To think that surely Rayner has to go.

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Well well well.

So now it emerges that Rayner rearranged her property affairs and declared to HMRC that her new flat in Brighton is her main residence and saved £40k on the SDLT bill as a result.

She has then apparently declared to the local councils the complete opposite.

I'm sure slimeball Kier will defend and say it was perfectly legal blah blah blah.

Not to mention she has a grace and favour house funded by tax payers in London as her constituency office is so far away. Yet she 'lives' in Brighton - surely she could just commute that distance like may others do every day.

Surely she has to go.

I can't quite believe this thread is still going. Are people really that scared by Angela Rayner's success 😂

Where have I said she had to pay CGT?

You didn’t say this then?

She could just call Brighton her primary residence for council tax and capital gains tax.

Well, I can see that false trails might be worth condemning. And that may again be the case with Angela Rayner.

But I really don’t think anyone’s scared by AR’s dazzling success.

It’s difficult to find any other motivation for the right wing pile on at every opportunity. She’s constantly attacked.

I think attacks on AR are, at least in part, motivated by attacking a working class woman. Just as the constant and disgraceful attacks on Nadine Dorries by Labour supporters were.

I'm pretty sure I read that it was - for the sake of continuity for the children.

Johnny Rotten said it in the 70s and it sadly seems just as true now: The British hate seeing a working class person succeed at anything.

I did really like her but struggling to see how she can come through this . I have to hard disagree that she’s thick. It’s so ridiculously difficult to reach the top jobs in politics if you are female and not from a privileged background; the fact that she’s come from very challenging circumstances, the press hate her and yet she’s still made it to deputy pm suggest that she is very far from thick.

She’s survived the mini shuffle but she’s a liability to Starmers credibility whilst at the same time has ( or had) enough support in the Party to likely replace him if he goes.

I think he may push her to one side in favour of someone that can stand up to public scrutiny. Maybe that will help his own failing popularity

Can’t stand hypocrites.

She still has great hair though.

It’s not about her success, it’s the fact that she is not setting a good example

she has access to advisors who can help her make the most of tax loopholes whilst at the same time her government are looking at ways to exhort more money out of taxpayers, their properties and inheritance they may receive

Genuinely at a loss to what she has done?

Gave up the family home to her ex husband but still has some use of it, bought a flat in Sussex.

Paid the correct tax, if she had said the new house was a her second home, she would have been lying and IR wouldn't have accepted the additional tax, IR know exactly how many properties someone is registered with.

Quite how giving up a 250k house to save 40k in tax is using a "tax loop hole" is anyones guess.

From this article Farage has supported Rayner:
That being said, Rayner did receive backing from an unexpected quarter last week, when the Reform UK leader insisted the row was confected. “This whole sort of hair-shirt approach – most of the press want politicians in sackcloth and ashes, would like all of us to be vegan and give up drinking,” said Nigel Farage. “Well, it’s not happening here.”

She must be fuming that her defendent is her enemy 😤

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/01/angela-rayners-hove-flat-five-questions-for-the-deputy-pm

She must be fuming that her defendent is her enemy

Why?

I posted without checking the story properly. I have posted an article which explains why she hasn't done anything wrong.

Soory Angela!

And no Tory ever did this? Christ the double standards… people dislike her because she’s a ballsy northerner. And god help us, Labour MPs must stick to their principles, wear clogs and drink stout, not enjoy most of the privileges most of you Mumsnet posters enjoy.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/01/why-are-the-tabloids-so-enraged-about-angela-rayner-class-warfare

😅

No people don’t like her because she’s a bare faced hypocrite
people DID like her because she called out people doing tax avoidance like this

there was the big dubious question about stamp duty last year not to mention her taking donor contributions

it was wrong when a Tory did it so it’s still wrong when one of the top labour mp,s does it

shit tories aren’t a get out of jail free card for labour mp’s

This! www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/01/why-are-the-tabloids-so-enraged-about-angela-rayner-class-warfare

Shortsaint, Bloody well said!

The Guardian are obviously conflicted on this but it's OK, Farage is sticking up for her
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/01/angela-rayners-hove-flat-five-questions-for-the-deputy-pm

Omg she is going through a divorce co-parenting with a partner co-parenting in Hove. Yes some of what she is doing feels mis judged or miscommunicated but seeing a bile filed thread like this on mumsnet a site for women is really like turkeys voting for Christmas. Can’t you see the tabloids hate her because she is a ballsy outspoken woman. Tory’s have done worse but the hate she is getting is basically because the media hate women unless there being sexy or demure like beige shoe Princess Kate.

Again, what has has she done? either legally or morally?

Can you explain how someone who isn't on the deeds of any property, would pay the 2nd home rate of stamp duty?

OR is it that Rayner shouldn't own a house?

"Stay in your lane...."

Farage owns 4 houses, there is nothing wrong with that either, money obtained legally, can be spent as one wishes.

On the other hand... Hunt speeded up the purchase of some flats to avoid tax, but i expect that was all ok.

When the labour housing minister acted improperly over rent rises, you lot called for her to resign.....

Thank goodness you all hate hypocrisy lol

Well yes, I posted that, but that doesn’t say she has anything to pay does it? So I’m not sure that makes the lint you are trying to make. Because the Brighton flat is already her primary residence for CGT. There is nothing to pay. That’s not in dispute. She claimed she owns no other property.

As pointed out on numerous occasions above she is paying the second home council tax on the Brighton flat. She has no constituency house so should be paying council tax in London. She isn’t.

Although, having said she owns no other property it now transpires that the type of trust that her share of the Manchester property is in means that, because her children are under 18, that she does have beneficial ownership. I think I highlighted that risk yesterday… And as a result could have been liable to pay the additional rate of stamp duty.

Either way the issue remains that to be vehemently against the use of legitimate tax planning tools when in opposition and then to be on the agressive end of using them when she can smacks very much of the ‘do as I say not as I do’ approach of some on the left, and therefore should be called out at every opportunity. There is already a whiff of ‘one rule for us and another for everyone else’ about this government. You might be happy about that, but I am not.

All MPs, like all of us, are allowed to use tax planning tools to minimise our tax liability. The key difference is that Rayner was vocal in her view of those that used perfectly legal tax planning tools. She called them tax dodgers. So, she has to expect to be called out on her behaviour surely? A government that claimed it would clean up sleaze is hardly in a strong position if all it can say is ‘well, they did it too’ are they?

It’s nothing to do with being her a woman, northern or working class, though that’s helpful deflection for her acolytes. It’s just a matter of whether she will live by the standards she measured others against. And if not, why not.