Extremely hacked off by GP. Won’t prescribe Mounjaro

[Hakunatomato]

I have been self funding Mounjaro for the past year, and have a debt on credit card because of it. As a result, my HBa1c has gone from 19 to 5.5. I have lost almost 5 stones, now down to 16 .stones so effectively I have put my diabetes into remission as a result. I can no longer afford it because of the price rises and have asked my GP to start prescribing it. Their response is that because my blood sugar is now nearly normal they won’t do it, despite me having a bmi of 46. When I finish the course I have I now have to watch my good work go in to reverse and watch my health decline. All for the sake of the £30 a week is would cost my GP at wholesale NHS cost. If I put the weight back on again and wait while my blood sugar levels rise and I will have to apply again. I am so pissed off.. The relatively small cost as opposed to what the bills will be when my Diabetes returns doesn’t make sense.

Where did i say i ate the
is all the time.
Of course i know about protein and fibre.
I also know fruit has s why i dont eat a lot of it.
I eat small amounts and keep up my protein.

You are just one of the ones against Mounjaro and despise people who take it.
Well personally i dint care what you think.
You never read my posts about the health issues involved i guess .
Why are you despising people so much for trying to get healthy .
You dont know me or what i eat or have tried .
At 68 i am certainly not going to answer to you

Ah yes. The worthy drugs. Ignore the fact that a drug that reduces obesity will also reduce the risk of cancers…

As someone who is also overweight and using mounjaro, you have to take some responsibility. You reversed the diabetes, hypertension, high cholesterol etc. but these were all caused by your weight in the first place.

The NHS is struggling and barely able to manage essential care without funding solutions for people who have health conditions as a result of their poor lifestyle choices. That’s why there is a strict criteria for prescribing it. Your GP literally can’t prescribe it you no matter how much they want to as it isn’t their choice who gets it and who doesn’t. These are NATIONAL rules as you’ve been repeatedly told.

If it’s that important for you to continue mounjaro you need to look at where else you can save money. For me the fact I’m spending less money on takeouts and junk food has saved me a fortune and helped to offset the cost. I’m also increasing my working hours to pay for it. Because it’s MY fault I become overweight and so it’s MY responsibility to solve it.

YABU. There is no unlimited NI pot. You don't meet the criteria, so it is not available. If you become unwell following this weight loss, you have chosen that, not your GP.

Yes, some typos as only on a phone and dont hit the right keys and check before posting .
Not an issue as i wont be posting any more .

You cant fix people that seem to know everything about everything

The NHS only funds those things for short term or acute need, and people are expected to take other measures to help themselves, not just demand to be allowed to be reliant on something for the rest of their lives with no other personal responsibility. If somebody playing sport was getting injured every month and returning for the same treatment, I'm sure there would be red flags and further investigation. Alcoholics and smokers often harm others through their actions, but are still expected to take responsibility and engage with strategies other than medication in the longer term.

A decade ago the miracle weight loss panacea was the gastric sleeve, but plenty of people found a way around that. Wonder how long before wli become ineffective because people just return to negative behaviours (given how many people on this thread are saying that wli won't change behaviour)?

Don’t know where you’re getting £30 from - drug tariff price is £92

I'm sorry, that sucks.
Can you switch to Weygovy?

Ask your GP about a programme called Second Nature. It's a programme that resets your relationship with food and offers lots of support. It's usually for people who are pre diabetic but my GP put me on it as I have problems losing weight due to not being able to take much exercise.

You won't see a dramatic weight loss but I've lost over a stone since May and it's still coming off. I really do recommend it.

I get the working your whole life approach, we all feel the same, rarely do you get anything now but to be taxed. But your health is your own responsibility and if you've managed to get to this point why not exercise and continue with dietary changes, this is different to trying a diet of different methods. The injection is what has put you on track, not you, the same as people having gastric bands for weight loss but offcourse more invasive. You can't stay on the injection forever, you need to look at a long term solution whilst the injection has put you at good sted.

I’m simply sharing my own experience, which is why I suggested the OP speak to Diabetes UK.

Interestingly, their website encourages people with diabetes to increase dietary fibre intake - have a read
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/living-with-diabetes/eating/carbohydrates-and-diabetes/fibre-and-diabetes

Staggeringly ignorant post. And smug with it.

You may as well tell an alcoholic to just put the drink down.

All you smug people telling the OP to use willpower are displaying absolute ignorance of this issue.

You appear to be describing yourself.

If you have already done so well maybe it is the time to try and carry on without the medication? No one is saying put on weight or stay where you are. You’ve given up before you’ve even tried.

Not necessarily, I agree with those who say it is a matter of willpower to a certain extent.

Yes, things like age, genetic predisposition to T2D etc makes a difference, but it's also surely an ability of the person to decide what they eat and when? Feeling a bit of hunger isn't necessarily a bad thing. Food noise is something I have had to resist at times, but I don't give in and decide to willfully eat 5 biscuits and a large bag of crisps after.

I might snack on a piece of fruit instead. It can be done, surely?

You have done amazingly and you can carry on without the drugs, think of them as a kick start. I say this as someone who struggles to lose weight but what has worked for me is 3 gym classes a week every week, 3 meals a day no snacking at all.

@Hakunatomato well done on your weightloss so far. However your already being defeatist by saying well it’s all going to go back on! You’ve got yourself into the negative mind set already. I’m having to stop the injections due to the cost as well. I’m closer to my goal, but ultimately I need to take accountability for what I’m putting in my mouth. Have you looked at switching to Wegovy as an option? I’m looking to potentially get a PT with the money saved from the jab…I’ve got 2 doses to go before I’m out and then I’m on my own. If I start putting it back on then I will look to wegovy as an alternative option

Have you medical evidence for this statement? Lots of evidence regarding it helping lots of diseases etc long term

But you cant stay on this drug your whole life? The NHS wouldn't do that. You've lost the weight now the onus is on you to maintain it. I think that is pretty reasonable and a responsibile stance by the NHS.

This is madness. It's far more dangerous. I know two people who have had gastric sleeves. Neither has kept the weight off.

If it helps op I was a similar weight to you and lost six stone with two still to lose.
I really didn't want all the food and drink I use to eat. I did get some counselling and it lick started my success. Can you self refer for that?
I took wegovy but it made me very ill. A friend has taken it for four years. Very low dose as she's diebetc. She has never put any weight on and I haven't this year. Same weight as March when I came out of hospital. You can do it. Good luck.

Yes, it is reportedly helping people with long autoimmune illness, as well as people with neurological difficulties like ADHD (The latter I have only heard second hand, the former is well reported on).

Wow - I bet the OP had never thought of that (eat less, move more)

Most people are are not saying that will power is easy. The OP is tone death in thinking she should have it just because she has paid NI. She is also tone death if she thinks should get it over people with several co existing conditions who meet the criteria, just because she has worked for 40 years!

You sound like mounjaro is perfect and the benefit of it is fabulous! Well done.

Ask to see a consultant. I think you'll find a consultant will prescribe it for you.

You expect the NHS to fund your willpower for what....the rest of your life? You sound so entitled. Have a think about the famine in Gaza and people starving in other countries. You just choose not to stop gorging yourself. I'd rather my tax went towards treating cancer than lack of self control. Oh sorry I mean " food noise" 🙄