You're probably right. Just as people who don't live in social housing probably don't recognise the issues about the desperately poor state of much social housing stock and the difficulties in getting a roof over your head when you need it. And people who don't have an elderly relative with complex medical needs probably don't stay up at night worrying about how badly the NHS and local council social services are failing them. And the state of schools and widespread demoralisation of teachers isn't the top of the agenda for people who don't have school-aged children.

I care. So do my friends. I don’t want my 9 year old DD getting changed with ‘Maisie’ in the school changing room. He was born a boy and is a boy. It’s confusing to her.

The left spend most of their time tying themselves up in knots regarding ideologies, it has always been thus. I was a trade Union steward, it was about my workers rights first and foremost. It did however mean I spent a lot of time round the left, my favourite was being called a reformist cunt plus told I only got a lot of signatures for a petition because I was young and pretty. Thanks comrade, the most sexist men I have ever met have been left wing, they just attempt to hide it. The internal fighting was pitiful, it was like being in a zoo.

But what @OnlyMabelInTheBuilding has written is the only real outcome it is splitting the Labour vote, it’s what Reform did to the Conservative vote.

Corbyn is a decent old cove. But the things that made him a crap leader of the Labour party haven't changed. As James Carville said all those years ago - ' It's the Economy, stupid'.

Don't get sucked into culture wars , they only benefit the Right.

I said earlier that I don’t expect this new party to get off the ground because Corbyn & Sultana obviously can’t stand each other, and look what has happened today :

https://order-order.com/2025/09/18/corbyn-and-sultana-at-war-over-your-party-membership-launch/

Really?

If it's corbins party
Why did he invite someone he doesn't agree with their policies to be a main person