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Everyone should move away from the cities

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FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 17:42

Hey everyone. Posting here for more discussion. I want to start a conversation that needs to be had. I've read a number of posts regarding families escaping the big cities for elsewhere and it's been an interesting read. I've used it for my own research too because honestly whilst living in a city has its perks, there is a big trade off regarding one's health, stress levels and community, amongst other things.

I read where village/rural communities across the UK are hostile to Londoners moving in - but it's going to be more of a thing and should be encouraged!

Essentially, I myself, and many other of my friends I've talked to, believe that living in a more village/rural setting is ideal, but we fear the unknown. We fear the reception from others and if we'll fit in here in the UK, which is fair enough but hear me out! I believe more people need to live in rural settings, go back to our roots, the way our ancestors lived.

Grow your own food! I'm telling you they'll be a time soon when such a skill will be vital. Sustain yourself and do not rely on the government to feed you. Please!

Learn to work with your hands! Whether that's sewing (like our mothers and grandmothers did), cooking from scratch, embroidery, hair making, etc etc there is something wonderful about seeing the fruits of your labour. 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12 "And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you; 12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing."

Beneficial for you and your children If you have young children, I can't see anywhere better for them to grow up. To be surrounded by nature as God intended (God put Adam and Even in the garden of Eden). The learn life skills from young.

Please be kind in the comments, this is my view and I certainly welcome rebuttals and counter-arguments but do be respectful.

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FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:12

CorneliaCupp · 28/08/2025 17:47

But I like living in a city and so do my kids! So much going on, good public transport. You can grow your own food in the city as well, many of my neighbours have allotments and I benefit from their hard work!
Honestly, city is the place to be!

True, that's why I had to point out that I understand the benefits - I was born and raised in the city!

However I do think that this great converge to the big cities only causes more spread out/rural areas to be deprived. People within the villages should see it as an opportunity to provide what the people need - that's strengthens community! <3

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FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:13

Needmorelego · 28/08/2025 17:47

Ok.
Yeah I'm happy to leave my city.
Can you pay for me to do that and find a decent SEN school for my daughter, job for my husband.
Oh.... might need some driving lessons and a car as I hear public transport out there is terrible.
Thanks 🙂

I sympathise with you, there needs to be more incentives in the villages to be suitable for everyone. The fresh air and environment for one is just unbeatable.

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Grow123 · 28/08/2025 20:15

What do i do for money? Sell the produce and textiles?

lljkk · 28/08/2025 20:15

Among the other slightly amusing nonsense that OP posted, I especially liked this one:

Learn to work with your hands! Whether that's sewing (like our mothers and grandmothers did)

My mom did sew, fine that's true... but she'd be 85 if she was alive now. I'm 57 and NO ONE my age or younger sews. Except me. So most of OP's audience, their grandmothers were last generation with sewing skills.

Not everyone is a Londoner. I lived in a small town for 19 years and am now hugely enjoying anonymity of city life, opportunities here and proximity to my work place.

Imicola · 28/08/2025 20:15

There is not enough space for everyone to live in rural areas and to have nature, grow food etc. The most efficient use of space is dense cities, sad though that may be.

Imicola · 28/08/2025 20:16

FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:13

I sympathise with you, there needs to be more incentives in the villages to be suitable for everyone. The fresh air and environment for one is just unbeatable.

If everyone moves to villages there will be no villages anymore

childofthe607080s · 28/08/2025 20:16

If everyone moved out of the cities to the villages there would not be any villlages

Needmorelego · 28/08/2025 20:17

My picture doesn't seem to have been approved 🙁
It was a screenshot of the book "Crafting with your cats hair".
Real book.... it's on Amazon and everything.

XenoBitch · 28/08/2025 20:22

You can do all this living in a city. I didn't lose the ability to sew when I moved to a city centre. However, I have a black thumb and can't even keep a spider plant alive.

FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:22

SilenceInside · 28/08/2025 17:52

People live in cities because of the infrastructure. Small villages and rural locations don’t have the infrastructure to support a mass influx of people from cities.

In the UK, growing your own food is essentially a fairly expensive hobby and not a way of practically sustaining yourself and your family. And most people don’t want to eat the kinds of seasonal foods you’d end up growing.

Anyone in any location can learn to craft things with their hands. Rural living is not a requirement.

Living rurally can be beneficial for children, but it can also have significant drawbacks. It’s not the simplistic picture that you paint.

Lastly, are you an AI? Your post certainly reads like one.

Well just to rebuttal your claims, because I have researched this a lot.

Growing your own food doesn't have to be expensive at all. If you're purchasing all the fancy, unnecessary tools as well as using pesticides then perhaps it'll cost you a penny. Plus with the surplus you make you can sell it to your community! :D

It's been shown that we should actually be eating seasonal foods because of the peak nutritional value it holds. Plus it reduces carbon footprint and is better for the environment.

Am I AI? Haha no, nor was this post written by it. I'm not sure whether to be insulted or chuffed!

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Lemoncanine · 28/08/2025 20:22

Yeah but please leave the town entirely to us townies. Don’t come driving into our space!

WonderingWanda · 28/08/2025 20:23

There seems 57 million people living in urban areas in the UK. The rural areas won't he very rural if they all move out. We can't go back to the way our ancestors lived without some sort of mass extinction event. Agriculture is intensive because its the only way we can feed 8.1 billion people.

FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:25

I can sew/cook etc and and am very practical though. As you get older you're better living nearer hospitals and amenities as you never know when you might not be able to drive.

@Easyozy Regarding health, that's why I think it's so imperative for us to know more about how to maintain a healthy lifestyle, using natural remedies to prevent certain illnesses. But understandably it's different if you have certain disabilities. But that shouldn't stop anyone from living in a nearby village and having a local friend/family take you if you cannot drive. That's community!

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FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:28

childofthe607080s · 28/08/2025 17:52

City living can be substantially lower in carbon footprint , reduce loneliness , lots of cultural stimulation and job opportunities. it also tends towards o make more efficient use of land leaving more for agriculture

personally ( despite living rural) I don’t want to go back to how our ancestors lived - flushing toilets, antibiotics , central heating , TV Easy travel - all great things

what we need to do is fix the cities not build mini cities all over the uk

idolising some past generation life is sad though - are you masking a deep depression?

No. The opposite is true - have you not read many articles talking about loneliness in the big cities i.e London?

And please be kind and thoughtful. Just because I see the great benefits of rural living does not mean I'm depressed - how rude! Actually if we hadn't forgotten the Christian morals and ways of our forefathers, society would be a lot better than it is today!

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whatwouldlilacerullodo · 28/08/2025 20:29

Not everyone likes rural life. I would be incredibly unhappy living like that. It's mind numbingly, soul destroyingly boring for me.

BTW, cities are the most sustainable way for humans to occupy the planet.

Mangetouts · 28/08/2025 20:30

I grew up in a village and everyone commuted to a town. They worked in a town, shopped in a town, did sports in a town, etc etc.

It's worth mentioning that villages are wonderful if you have a good income and transport of your own as public transport is non existent and expensive when there is some. Public transport is also expensive to provide. They can be as lonely for people as towns can be and equally as bad for bullying if your face doesn't fit.

Towns are there as hubs to bring people together. Yours a very middle class utopia OP. A utopia which will be full of NIMBYs shouting about the new estates that will have to be built to accommodate all these city escapees... not in my village!

Hello87abc · 28/08/2025 20:30

I think your view of village life is quite hilarious. All us olden day people doing our ancient crafts 🤣 you do realise it’s not much different children go to school, we go to work, it can be just as stressful it just means we’ve got more travel time to get anywhere. We’re not all just sat there doing our tapestry. And you wonder why Londoners get a bad reception.

Bathingforest · 28/08/2025 20:31

I'm Christian and you're totally wrong. I am also retired wine maker , done the whole thing. It's back breaking , it's horrible, it's lonely and very often the men can abuse your labours....

Since coming to the UK, for my forced retirement, Albert Hall has been a life line

You simply are clueless how hard village life is if you need to do it the old fashioned way.

XenoBitch · 28/08/2025 20:31

I do know a couple who moved from a city to a rural location. The location worked for them as they have horses and a lot of other animals so they are on their doorstep now. But they have no neighbours and despite living there for years now, have not made any new friends. They still travel to meet their old ones.

You can be lonely anywhere.

whatwouldlilacerullodo · 28/08/2025 20:31

I see that @childofthe607080sbeat to both arguments :)

FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:32

Strollingby · 28/08/2025 17:55

I live in a city, have an allotment and grow my own food (some anyway) and knit/crochet. Am I doing it wrong? Should I have moved out years ago?
It is convenient for me though because a medical condition means it is uncertain I will be able to drive much longer and where I live has decent public transport, unlike some rural areas.

I understand, but the villagers need to understand that they have a great opportunity on their doorstep!

  1. Set up a bus system (job creation for the locals)
  2. Set up a clinic (every village should ideally have one, as health is key)
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Barney16 · 28/08/2025 20:32

Ocado deliver to villages.

Bathingforest · 28/08/2025 20:34

For comparison I'm now with the grandkids in Devon, staying on a farm. Looked around, compared notes. They are millionaires on paper but their land and cottages were built over 100s of years. They still work their own land.

Can you honestly tell me, have you done a whole day farms work, 6 am, 8 am on the field, lunch and back on the field until sunset ...that's 16 h working day

Bikergran · 28/08/2025 20:34

This was more feasible years ago, when a village had shops and services, a school, a post office, often a doctor. Nowadays many villages have nothing, not even a pub, so you have to travel for everything.

FastQuoter · 28/08/2025 20:35

latetothefisting · 28/08/2025 17:59

To be surrounded by nature as God intended (God put Adam and Even in the garden of Eden)

Um....didn't God quite famously banish them from the garden of Eden?

Do you have any idea of how hard it is to grow sufficient food to feed a family?

I'm interested in what houses you think the millions of people leaving the cities should move into, exactly....

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Yes because they disobeyed and sinned against God.

But do you see, before sin they were in the garden of Eden and God instructed them to work and care for it - they were with the animals and such beautiful fauna! Life was bliss - that was the original plan before things got messed up.

But there will be a new earth and new heaven when Jesus returns - so we have to ready our hearts!

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