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Scouse girls?!

116 replies

Cwoffeelover1 · 09/09/2025 20:02

Why are they sooo glam half of them I’ve seen look like actual models and why are they so so thin?

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Pruveil · 10/09/2025 13:32

PrissyGalore · 10/09/2025 10:22

I agree with all of this. I recently went to a very glam Liverpool wedding and although I’d bought an expensive dress, I felt frumpy. I didn’t wear a hat-mistake! Most of the women wore evening dress and looked amazing. Lots of plumped lips and hair extensions-in fact my dd got asked if her hair was real or fantastic extensions! We have Scouse rellies and they are quite socially conservative. Even well off people clean their own houses as they don’t like the thought of strangers going through their knicker drawer. Their relationships are very close but parents have a lot of say in their kids’ lives and like to live close and long for their kids to move back if they have left for any reason. The people we know are very clannish-lovely-very funny and friendly but very clannish.

Plus, always wear black to a funeral! Friends from Berkshire were coming to Liverpool for a funeral and the 2 women said they were going to wear bright prints to be “uplifting”. I advised against it but they didn’t listen. Then very quickly realised they’d mistake when they arrived at the church!

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 13:34

NuovaPilbeam · 10/09/2025 07:45

I can see they put in a lot of effort but its not a style that appeals to me - I don't the heavy make up/bleached hair/fake tan look and "looking glam" seems to mean having your bum & boobs out rather than being dressed in a lovely formal outfit.

Fair play to them if they like it but I don't aspire to it at all.

Me neither. How depressing that women 'bond' over appealing to the male gaze and wearing ten tons of makeup. Grim.

Skybluepinky · 10/09/2025 13:48

They are all different sizes, no idea why you think they aren’t, a trip to Liverpool would change your mind.

5128gap · 10/09/2025 13:49

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 13:28

What do you mean?

I imagine they don't like the positivity around something that is essentially associated with WC culture, for whatever reason, either because they are part of the group and dislike the stereotype, or are not and resent the praise of others. So they are suggesting that the posters are patronising rather than genuinely admiring the women. Which is a shame really, as it seems to me (a WC woman, though sadly not a glam scouser) a positive and warm thread in the main, where people are celebrating a culture often overlooked or belittled on MN.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:01

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 13:34

Me neither. How depressing that women 'bond' over appealing to the male gaze and wearing ten tons of makeup. Grim.

Grim is women judging other women based on what they like to wear and bond over. Grim is "not like other girls" behaviour.

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:11

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:01

Grim is women judging other women based on what they like to wear and bond over. Grim is "not like other girls" behaviour.

No, sorry. I will definitely judge women who put artificial beauty on a pedestal and who are vapid and superficial.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:12

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:11

No, sorry. I will definitely judge women who put artificial beauty on a pedestal and who are vapid and superficial.

And I'll judge women who think they are better than others just because of how much make-up they choose to wear or not wear. Vapid and superficial people are people who think that what you wear determines your personality.

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:14

5128gap · 10/09/2025 13:49

I imagine they don't like the positivity around something that is essentially associated with WC culture, for whatever reason, either because they are part of the group and dislike the stereotype, or are not and resent the praise of others. So they are suggesting that the posters are patronising rather than genuinely admiring the women. Which is a shame really, as it seems to me (a WC woman, though sadly not a glam scouser) a positive and warm thread in the main, where people are celebrating a culture often overlooked or belittled on MN.

Oh, that could be possible. I'm not going to lie, though. I agree with them in that case. It does seem to be glamourising something that isn't positive, women whose lives revolve around their looks and spending hours on grooming and makeup. I say that as someone who is very image conscious myself. I think it does women a disservice to think that they won't be judged for living out certain stereotypes. I have seen it in more than one profession.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 10/09/2025 14:16

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 13:28

It's not in the least bit sad. Would you say it was sad if a girl only wanted to wear football strips and scruffy old t-shirts? No, because girls (and their mums) only get judged if they like typically feminine things.

I meant they shouldn't be obsessed with their looks etc at that age. If they just wore a dress or football kit I wouldn't care but they shouldn't be bothered by their hair or nails until much older.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:18

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 10/09/2025 14:16

I meant they shouldn't be obsessed with their looks etc at that age. If they just wore a dress or football kit I wouldn't care but they shouldn't be bothered by their hair or nails until much older.

So when you see little girls heading to school with their hair done nicely in braids with ribbons you feel sad? Or is that OK because middle class girls have their hair done nicely for school?

curtaintwitcher78 · 10/09/2025 14:19

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:11

No, sorry. I will definitely judge women who put artificial beauty on a pedestal and who are vapid and superficial.

Be careful of stereotyping. My niece is very intelligent and ambitious. She just graduated with a first and has a better job than me already. She is also very glamorous. I assume she just gets up earlier than I do. I am always well turned out but next to her I'm a scruffbag. She is not vapid in the slightest. A lot of these young women prefer to impress each other than men.

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:21

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:18

So when you see little girls heading to school with their hair done nicely in braids with ribbons you feel sad? Or is that OK because middle class girls have their hair done nicely for school?

Oh, come on. There's a difference between nice braids and 'toddlers and tiaras' full glam. One is age appropriate, one is not (and is catnip for pedos)

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:21

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:14

Oh, that could be possible. I'm not going to lie, though. I agree with them in that case. It does seem to be glamourising something that isn't positive, women whose lives revolve around their looks and spending hours on grooming and makeup. I say that as someone who is very image conscious myself. I think it does women a disservice to think that they won't be judged for living out certain stereotypes. I have seen it in more than one profession.

That's interesting because the two most glamourous and well-groomed women I know are a Professor of Microbiology and a Senior Partner of a Law Firm.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:23

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:21

Oh, come on. There's a difference between nice braids and 'toddlers and tiaras' full glam. One is age appropriate, one is not (and is catnip for pedos)

I said nothing about tiaras, I said that girls in Liverpool are well groomed from a young age, including wearing nice clothes and having their hair done nicely. Paedophilia is not caused by clothing.

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:27

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:21

That's interesting because the two most glamourous and well-groomed women I know are a Professor of Microbiology and a Senior Partner of a Law Firm.

There's 'glamorous and well groomed' and then there are girls like in the picture a PP posted.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 10/09/2025 14:31

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:18

So when you see little girls heading to school with their hair done nicely in braids with ribbons you feel sad? Or is that OK because middle class girls have their hair done nicely for school?

You know what I meant.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:39

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:27

There's 'glamorous and well groomed' and then there are girls like in the picture a PP posted.

Oh? Because the two I mentioned both wear full fake tan, dyed blonde hair, full make-up, false eyelashes, groomed eyebrows, regular lip fillers and botox and seem to still manage to be highly successful and intelligent women. Amazing.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:42

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 10/09/2025 14:31

You know what I meant.

Nope, I only see someone applying different standards to the perceived morality of women and girls based on how they dress and the class divides that impact that.

PurpleChrayn · 10/09/2025 14:43

Because every second shop is an aesthetics clinic! Can’t go 100 yards without passing one.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 10/09/2025 14:44

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:42

Nope, I only see someone applying different standards to the perceived morality of women and girls based on how they dress and the class divides that impact that.

I don't want my eight year caring more about nails and how she looks than just being a child. I genuinely don't care about class etc. They should be playing not sitting getting dolled up to look good.

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 14:46

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:42

Nope, I only see someone applying different standards to the perceived morality of women and girls based on how they dress and the class divides that impact that.

Oh, nonsense.

Dragonflydancer · 10/09/2025 14:52

I dont think they're particularly good looking.

Just polished, if you like that aesthetic

AliceMaforethought · 10/09/2025 15:44

Dragonflydancer · 10/09/2025 14:52

I dont think they're particularly good looking.

Just polished, if you like that aesthetic

Impossible to tell what they look like under all that makeup. I find it very hard to tell girls who present themselves that way apart, there is a certain uniformity about the look. As for all the talk earlier about willowy redheaded natural beauties, that's all very well but you get people like that everywhere, not just in Liverpool.

CoffeeCantata · 10/09/2025 16:02

I’m going further back than some posters on here. My grandparents in Cheshire had 2 evacuees from Liverpool during the war and from photos they and their families were all good-looking in a classic Irish way. So for me, it’s not just about OTT make-up and hair. I’ve met many scousers over the years and they’ve been attractive people. Just my experience. - not a scientific sample!😀

Superhansrantowindsor · 10/09/2025 17:09

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 10/09/2025 10:20

I agree. I bet no-one has ever seen this. Sounds like a Catherine Tate sketch from the noughties. Women walking around Primark with their rollers in?! Did they have their pyjamas on too @Superhansrantowindsor ? Wink

Never seen anyone in Liverpool with PJ’s on. I don’t know why you think I am lying about this. I am not criticising them. Even my own dd goes out of the house with her heatless curler tube thing wrapped round her head. She is also exceptionally glamorous.