Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Finished a friendship with a middle aged male friend who aggressively complained about his luxurious life

126 replies

Nicewoman · 12/09/2025 22:54

I finished a 15-year friendship with a male friend (I’ll call him Mr Mediocre) who aggressively complained for the past year about his luxurious life: £1.5m house, wife on £100k, he was in and out of work but bitterly complaining about it, how he thought he should be in a mega paid job and do short hours. He was thick as s and lazy. All his family are healthy, no money worries. I tried to explain that everyone’s situation is 10x times worse than him, do charity work etc, appreciate his life, be grateful for small mercies, but the ungrateful conceited toe-rag just couldn’t get past his extreme conceit & self-obsession. He’s just pathologically greedy. He admitted he had no friends & people avoided him. After I blocked him he tried to text me to have the last word and turned nasty I was ending the friendship. He was just making my blood boil. Now I’ve terminated the friendship I feel 1000x better, but think I wasted a lot of time on a man who I only realised was a total arsehole late in the day. Hope other readers learn from me and as soon as there is red flags, get out immediately & not let things drift on or give people the benefit of the doubt. Some people out there just aren’t nice people, but do a good job of hiding it (for a while, before the mask slips). Incidentally, I have a feeling his wife will hand him divorce papers once his teenage kids leave home & his wealthy parents pop their clogs. Then he’ll be one of those bitter old men living alone, that his own family avoids.

OP posts:
LaundryGarden · 13/09/2025 11:44

@Nicewoman you are genuinely coming across as much odder than this man on this thread. He’s been much the same as long as you’ve known him, so why not think about your own poor judgement and bad taste in acquaintances, rather than starting a thread on the internet inviting other people to join in and pile on and agree that your apparently awful former friend is awful? If you think he’s awful, and have ended the relationship, why the song and dance?

Daygloboo · 13/09/2025 11:45

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 11:20

Thanks. Because in the lead-up to blocking him I was questioning if I was doing the right thing, but I’d given him so many chances to do the right thing, try and improve his character etc. I’m happy now. And in fact when I ghosted him for months he was messaging me and somehow we got back into friendship before his bad traits started showing themselves again. Then I cut him off for good.

Good..Don't get sucked in again. That's what they want..Dont fall for it..Because they only care about them. They don't care about anyone else, even though they will say things to try to drag you back into their orbit. Just dont.

JLou08 · 13/09/2025 11:46

He sounds annoying and self-centred but I don't think it's worthy of the amount of hate and anger you have expressed. If you're happy the friendship is over why are you so angry and hateful towards him? Just move on with your life. Your posts say more about you than they do him.

SouthernFashionista · 13/09/2025 11:47

Nice woman? You sound appalling. I’m sure the guy is delighted to be rid of you. You weren’t any kind of friend to him. You make out like he’s at Richard Branson levels of wealth when he sounds comfortable at best. Ridiculous.

SouthernFashionista · 13/09/2025 11:49

Also. You sound utterly obsessed by this guy. You very clearly haven’t moved on in any sense.

Hoppinggreen · 13/09/2025 11:51

I wouldn't have put up with that for 15 minutes

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 11:51

Zigazigarrr · 13/09/2025 11:37

@Nicewoman firstly you contradict yourself. On the one hand he complains at how awful his life is and then on the other hand he wants to show off - which is it? Secondly the thing is if you are actually at peace of someone having that kind of life you actually just don’t care. My DB makes us look poor even with what we have and his life is just adtonishing. I genuinely don’t care.

No contradiction: he was rich, but he wanted to be even richer. He wanted some mega paid job so he could show off to everyone he was “successful” except he didn’t want to work hard, was lazy and incompetent and dumped on work colleagues as he ran out the door so he could relax at home. His idea of awful was he wasn’t living like some Premiership footballer. So he loved to brag about his rich life, but he felt that wasn’t enough. And you’re right, I have less than him, but I’m happy. I don’t care how rich or poor friends are. I have richer friends and poor friends, but I love their personalities. To him, he was bitter and jealous of neighbours got a new car or good job. He didn’t have a nice personality.

OP posts:
Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 11:53

SouthernFashionista · 13/09/2025 11:47

Nice woman? You sound appalling. I’m sure the guy is delighted to be rid of you. You weren’t any kind of friend to him. You make out like he’s at Richard Branson levels of wealth when he sounds comfortable at best. Ridiculous.

I got him a job and listening to his moaning for years, sympathised with him, made him laugh, cheered him up, educated him, gave him useful knowledge which improved his life, did him favours. I was an excellent friend to him.

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 13/09/2025 11:55

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 11:53

I got him a job and listening to his moaning for years, sympathised with him, made him laugh, cheered him up, educated him, gave him useful knowledge which improved his life, did him favours. I was an excellent friend to him.

I think you should ask yourself why you did all that

LaundryGarden · 13/09/2025 12:00

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 11:53

I got him a job and listening to his moaning for years, sympathised with him, made him laugh, cheered him up, educated him, gave him useful knowledge which improved his life, did him favours. I was an excellent friend to him.

But WHY? By your own account you wasted 15 years on someone awful, and now you seem unable to take any responsibility for that, and just keep banging on about his awfulness.

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:06

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 13/09/2025 09:16

He sounds awful, and I know what you mean about how sometimes you just suddenly see someone differently from one moment to the next. And if you helped get him a job then you have actually been a good friend in the past.

I will say this though - when people are having a moan, they usually aren't asking for advice, or for someone to put things in perspective for them. It's best to say mmm.

Sigh. Yes, he did rant, and I can understand someone wanting to offload, but not fix the problem. I guess I’m a person that if I had a problem and looked to friends for advice. I would be grateful for their advice and fix the problem. If you have a leaking pipe you fix it, you don’t ignore it right, until the house explodes. I have other friends who offload, but somehow they seem better kinder characters and are nice people, so happy to listen to them forever. Also, if they have problems, it’s generally not of their making.

OP posts:
nomas · 13/09/2025 12:06

I look back on some of the friendships I had when I was in my 20s and how I accepted the toxic traits of some friends.

Nowadays, when I see a red flag in someone, I withdraw but often the person doesn’t realise that I see them differently.

My advice is to block and delete him everywhere.

SaratogaFilly · 13/09/2025 12:08

NoahDia · 13/09/2025 00:19

I find it hard to believe you were any sort of friend after reading that hate filled bile.

Very strange post to be honest.

I thought the same. So bizarre.

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 13/09/2025 12:11

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 11:53

I got him a job and listening to his moaning for years, sympathised with him, made him laugh, cheered him up, educated him, gave him useful knowledge which improved his life, did him favours. I was an excellent friend to him.

Wow you deserve a medal 🏅 doing all that for a man you so clearly loathe. 🙄

Something tells me you fancied him, he knocked you back but you hung around on the off chance he'd change his mind after you fell over yourself trying to help him and improve him. You even have the arrogance to say you educated him like he's some stupid man. If his parents have so much money they would have bought the best education that they could for him so he wouldn't need you educating him.

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:16

LaundryGarden · 13/09/2025 09:19

Well, there’s also another deeply weird Mn trend where ‘friend’ appears to mean ‘someone I know but don’t much like, and about whom I don’t have a good word to say’.

Edited

Sometimes you can “know” someone but you’re stuck with them perhaps? Workplace, school, in-laws, neighbours, the list is endless.

OP posts:
BengalBangle · 13/09/2025 12:16

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 01:18

I was busy with my life and sometimes weeks and months went by when I didn’t hear from him. He usually contacted me when he wanted favours.

Another male friend who was after 'favours' from you?!

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:29

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 13/09/2025 12:11

Wow you deserve a medal 🏅 doing all that for a man you so clearly loathe. 🙄

Something tells me you fancied him, he knocked you back but you hung around on the off chance he'd change his mind after you fell over yourself trying to help him and improve him. You even have the arrogance to say you educated him like he's some stupid man. If his parents have so much money they would have bought the best education that they could for him so he wouldn't need you educating him.

Sorry. Didn’t fancy him at any stage. He kept asking and badgering for favours as I was the person in the know & have a big contact list. I am a nice person and will help out someone if they need help because at the time I thought well, he’s got a wife and kids to support (this was before he said his wife is on £100k, that he doesn’t need to work, but his wife tells him to get out the house & not bother her, that his parents give him any money he wants, that he and his family have about 3-4 foreign holidays a year and his kids want for nothing. And I’ve helped out quite a lot of people without expecting anything back. He was a stupid arrogant man and I did help him. I didn’t expect a medal and I didn’t expect gratitude, just happy to help someone along. His parents paid for private school as he got terrible grades in state school, but he didn’t do well even at private school, got average grades, and failed in every workplace as he just comes across as thick, lazy and entitled and worst of all, incompetent.

OP posts:
Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:33

nomas · 13/09/2025 12:06

I look back on some of the friendships I had when I was in my 20s and how I accepted the toxic traits of some friends.

Nowadays, when I see a red flag in someone, I withdraw but often the person doesn’t realise that I see them differently.

My advice is to block and delete him everywhere.

Yep, thanks. I’m getting better at seeing red flags, and quicker. Fair play to you that you managed to withdraw without them knowing what you think of them. I tried to do it as politely as possible saying I was busy.

OP posts:
namechangetheworld · 13/09/2025 12:34

No chance this is real anyway, but friends are entitled to vent and you're welcome to ditch them if you don't want that kind of friendship.

If this was a woman who previously seemed content with her life and suddenly started acting out of character and moaning constantly, we would be suggesting she was depressed, being abused by her husband, or going through something personal we weren't privy to.

But because it's a bloke he's suddenly an 'entitled toerag'. Gotcha.

And yeah, if it is real, it sounds like you fancied him, thought you were in with a chance when he complained about his wife to you, and are now bitter it hasn't worked out so have decided to label him as 'toxic'. Your wording screams 'ex relationship' not 'ex friendship'.

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:36

BengalBangle · 13/09/2025 12:16

Another male friend who was after 'favours' from you?!

LOL. 😂😂😂 If only lol - not!!

the reality was can you give me the name of the contact who can interview me at xyz and see if they can get me a job there.

OP posts:
chunkybear · 13/09/2025 12:39

were you friends with Prince Harry?!

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:41

LaundryGarden · 13/09/2025 11:44

@Nicewoman you are genuinely coming across as much odder than this man on this thread. He’s been much the same as long as you’ve known him, so why not think about your own poor judgement and bad taste in acquaintances, rather than starting a thread on the internet inviting other people to join in and pile on and agree that your apparently awful former friend is awful? If you think he’s awful, and have ended the relationship, why the song and dance?

The guy in question is older than me. And yes, I agree this post has gone on longer than anticipated/it needed to. The post started off as a short musing at midnight. I wasn’t expecting any comments really. I should have just said sharks around, avoid and seeing if anyone else experienced the same, clearly they have. But this is stating the obvious really.

OP posts:
LaundryGarden · 13/09/2025 12:46

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:16

Sometimes you can “know” someone but you’re stuck with them perhaps? Workplace, school, in-laws, neighbours, the list is endless.

Well, what you’ve said is exactly the issue.

No one is ‘stuck with’ a friend. You might be stuck with a colleague until you change jobs, or a neighbour until one of you moved, but those people aren’t your friends unless you like them and befriend them. You don’t need to interact with them with anything other than the civility appropriate to the workplace or a nod when you’re putting out the bins.

Friends are chosen. They enrich your life, you enjoy their company, you’re happy to have them get in contact.

You chose this guy, who appears to have been awful all along, wasted fifteen years on him, and now you seem to want the internet to agree with you that you were a great friend to a loser. Respectfully, that’s on you. Raise your standards.

Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:53

namechangetheworld · 13/09/2025 12:34

No chance this is real anyway, but friends are entitled to vent and you're welcome to ditch them if you don't want that kind of friendship.

If this was a woman who previously seemed content with her life and suddenly started acting out of character and moaning constantly, we would be suggesting she was depressed, being abused by her husband, or going through something personal we weren't privy to.

But because it's a bloke he's suddenly an 'entitled toerag'. Gotcha.

And yeah, if it is real, it sounds like you fancied him, thought you were in with a chance when he complained about his wife to you, and are now bitter it hasn't worked out so have decided to label him as 'toxic'. Your wording screams 'ex relationship' not 'ex friendship'.

Edited

Story is real. Never fancied the bloke. Assume the wife is nice. Friendship was work based. His moaning gradually got worse as the years went by. I don’t think his wife was abusing him, he said nice things about his wife and marriage, but he hated the rest of his family, he wasn’t depressed or on medications, or having mental health issues. Rest assured, I did ask him if there was anything else going on that was troubling him, and gave him space and time to answer that in his own time. I was actually a very good friend to him getting him a job and giving him some self-worth. You have a point in equality: I always say when it’s on the TV about domestic violence, that men suffer from it as well as women and try and make things neutral as possible. This isn’t an anti-man post. I just don’t like selfish self-obsessed people who moan about nothing when they have it so good, whether they are men or women.

OP posts:
Nicewoman · 13/09/2025 12:59

LaundryGarden · 13/09/2025 09:05

OP, you’re coming across worse than him at this point. Why the endless paragraphs of vitriol about someone you considered a friend for a long time? Maybe give some thought to why you apparently didn’t notice or care about any of this for so long?

Was too busy with my own life so ignored him for long periods. Then I helped him out and he was messaging me every day/every few days.

OP posts: