Mini pride....Is it going too far?

[WhatShoes4me]

I was just looking for an event at a local historic house near me. I came across a mini pride day. Had a look and it's for LGBQT families.

I personally think it's OTT. Why is this needed? Can't they explain things to their own dcs? Why make a big thing of it?

Or aibu and it's a great idea?

@Hungryhippa and @IllBeLookingAtTheMoon thank you for your views. That's actually helpful.

Little kids come with parents though

I know same sex couples who haven't been part of school social circles, who's kids friends haven't been allowed to sleep over etc.

The reality is we aren't in a space where two men could hold hands on a park bench without a visceral sense of threat while watching their kids play in the same way a hetro couple can.

We've moved on from the 90s but not so much where it's a complete non issue. Look at the comments above about fads, people going too far, or indoctrination

There's a headline literally today about a lesbian teacher who killed herself over homophobic bullying by teachers at the school.

Films are still being publicly complained and campaigned about for even referencing the idea that a child might have two mums. Look at the backlash against lightyear, where a character going to space literally just referenced her wife, in a catalogue of disney films of married couples, hundreds of kisses, and depictions of hetro families. Even ignoring the outright boycotts, campaigns , mumsnet is full of people complaining that a single depiction is too much, diversity for the sake of diversity, ramming it down people's throats or unnecessary

Are you ok?

Great post. Wish more people were as sensible.

It’s for families.

Leave. Them. Alone. FFS.

Homophobia is very much a thing of the present Gender ideology is the new form of it.
Imagine saying that men can be lesbians and women can be gay men and being called progressive for it, and even celebrated by your local historic house.
I wouldn't touch it especially with kids.

So it isn't OTT according to more than half (just).

I'm surprised given the comments that it wasn't pretty unanimous that IABU?

My (gay and married) DB takes his son to an LGB families camp every summer. My DBIL works in an industry that bans summer leave, so he doesn't get to go with them.

As much as anything else, it's an opportunity for the parents to share their experiences with other LGB parents and for the kids to meet other kids with similar family set ups in a non-judgemental group.

It's not all rainbow flags and terribly camp dancing, it's forest school, cook outs, silent discos and more.

That sounds brilliant and I'd fully support these pride events if that's what they were, but they aren't, they're all about the T which as I said, is actually homophobic.

You'll find a lot of people don't want to voice those views but will vote them

It often comes up about things like representation in adverts, films etc. Very few people will come out and own the view or hold it up to scrutiny (mostly imo because they know it doesn't hold much water)

Which to be honest is representative of my experiences of homophobia. Most people aren't vocally disagreeing or heckling us on the streets but hold quiet beliefs and aren't quite willing to meet half way and have a low tolerance. You'll find there's a lot of attitude of "what more could they want?"

I can think of 2 recent examples where the vote has shown this. One was about the ridiculousness of an abroad resort being advertised as lgbt friendly, the comments were initially full of how ridiculous. Multiple people with experience came on to say actually it can be quite important as international travel can be a mine field for same sex families, the country Its in is particularly known for being difficult (despite being an eu country) etc. A few posters stuck out to argue it but mostly people just stopped commenting but continued to vote that it was silly to have that on the website

Equally the votes are always like that about representation in films. That its too much. Most people can't actually substantiate it or explain it but vote with their gut

There was even some damming votes about if it was okay to have same sex couples on strictly.

Its the same on immigration threads. People don't own the views, or want them fact checked.

You do realise gay people have kids right? And may wish to take their children to family friendly events?

Nothing wrong with pride. I am sad that people would think there was in 2025.

As always, it is open to everyone. Allies are welcome.

Same sex family recognition- yes.
Same way there can be single-parent parent family tickets and support for disabled visitors.

Not the other alphabet parts, as that is not supportive and goes against L, G and B having choices based on sexual preferences and is based on make-believe born in the wrong body nonsense.

You haven't really specified what exactly this event is offering.

Advice around their own sexuality?
Information for parents?
Support for families with same sex parents?
Education for all about diversity?
Design your own rainbow flag?
Identify the flavour of this lube?

What exactly is it? Then we can decide if it's appropriate or necessary, surely?

I do not get the obsession with people telling the world about their private lives.
Why are there no days for people into fetish - dressing up as a baby - swinging - scat etc
I am into one of the above but I do not need anyone else's approval or support
Personally I cannot care less what people do in their private lives it is of no interest to me

See I gave you the benefit of the doubt until this post.

You said you've learned from starting this thread but now you seem to be drumming up others to come and argue against it?

Erm maybe because the things you mention actually are part of your private life and done in the privacy of a bedroom and not out in the open for people to comment and pass judgement on

Same sex couples however, would like to hold hands in public, they would like to raise their children, and they would like to get married, all without public debate, opinion and judgement, which they are subjected to all the time.

Apples and oranges.

Again this always pops up in threads like this
Its sad to be equating it with a fetish

There's an assumption that you only know people are gay because they are doing some horrendous pda in public, or because they are shouting about it.

In most offices you are aware of who is married, who has children. I could hazard a guess at the home set up at all of my children's class because of seeing family at the gates and school events.

Hetro couples exist loudly all around us and are easily identifiable. People just tune them out but notice when people do the same thing. If you are out you recognise families, couples etc all around you

In a recent holiday to a country that was uncomfortable for us (despite research!) There were multiple inane things that "outed" us and caused uncomfortable interactions from staff this included

• our kids loudly referring to us both as mum in the pool. Multiple incidents of kids calling us mums actually
• mentioning paying from a joint account in a restaurant
• someone asking where my husband was (clocking wedding ring) to be friendly

-checking into an activity with the same last names
-booking into the hotel and bed set up being questioned (and subsequently cleaning staff)

We were constantly aware not to sit too close, and do inane couple things eg rub suncream in, push your hair out your eyes. We were watching fireworks and naturally snuggled in and had to seperate
We don't want to bump and grind on the sunbeds.

Even without the normal couple stuff of holding hands or a peck on the cheek etc there are ways that couples interact where you sense there closeness

These are all things noticeable but just seen as completely the norm for a hetro couple. There's no examination of it, no risk from it.

Inevitably this conversation always ends up with people insisting they are never within 3 foot of their husband in public, and interact in a way more akin to business associates at all times

Again it's wonderful if you treat all couples as completely equal but the world, and the uk isn't at a place where this is the norm

Take two male parents. Do you genuinely think theres not a single place where they couldnt interact as a couple as a hetro person does? Do you genuinely think all their school friends and their parents hold zero form of reservation or views about it? If you had a gay son would there be places where you'd suggest he doesn't mention his husband where your daughter could mention hers?

That’s not a valid comparison but you already know that. You’re just trying to shoehorn the idea that being in a same sex relationship is a fetish. Hope you’re happy with your wee self.

Yup, you’d love to be “right”, wouldn’t you op? 🙄

No it's actually made me think about it.

I still don't get why they have to put T but they obviously felt the need? 🙄

Why are there no days for people into fetish - dressing up as a baby - swinging - scat etc

I think all that comes under the TQ+ bit.

@WhatShoes4me What do you mean by “going to far”? Don’t like the idea of them “rubbing it in your face”? Worried your child might see a lesbian couple holding hands? 😮 your post comes across as homophobic. As a same sex family, we don’t get many events specifically for us - pride has been taken over by TRAs and gender ideology fuck wits and is no longer a suitable place for children. I think it’s a great idea for children of same sex families to celebrate where they come from. Diversity should be celebrated. Literally everything is geared towards heteronormative people - festivals, family events, tv shows, books. It’s annoying that my kids don’t often get to see a representation of their own family. You need to check your privilege and be grateful for the huge variety of activities and events that represent you and be mindful that not everyone can relate to that representation. This is why these events are important