To think that people who say diets don’t work aren’t really trying

[amijumping]

I’ve lost a stone since having A baby got another stone to loose. It’s Been fucking hard I felt hungry for my usual snacks and rubbish for ages and still do but I’ve had to really get the willpower out to actually loose some weight. At first I tried to just easy a hit healthier but soon realised it wasn’t working as I wasn’t actually reducing my calories. Science states time and a time again it’s calories in vs calories out I’ve managed too lose weight slowly and sensibly by tracking everything that passes my mouth it’s hard it’s boring sometimes not fun but it’s the only way it’s worked. Otherwise I’ll think I’m being healthy and low calorie but things seriously add up that extra bit of mayonnaise extra slice of toast eyeballing butter in mash for example all adds up. Surely if people have been actively eating less calories than they need they would loose weight

Well done.
how long have you kept the weight off for?

Well, you are marvellous aren’t you with all that willpower and stuff?
Whst was the purpose of this message exactly? Might be a bit inflammatory? Upset a few people.,what do you think?

You are clearly just a better human being than all the lazy fat idiots who aren’t even trying 🙄

(Or maybe you don’t face the same problems that other people do?)

Not sure if you are a bit dim or just deliberately goady.
I can stop drinking alcohol easily but does that mean an alcoholic isn’t trying hard enough if they can’t do it?

Congratulations on being a better human

The issue is that if you've only temporarily been heavier during pregnancy, then you are going to find it massively easier to go back to your pre baby body than people who have much more to lose, and entrenched eating behaviour and patterns. Why people eat is complex, and not as simple as cals in vs cals out. Your body will want to revert to your stable weight even if you lose/gain.

Thin people are not better at having the willpower to lose weight than overweight people. It's reductive and not helpful to perpetuate that.

Goady as fuck.

“My dd worked really hard at her revision and got straight 9s. AIBU to think all the kids who didn’t are just lazy and that anyone can get great grades if they work hard enough?”

Diets don't work long term. Well done so far, but come back when you've kept the weight off for a few years. It's fucking hard and you're hungry for your usual snacks and rubbish - that's why people fall off the wagon and put the weight back on (and usually more).

Wow, it seems like you've hit on the solution to the obesity crisis.
Perhaps you could turn your hand to running the country next.

Well of course if you are on a diet permanently then you'll lose weight. But diets aren't meant to be permanent. That's why they don't work.

I don't know what point you're trying to make. Shaming people who use WLI or people who lack 'willpower'? Food addiction is real and connected heavily to emotions for many people.

Slimming clubs like WW or SW have a vested interest in keeping you coming back, so in many ways their diets don't work unless you adhere to it very rigidly. It's a money making industry.

There have been many scientific studies that prove 'diets' don't work long term. I don't see why you'd disregard them?

I suspect this is going to turn into another weight loss injection bashing thread.

Science states time and a time again it’s calories in vs calories out

Does it @amijumping? Plenty of scientists would take issue with that statement these days.

Well done you for losing the weight. But please don’t assume that other people aren’t doing it ‘properly’. If losing weight was a simple matter, we wouldn’t have such an obesity crisis, would we?

I’m assuming from your OP that a) you’re relatively young and b) this is the first time you’ve had to worry about losing weight.

As PP have said - come back in a year’s time and tell us that you’ve managed to maintain your loss.

Oh I promise you that I’ve lost weight in diets… lots of times. In fact the last post I read from another successful dieter was marvelling at her weight loss on 1200 calories with intermittent fasting AND cutting out sugar. Oh how I 😂 at that. Good luck to you that’s what I say. See you in the queue for Mounjaro in 20 years.

And yet when people actually study the subject they discover that your weight is about 80% dictated by genetics....

It's well known that the fatter you are the harder it is to stay at a healthy bmi, your body fights it. You have to eat less then someone who has never been overweight...permanently to maintain it.

But sure it's easy and half the population is feckless, lazy and dumb...despite holding down responsible full time jobs, running households, running businesses and otherwise living highly successful, productive lives.

My weight fell off after having a baby. Breastfeeding, stress and walking a fussy baby round town for 4 hours a day did it. That's not real life, or your normal state of being.

"Dieting" doesn't work. If you want to keep it off for life you have commit to a forever lifestyle change and that is daunting as hell so I completely understand why it's not achievable for everyone. I'm 6 months into running and cutting down on alcohol/crisps while adding protein and more veg, which is working, but sometimes when I think about 40 more years of watching what I eat and exercising a few times a week I want to cry!

Totally get what you mean. I’ve been honestly tracking for a couple of months to see where I’m going wrong and I am massively over eating, even on days when I thought I was eating very healthy. You’re right, it’s the things like condiments, eyeballing amounts, the odd glug of olive oil. Until you’ve honestly tracked (my target is to stick to 2000 to start with as this is my maintenance) I don’t think people realise they’re not actually on a diet

It is that simple. You are 💯 right.
Personally I use the 5:2 diet now and it never fails me.
I’ve done the extra exercise diet three and it’s worked, in fact I lost more than I intended.
In younger days I just used to eat less for a few months and soon lost it.
It’s not hard, I refuse to buy new clothes.

You’re going to get a lot of stick on here but broadly I see where you’re coming from. I think people don’t realise how little they have to eat and how much hunger they will have to push past to lose the weight. It’s a hard thing to accept.

What is the point of your post? Just making sure we know how much better you are at losing weight than everyone else.

Literally EVERYONE knows that eating less calories than you expend will result in weight loss. You're really not some profound weight loss guru to point that out.

When people say "diets don't work" it's because they are an absolute nightmare to stick to and the statistical fact that, regardless of how you lose weight, there's an 80-95% chance of you putting it back on again.

Rubbish, of course it does. Honestly, that’s just a cop out.

Have you been slim apart from when you were pregnant?

It's interesting, because I only put on a stone when I was pregnant, and it was gone the week after I'd given birth because it was all blood and baby - I didn't put on any fat at all. Does that mean that you just didn't try not to put on too much weight when you were pregnant? Or perhaps does it mean that we're all different and find different things easy/hard?

Here's the interesting thing: When I was pregnant, I felt the same way about food that I do now I'm on the jabs. I ate what I needed and nothing more. No willpower required. Something about the hormones I guess, that's replicated by the jabs.

I've been obese my whole life - literally. Chubby toddler, fat teen, fat adult. And due to my height, I have to eat under 1000cals to lose weight - even when walking for hours/day like when I was at school or when the kids were young. I have no health issues. This is just how my body is - I put on any mass easily (muscle too - when I go to the gym I go up weights very quickly)

Sure - eat less, move more. But without the jabs (or a baby growing in me) I have no feedback. I literally have to manually count every single calorie - which is an insane amount of effort to add on when you're already eating less than you need, and trying to spend more time exercising.

Well done you for losing a stone. I'm sure it was tough, but you understand that for other people it's harder still? That we're not all the same?

Oh shit! This is where we’ve all been going wrong! Thanks OP for your wisdom.

People only have a certain amount of will power and lots of things in life can draw down your reserves of will power - being stressed on other things

you can I suspect increase will power but it may be mostly set in childhood and some people just have very low levels of will power

diets are hard and anyone who succeeds is doing amazingly