Angela Rayner tax fail

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But it’s ok because she was just badly advised.
I’ll remember that excuse next time I fill in my tax return.

But still confused about one can have 2 main homes?

If the conveyancer was responsible then she has the right to seek redress from them - watch and see if she does ?

She neither owns or rents property in the constituency but claims it is her primary residence. That is questionable, but may be excusable.

and has also this excuse to not have to pay council tax on the London grace and favour flat. To be honest I think that stinks even more than the stamp duty issue.

Totally agree. I am not astute in property matters but if I owned a property (even in trust for a child) and was buying another, I would be investigating everything and getting advice for everything in writng.

Ahhh now I understand why I'm seeing so many reels/other website forums stating put your home into trust.

My daughter is adhd and heavily dyslexic, does that count as disabled???

She brought another property. She has another house in Trust. She is also the Government in Charge Housing Minister and the DPM.

What could possibly go wrong if you just employ a bog standard online convayancing firm?? Any company worth their salt would have put their best person on the sale.

I strongly suspect she didnt give out the right info when the sale went through and will claim that was an error of judgement, she will learn from it, show sympathy for others who make the same sort of error and then this terrible Labour government will shaft us in the next Budget.

I do think though RR will not thank her for putting this sort of thing on the front pages just when she is going for people's homes.

FGS - just put 1p on income tax.

Whether she can still be Housing Minister is for the future

Aside from her tax dodging...why is not living in her constituency?
I thought MPs were supposed to have their main residence in their constituency and then a second flat/ place near Westminster?
I know they can have "holiday homes" but she has said this flat in Hove was her primary residence.
If I was one of her constituents I'd be furious

All politicians are sorry when they are caught out trying to deceive people and not pay tax.
she is a disgrace and needs to go!

A simple explanation is that the conveyancing solicitor checked whether she owned any other property and she said no, believing she had sold her share of the family home. However, having already been embroiled in one property scandal, it would have been prudent to have sought advice on her wider tax position, given her prominent public position.

She's put the house in trust to avoid IHT presumably and possibly because of her divorce and what assets go where (perhaps to ring fence the house for her children). If the child is the only beneficiary of the trust then there are good tax benefits if the child is classed as a vulnerable beneficiary.

I respect parent that keep the kids on one home and do the swapping in and out thing. I really do if they can make it work

Not much choice if the house is adapted for the needs of a disabled child but brilliant that they obviously make it work

I just think this is another HUGE own goal by labour. Regardless of your views on the complexities of AR’s tax situation she should have made absolutely sure she got this right. Yet she didn’t.
As the deputy PM and SoS for housing I don’t think you can just shrug your shoulders and apologise. It’s incredibly undermining, looks like she is grifting and reflects very poorly.
Let's be honest, we all know she has only sought the appropriate specialist advice because she was caught out by The Telegraph.
She campaigned against the corruption of the last government - very vocally.
She now looks every inch as bad.

She never needed to disclose anything about her sons private information to do with his disability. She could have simply said: “I followed legal advice at the time, it now looks like I underpaid, I’ve referred myself to the authorities, and I’ll settle whatever is owed.” That’s factual, accountable, and doesn’t require personal disclosure.

Also, rather than crying, she could’ve used the interview to explain why she ‘emptied her life savings’ to spend £800k on a seaside flat hundreds of miles from a) her children and b) her constituents. There was some mealy mouthed rubbish that her team put out to garner sympathy by saying she bought it to get space from her stressful divorce. I don’t think many people, particularly those of us in a similar situation, will think that’s a reasonable answer.
Even if she’d paid the right amount of stamp duty on it, it’s still not a good look considering what she’s said previously about her values.

She has admitted it was wrong, so what is the debate? She needs to go. It is impossible for anyone with a conscience to stay in that role.

It is not an excuse that she had bad advice. HMRC fine you and I for that sort of thing because it is against the rules.

And further to the horror, she is the flippin housing minister - you can't make it up - if even she doesn't understand the taxation system, god help the rest of us

Agreed - but quite a drive from Hove though, was there not one for sale a bit closer! 😂

When the proprietor of the Daily Heil chooses to pay uk tax, rather than pretending to live in Monaco, the press can throw some stones about tax avoidance. Let us remember Sunak's wife was non-resident for tax-purposes, while he held a green card as he was allegedly going to live in the US. Michael Ashcroft (the minister for Belize) found he was unable to take a seat in the Lords ,while being non-resident for tax. More recently Badenoch was found to be lying about being offered a place to study medicine at Stamford when she was 16. The tories conveniently forget there own sleaze,

Yet she now lives in Hove. 4+ hours away.

That's weird for a mother concerned about their disabled child

Maybe a convenient cover story though - "my disabled child is the reason - you can't criticise me now"

Yes. There was someone very vocal about tax avoidance wasn't there. Particularly about Rishi Sunaks wife (who wasn't even in government). Someone who said tax avoidance (avoidance mind, not evasion) was terrible and killed people.

Can you guess who that was?

Her son is in Ashton. She has brought a property in Hove. Couldnt be much further away. it must be a 5 hour drive or so? How can she do dual care?

Surely she would have brought another property in Ashton if she was in and out of the house as she said in the Rigby interview

I don’t think she’s done anything wrong at all, except her judgmentalism of others who use legal tax structures for legitimate purposes, just like she has.

She’s admitted she owes the £40k tax

It was a straightforward property transaction. All the conveyancer needed to do for the SDLT1 was ask Rayner a series of questions. The key one being the one that determines the type of property. Type 1 for residential, Type 4 for additional residential, on which the SDLT second home surcharge is due.

Is it more likely that (a) Rayner said she didn't have an interest in another property, and the conveyancer selected the wrong class of property, or (b) Rayner gave the conveyancer the wrong information. Either deliberately or by omission. My money is on the latter.

I doubt she had bad advice anyway. It’s a decent advisor. So another lie if so.

Can the Labour devotees stop saying she has done nothing wrong! She has admitted she has....

These people make these crazy laws and if they are too stupid or dishonest to understand or follow them they need to resign.