Faking a protest - utterly pointless.

[UninterestedBeing12]

I was at the last night of the proms. I go if I can be bothered to get through the process of getting a ticket.

I've been a handful of times in the last few years. This time was pretty exceptional.

If any of you saw it, the entire auditorium is filled with EU flags and people wearing EU berets.

If you watch it, it looks like a staged protest. It looks deliberate that all these people brought these flags with them to make a point, and it always looks like that.

But here's the thing every single time I go there is a pressure group that attends. I'm sure many of them don't even have tickets to the event. I think they attend just to hang around outside the hall and hassle, people actually going.

They come armed with masses of EU flags and these hats and they literally don't leave anyone alone handing them out.

The queue starts forming for the arena and gallery quite early before five pm. This pressure group, don't stop combing the queue and approaching anyone they can to hand out these free EU flags and hats.

Most people just take them because they're being handed out for free. Especially if they haven't brought their own flag So they've got something to wave. Equally I saw a few of them had been thrown in the bin.

But this group is so persistent, it actually gets quite oppressive. I think in the hour I was in the queue, I told somebody from this group. about five or six times no thank you to an EU flag. I voted remain but enough is enough, the vote was nearly a decade ago.

Watching the Last night of the proms it looks very much like a protest with all these eu flags filling the arena in particular. But here's the thing there was no organisation there.

None of these people brought those flags with them. They were literally handed out by the same pressure group that attend every year and don't leave people in the queue alone constantly trying to push these flags and hats onto people. I could see a few people took them just to be left alone and then threw them in the bin later on in the queue.

What is the point of creating a fake protest or making a fake statement that isn't actually there.

None of those people got up that morning and decided they were all going to bring eu flags to the last night of the proms. Virtually no one had brought one with them. They were all handed them out by a group in the queue for free. Almost no one decided to take a EU flag to the proms.

But they did bring their own flags to the venue. They got given one in the queue, that was then their flag, which they then decided to take it into the venue, and they then decided to wave it about. You said it yourself that there were a few dumped in bins so it was obviously open to anybody to not take it into the venue or not wave it about if they so wished. Just sounds like the protest group were canny and knew their audience. I'll hazard a guess that if it were swastika flags or Tommy Robinson flags the result would have been very different - it's not a matter of dozy prom goers thinking 'Ooh PRETTY starry flag, me now got something to wave about, goodee'.

This is yet another example of people allowing their outrage to get in the way of the FACTS.

Unless, of course the OP is happy about it being much more difficult for touring musicians to work in Europe since Brexit.

Far too easy to ASK someone handing out the flags whey they are doing it. Failing that, Google. One would think that people would be curious... but no, some are just on default outrage.

Maybe they don’t bring their own because they know they usually get handed out at the venue?

As a parent of two musicians I can confirm that Brexit has indeed caused them massive problems. I'm delighted that a music festival is pointing it out and frankly a little surprised that the OP didn't know that.

But it isn’t tolerance or diversity when citizens of this country aren’t even allowed to wave their own fucking flag! Where is the tolerance?

By Tommy Robinson flags do you mean the actual flags of England or Great Britain? Or are you imagining flags of his face?

Do you honestly believe that if someone had been handing out union flags or St George’s cross that people would have put them in the bin as if they were nazi flags or Nigel Farage flags?

There were plenty of Union flags visible and being waved at the concert. Some of the players had Union flag ties and the marvellous singer performing Rule Brittania had a glorious dress clearly based on the flag.

Your post is factually incorrect - the concert was a prime example of tolerance and diversity.

I assume you didn't watch it as you know so little about it?

Weird, I could have sworn there was thousands of people in London just the other day waving England flags. I saw them on TV. Are you saying that was fake news and there was no protest?

Very annoying . I’m a remainer too but I hate this sort of virtue-signalling.

But I don’t like people hijacking events for their own purposes. They’re chronic attention-seekers and holier than thou types. Why else would they do it? Weird.

Some people just HAVE to feel morally superior to the rest.

Who isn’t ‘allowed’ to wave their own flag? Who is stopping people?

So after reading this thread it seems the EU flag is good and the English flag bad. They can wave them until their arms fall off, we still won’t be back in the EU by the end of the night.

Where can't people of this country wave their own flag?

Why would you lie about British flags being banned?

Comprehension not your strongest point is it?

Not a single person has said Britsh flags bad

Even if (as you claim) people felt too intimidated to say no to a flag and a beret in the queue, they chose to wave them happily. Or were there secret Euro-Stasi officers in the crowd threatening anyone who didn't wave their flag or wear their beret.

It's a bit like saying that no one organises to wear a poppy, but they are intimidated to do so by people standing in Sainsbury's doorways each year. Therefore no one really supports veterans and it's all fake.

People chose to jubilantly wave EU flags at the Proms. Great to see.

Outstanding - you're making stuff up in your own head and then getting cross about it.

Nobody is ‘stopping people’ but apparently its considered morally superior to wave the flag of the EU, to which we no longer belong, rather than our own national flags. On a thread about flags, wanting to wave one’s own national flag is being likened to a nazi or Tommy Robinson flag. So no, there’s no ‘banning’ as such, but apparently its considered uncouth to want to wave a union flag instead of an EU one.

This is from the Platinum Jubilee celebrations. Seems like people weren’t being discouraged from waving flags there. Or being told they were ‘uncouth’.
It’s so weird when people get outraged about things they’ve invented.

I’m referring to the proms, about which this thread was started. Keep on topic old chap.

So went did it say it was banned?

I saw plenty of Union Jack's at the proms.

Quite fucking right. So why the need to force EU flags on people at the proms?

Who had it forced upon them? The ones who didn’t want to wave them put them in the bin, according to the OP. No forcing going on.

For the avoidance of any doubt.

THERE WERE PLENTY OF UNION FLAGS BEING WAVED AND ON DISPLAY AT THE LAST NIGHT OF THE PROMS CONCERT.

I also haven't seen anyone on this thread complaining about them.

No one is being forced to do anything.

Please stop talking complete bollocks.

You're getting angry at scenarios you're making up in your own head.

They literally walk up and down the length of the queue constantly looking for people to hand it to until we go inside. It's quite intimidating. How many times can you say no before they leave me alone.

You treat them as you would treat someone wanting to sign you up to a new broadband provider or tell you about the love of Jesus: smile sweetly and say no thanks. It's basic adulting.