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Passenger escorted onto plane by armed officers

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latesummerreminiscing · 30/08/2025 19:34

I took a flight from Germany to the UK yesterday and noticed at the gate were two armed officers waiting with a paper document at the gate. Then, that particular passenger was escorted onto the plane before anyone else, by both officers, they filled out paperwork before the rest were allowed onto the flight. No police were not with him on the flight though. He was in the front seat and very calm during the flight. What on earth was this about?? Lots of people were really worried

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notimagain · 31/08/2025 18:57

Gonners · 31/08/2025 18:41

Maybe he's spent more than 90 days out of 180 (or whatever it is) in the EU and the Germans were complying with the post-Brexit rules.

Maybe but what was described doesn't seem like the most subtle way of doing it.

Most times the general public are utterly unaware.

I'd put money on the fact a lot of the regular travellers here (especially those who fly Long Haul a lot) will have been on board with deportees or those turned as being inadmissibles and never realised.

Outside9 · 31/08/2025 19:01

Erm, okay?

NF1Awareness · 31/08/2025 19:17

I had to have armed guards escort me on to a flight from NY to London once, as I was the last to board (I was in the toilets at the boarding gate, and didn’t hear they had started to board 😬). They were about to unload my luggage.

I apologise to everyone one that flight that day. Lesson learned.

IGaveSoManySigns · 31/08/2025 19:21

Trendyname · 31/08/2025 18:21

Do Brits need visa to enter Germany?

No but we will be turned away if we don’t have enough time left on our passports!

Betty1625 · 31/08/2025 19:23

I saw similar, but a woman extradited from the UK. She sat at the back of the plane (across from me and my small child, glaring at us). At the destination she was met by airport police and was taken off the place first. I assumed it was deportation.

CherrieTomaties · 31/08/2025 19:24

latesummerreminiscing · 30/08/2025 19:47

Exactly this! There were loads of children on the plane and lots of people seemed uneasy.

There’s always feelings of uneasiness seeing armed officers. But thinking rationally - if this guy was dangerous or a risk to the public he would not have been allowed to fly alone. He would have needed to be cuffed to an officer at all times on the flight.

He was obviously escorted onto the plane by officers as they would have needed to ensure he got on the flight, for whatever reason.

PrincessofWells · 31/08/2025 19:28

It's usual when you have violated your visa conditions, to be escorted to the border or onto the plane to ensure you leave the country. That's all. Lots of people violate visa conditions and Germany just get rid of them, same as we do.

PrincessofWells · 31/08/2025 19:30

IGaveSoManySigns · 31/08/2025 19:21

No but we will be turned away if we don’t have enough time left on our passports!

No but they are limited to 90 days and will be removed if officials notice - usually going from one Shengen to another.

notimagain · 31/08/2025 19:32

@CherrieTomaties

But thinking rationally - if this guy was dangerous or a risk to the public he would not have been allowed to fly alone.

I'm no longer up to date on this and not sure how much is supposed to be in the public domain but I think it's OK to say that's a very valid assumption.

TorroFerney · 31/08/2025 19:46

latesummerreminiscing · 30/08/2025 19:47

Exactly this! There were loads of children on the plane and lots of people seemed uneasy.

But there will be loads of criminals on planes. Remember years ago my police officer husband seeing someone he knew had a warrant out and ringing it in.

AlleycatMarie · 31/08/2025 20:14

Very standard practice for someone denied entry to a country. Nothing to worry about.

SL2924 · 31/08/2025 20:20

I’d have crapped myself, OP. Seen con air enough times not to be taking any chances

notatinydancer · 31/08/2025 20:21

OfftoWorkIGo · 30/08/2025 19:40

I would have been keeping an eye on him myself! Surely if he was dangerous though the police would have stayed with him. On the other hand why did he have to be escorted on to the plane?

To make sure he got on.

Gonners · 31/08/2025 20:23

And they probably hung about outside the plane until it taxied away from the gate, to make sure he didn't get off!

Beachtastic · 31/08/2025 20:27

JustPinkFinch · 30/08/2025 20:08

I sat next to a guy once on a flight from USA to UK who had been deported and put on the plane by armed officers of some description. We chatted. He had been in prison in the US (drugs) and was immediately deported on release. Had nothing on him, not even a passport, just some papers for the other end, and a small hold all with clothes. No phone. Next to no cash. No bank account or cards. Once we got to Heathrow I let him make some calls from my phone and helped him sort out train tickets up to Liverpool where a brother lived. He'd been in prison for years. It was all quite mad, he was totally lost and bewildered stood in Heathrow with just the clothes on his back.

Edited

Sounds like one of my ex-BFs 😜

Beachtastic · 31/08/2025 20:32

OneMintWasp · 31/08/2025 18:11

My great aunt had this treatment once before when her employers (the military!) had messed up her Visa. A few decades ago now. She wasn't military herself, contracted by them, so was returning home on her own. She was effectively deported from the stop over airport by armed police. Handcuffed and marched on to the plane that she wanted to get on anyway! Once on the cuffs were removed. She said she stood at the front of the plane and told all the passengers what was going on because it was so humiliating.

Edited to say she was working in Germany a lot so could have been there.

Edited

This needs to be made into a movie starring Maggie Smith!

FeatheryFlorence · 31/08/2025 20:36

King’s Messenger accompanying diplomatic mail.

notimagain · 31/08/2025 20:45

FeatheryFlorence · 31/08/2025 20:36

King’s Messenger accompanying diplomatic mail.

You think that's what the OP saw?

If so have to say I've never seen or heard of one boarded in that manner...

Mia184 · 31/08/2025 20:47

latesummerreminiscing · 30/08/2025 19:36

How do you mean, like kicked out of the country? I thought it was so odd that the officers were heavily armed!

I am German and the police here are always armed - by British standards probably quite heavily.

Gonners · 31/08/2025 20:50

@OneMintWasp That reminds me ... I worked for the army in Hannover for a couple of years in the mid-70s and one Easter weekend decided to go to Berlin, on the train. I got a terrific bollocking when I got back, on the grounds that the visa in my passport (which was obviously inspected by the East German border guards four times, in and out) showed that I was an employee of the British Forces.

I was duly contrite but thought it best not to mention that I had also been on a tour of East Berlin, so they'd had six looks at it! 😆

LBFseBrom · 31/08/2025 20:53

The police were protecting the man, Why, we can only wonder but if he had been a danger to others, he'd have had an escorted journey all the way.

SirBasil · 31/08/2025 20:58

latesummerreminiscing · 30/08/2025 19:36

How do you mean, like kicked out of the country? I thought it was so odd that the officers were heavily armed!

Define "heavily armed"

the5thgoldengirl · 31/08/2025 21:13

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ThistleTits · 31/08/2025 21:13

MaidOfSteel · 30/08/2025 19:49

Probably just refused entry to the UK on arrival. They get taken into the aircraft to make sure they’re on it, I imagine.

He was leaving Germany to the UK.

Gonners · 31/08/2025 21:14

SirBasil · 31/08/2025 20:58

Define "heavily armed"

I suspect, as @Mia184 said, that just means "armed" as in carrying guns. Police in many European countries are "heavily armed" by UK standards.

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