Everyone should move away from the cities

[FastQuoter]

Hey everyone. Posting here for more discussion. I want to start a conversation that needs to be had. I've read a number of posts regarding families escaping the big cities for elsewhere and it's been an interesting read. I've used it for my own research too because honestly whilst living in a city has its perks, there is a big trade off regarding one's health, stress levels and community, amongst other things.

I read where village/rural communities across the UK are hostile to Londoners moving in - but it's going to be more of a thing and should be encouraged!

Essentially, I myself, and many other of my friends I've talked to, believe that living in a more village/rural setting is ideal, but we fear the unknown. We fear the reception from others and if we'll fit in here in the UK, which is fair enough but hear me out! I believe more people need to live in rural settings, go back to our roots, the way our ancestors lived.

Grow your own food! I'm telling you they'll be a time soon when such a skill will be vital. Sustain yourself and do not rely on the government to feed you. Please!

Learn to work with your hands! Whether that's sewing (like our mothers and grandmothers did), cooking from scratch, embroidery, hair making, etc etc there is something wonderful about seeing the fruits of your labour. 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12 "And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you; 12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing."

Beneficial for you and your children If you have young children, I can't see anywhere better for them to grow up. To be surrounded by nature as God intended (God put Adam and Even in the garden of Eden). The learn life skills from young.

Please be kind in the comments, this is my view and I certainly welcome rebuttals and counter-arguments but do be respectful.

God didn't make you that, he created you in his image! Sin is what destabilised the world and has caused illnesses and disabilities.

BUT there's hope for all that believe and follow Jesus Christ because when he comes again for the final time he will make his followers perfect. You will be made perfect and will live with him in the new earth and new heaven to glorify him FOREVER. Imagine eternity in heaven where there's no more death, sorrow, crying, evil.

The bible says no eyes have seen, no ears heard what God has prepared for his people. Life in eternity is going to be so much fun and so much bliss - we cannot even fathom it! Just believe in him, and let him know about all your worries. 😌

Well I think that would be fabulous! Honestly I just think more households need to grow food, sell the surplus and buy what they don't have from others. :) That way there's no shortage and no one goes hungry.

Aww don't doubt me! I'll roll my sleeves up if I have too!

Plus I don't have to rear animals, I can do the agriculture. I'll buy meat from you and you buy fruits and veg from me 😊

So you need a fairly specific religious commune, sounds like fairly extreme Christian views! Rather than a simple commune as I suggested above.

Yep, you haven't thought this through.

As an experiment, in preparation for your life of self-sufficiency on the land, go through your food cupboards and get rid of everything that isn't grown in the UK. Look at what's left, and spend from now until next May eating it, and only it. You may use a supermarket to purchase out-of-season goods, but only if they derive from the UK, so no Spanish tomatoes, or Ghanaian green beans. Then have a little think about how you're going to grow and live on this for real. And what you're going to live on in the dead season, usually early Spring.

And if you had time to tell us how much land you think you'll need to fully support yourself in this little venture, that would be useful.

So if everyone did this where would people be able to get things they need that you cant grow yourself? Sure if you live in a cave with no internet, no need fpr clothes or non self growing food, medical care, schooling or anything else in modern society has sure great carry on

@FastQuoter Do you know I think Our Lord and Saviour will welcome me come the resurrection , whether I live in a town , city , village.

I think , your (to me) slightly idealised version of living off the land / barter arrangements don't pragmatically suit most people. But if it works for you , fill your boots I say . It would not work for me.

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But according to do-gooders like Little Miss Thunberg, aren't we supposed to be staying in our 15-minute cities and minimising travel, 'cos climate change, innit?

Joking/sarcasm aside, villages will need to turn into cities to allow for all these people who flock there to live, be educated and be treated for ill health etc.
And how will money be raised to pay for the schools and hospitals if everyone is out working the land to provide food ? it takes ages for a potato to grow, you could eat you whole crop from you vegetable patch within a week and then have to wait weeks for it to be replenished.

@noworklifebalance I think if the people put their minds together, many solutions can be implemented. You can easily grow lots of potatoes to last you the winter. That's why more household/communities need to grow their own food and sell the surplus to each other. Organic, delicious and grown with love!

You'd have to drag me out of Barcelona kicking and screaming. There's no chance in hell I'd live in a village <shudder> even a pretty Spanish medieval village with a UNESCO church!

Definitely he will!

But although it may come across idealised, and perhaps so, it's not without reasoning. I wish it would suit more people, but alas times have changed and not for the better.

As an experiment, in preparation for your life of self-sufficiency on the land, go through your food cupboards and get rid of everything that isn't grown in the UK. Look at what's left, and spend from now until next May eating it, and only it. You may use a supermarket to purchase out-of-season goods, but only if they derive from the UK, so no Spanish tomatoes, or Ghanaian green beans. Then have a little think about how you're going to grow and live on this for real. And what you're going to live on in the dead season, usually early Spring.

@SuffolkSun Btw it feels like I'm pushed to the idea that I'm saying no to trade. Trade has happened since time began and now more easily with boats, trains and flight. I am NOT against these things and love that I can eat pineapples, plantain, kiwis, coconuts and more from abroad.

I'm just advocating for a less urbanised, more rural/village setting where communities can truly thrive, where it is void of high rise tenements and skyscrapers. Where the air so fresh and the environment so healthy for your bones. Where people go back to doing things with their hands and selling/gifting to one another.

Is this a wrong ideal?

And what about when you need an operation where will that be performed in the stables?

I think that's just the maternity ward 😊

Personal preference thing. But remember all the drawbacks, little to know public transport, having to drive for even basics, no food delivery, having to pay for your 16-18 year olds to get to college, and the reason villagers dislike incomers is because they arrive, moan they can’t get pomegranate molasses (true story) expect people to get out of the way of their jogging group filling the whole pavement (another true story) and eventually move back to London, phew

Yes the great frustration is transport costs across the country - it's really criminal.

Maybe save this for the religion board.

I'm just advocating for a less urbanised, more rural/village setting where communities can truly thrive, where it is void of high rise tenements and skyscrapers. Where the air so fresh and the environment so healthy for your bones. Where people go back to doing things with their hands and selling/gifting to one another.

Is this a wrong ideal?

No idea whether it's "wrong" or not. But it's based on delusion, a complete lack of knowledge about how rural communities functioned two/three/four hundred years ago and how they function today, a complete lack of knowledge about how a complex, post-industrial society like the UK operates and an utter misunderstanding of what is required to produce food.

@FastQuoter i have a 9-5 job in a pharmaceutical company that makes medicines people would literally DIE without…I don’t have TIME to tend to chickens and animals and grow a garden to feed my family on top of that!! So no…I’m out! It’s ridiculous to think everyone should or could even have semi interest in doing that!! I don’t even have the interest or energy for a dog! Fuck that shite!

Is your message just for Christians or should all the Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Atheists etc. move too?

Also my son is both disabled and perfect exactly as he is. His disability is not due to anyone's sin and he doesn't need to be fixed.

I live in the suburbs, grow tomatoes, keep hens and sew. These skills have been passed down to me from my ancestors - who all lived in zone 1.

People will absolutely come for me but I’m going to say it anyway!! As someone who has lived in the countryside all my life and we also farm. Most Londoners who move to villages are a pain in the a*se!! They know nothing about how the countryside works and have no respect/understanding for the people who know and look after the landscape. Also someone who has always grown up in a small village is less likely to be able to buy a house there compared to someone from London on a higher salary which is putting house prices higher. Where I’m from they are and always will be known as “blow ins”.

And what about when you need an operation where will that be performed in the stables?

Haha funny,

@BasiliskStare @PollyBell Then go to your nearest hospital, right? It's not rocket science. I'm just saying for small necessities there should be provisions in the villages/towns/countryside

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Where is this land and housing going to come from if everyone in London, Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Liverpool etc. Suddenly turned up with their suitcases asking where do they put their knickers?