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To think life is a bit pointless for many if you don't have much money

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Potato35 · 25/08/2025 19:26

This obviously doesn't apply to people who are happy with the bare minimum or are perhaps living mortgage or rent free or don't need to work.
Being on a low income restricts your life in so many ways. It's not about wanting millions and a luxurious lifestyle, but..
Imagine being able to go to the supermarket and not have to calculate the cost of everything to the last penny
To have choice over where you buy clothes, not just second hand/Primark etc.
To have more options about the size and conditions of your home and be able to afford the cost of renovations
Can afford more things like vitamins, supplements, health and beauty treatments
Can see more of the world
You can probably afford a pet or children
When your friends want to go to higher end restaurants you can afford to go and not just get a starter and a tap water
You can afford better food

What's the point of living to just earn a low wage and just get by? Where's the fun in life?
Somebody has to do the minimum wage jobs because many of these jobs are essential to society, like working as a carer.

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Someone2025 · 26/08/2025 12:04

Potato35 · 25/08/2025 22:47

I think some people are missing the point..
And it's not a race to the bottom, I can be unhappy but still be grateful that I have access to clean water ffs.

I hate those ridiculous comparisons, it's like oh I can't afford my rent this month but at least I have clean water!

I do think life would be miserable being on a minimum wage job for a long time, but I honestly if I were in that position I would be able to find my way out of it so, you have to be resourceful

Can you explain how you came to be working in a minimum wage job (that’s if you are), are you a relatively new graduate who is just starting out?……if that’s the case then at least you can see light at the end of the tunnel as you will probably progress and so will your wages

Fetchthevet · 26/08/2025 14:28

I'm sorry you feel like that OP, but not all of us on minimum wage find life pointless. I work in childcare and I get a lot of fulfillment out of my job. I have a loving partner and a caring, thoughtful DC. Yes, it's hard sometimes to pay the bills, but I don't dwell on it. I get a lot of enjoyment from reading (library books), growing my own veg, watching comedies on YouTube, mixing with friends and family (in our homes mainly). I consider myself to have a good life. My life is far from pointless.

Crushed23 · 26/08/2025 14:35

Veryxonfused · 25/08/2025 21:07

I don’t know. When I was a student I was on the tightest budget I’ve ever been on, ‘lived off beans’. I had a whale of a time. But we were all skint so there was no comparing to peers and making ourselves feel shit.

This. One of the happiest years of my life was my gap year when I stayed in $10/night hostels and lived off cheap pasta and rum & coke, along with the hundreds of other young travellers I met who were in the same boat.

It’s about relative poverty.

IdontgiveaFork · 26/08/2025 15:32

WunTooThree · 25/08/2025 21:27

I don't have much money as I am on benefits, so I make do as best I can. I have never had much money even when I was able to work anyway so being frugal is my way of life. I don't aspire to live in a big house or go on expensive holidays.

I would not say my life was pointless though.

But, you used to be able to have a decent life on NMW, and now you can't. And as a PP said, someone has to do the min wage jobs, and not everyone is capable of moving up the ladder. Many jobs don't even have a ladder to climb up.

Some people are happy doing a minimum wage job . Some people don’t want stress and pressure. I was a cleaner once and I loved my job. It was actually therapeutic for me . It was the happiest I had ever been at work . A lot of people enjoy having a stress free simple life .

Audiwannabe · 26/08/2025 15:50

A genuine question to those who say that being poor and doing low pay, low demand jobs were their happy times - why pursue education and career if you were so genuinely happy without those things?

Sweetmelonff · 26/08/2025 15:54

Audiwannabe · 26/08/2025 15:50

A genuine question to those who say that being poor and doing low pay, low demand jobs were their happy times - why pursue education and career if you were so genuinely happy without those things?

I suspect because they’ve forgotten how utterly utterly boring it was and how each minute seemed like an hour.

That is my memory of being a student back for the holidays and working in a low paid call centre. Shudder at the memory!!!

HeadsWinTailsLose · 26/08/2025 16:00

To think life is a bit pointless for many if you don't have much money

Have you never seen A Christmas Carol?

Sweetmelonff · 26/08/2025 16:04

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samplesalequeen · 26/08/2025 16:24

WallaceinAnderland · 25/08/2025 19:34

Life is pointless anyway. I mean, what are we actually here for. We are born, we age, we die. Some of us procreate. Even so, the human race will eventually die out and the world will continue to evolve.

Cheery!

Kirbert2 · 26/08/2025 17:03

Audiwannabe · 26/08/2025 15:50

A genuine question to those who say that being poor and doing low pay, low demand jobs were their happy times - why pursue education and career if you were so genuinely happy without those things?

Not everyone does or can pursue a career.

48mumof6 · 26/08/2025 17:47

everychildmatters · 26/08/2025 09:11

@48mumof6 It must be such a worrying time. My hubby and I have been privately renting now for over a decade and we know that if either of us couldn't work for any reason (and we know this can happenin the blink of an eye) then we would lose the roof over our heads. I'm also self-employed so if I went off sick we also wouldn't be able to afford to pay the rent and bills.
I hope so much you can get the support you need 💐

Thank you 💖 it is very worrying which makes me stress out which effects my health

Audiwannabe · 26/08/2025 21:10

Kirbert2 · 26/08/2025 17:03

Not everyone does or can pursue a career.

@Kirbert2

Not everyone does or can pursue a career.

Well yes, I know that, and I agree, I'm one of them. But I was asking if why people posting were so happy when in situations where they had a low income at one time, why they had gone on to pursue education and a career, that achieved a higher income, in order to look back fondly on those times.

@Sweetmelonff

I suspect because they’ve forgotten how utterly utterly boring it was and how each minute seemed like an hour.

That is my memory of being a student back for the holidays and working in a low paid call centre. Shudder at the memory!!!

I think it's vastly different when it's a means to an end, when you know that it's a part of the journey, rather than just being the journey.

And tbh, my life isn't boring, it's a lot of things but boring isn't one of them! And I have progressed up 'the ladder' as short as it is, but it's a lot more work and not a lot more money in return, still well under the national average and although I struggle less than when I earned less, I still struggle, I can pay the bills demanded of me now and am not constantly wondering when the bailiffs will turn up.

And tbh there's times it just doesn't feel worth it at all. But I guess everyone feels like that sometimes no matter what they earn.

I think people assume for a wage like mine there can't be that much responsibility, or scrutiny, or actual work to do, but I have found that compared to some of the 'professional' friends I have, I'm doing more work from home because there just isn't enough time to do what's expected at work, that it's threatening to take over my life, that there aren't the professional structures in place that tend to come with well, professions, no standard practices, and little in the way of protection against the effects of that.

And I get paid a lot less than they do and am held in a less favourable light.

And I've found this is social care, hospitality and retail. All 3 are struggling with recruiting and retaining staff, especially those who are needed to coordinate and manage the day to day running, or need a skill set like a chef. People work incredibly hard in those industries, but the return for that just isn't there.

WunTooThree · 26/08/2025 21:26

Audiwannabe · 26/08/2025 15:50

A genuine question to those who say that being poor and doing low pay, low demand jobs were their happy times - why pursue education and career if you were so genuinely happy without those things?

My old low pay job paid enough to live on. I tried to pursue bigger and better things, but some of us are just not cut out for it (3 times uni drop out here).

WunTooThree · 26/08/2025 21:30

Sweetmelonff · 26/08/2025 15:54

I suspect because they’ve forgotten how utterly utterly boring it was and how each minute seemed like an hour.

That is my memory of being a student back for the holidays and working in a low paid call centre. Shudder at the memory!!!

No, low paid does not mean boring.
My NMW job was varied. Apart from the routine stuff, every day was different. I know people who work for charities who work with vulnerable people. They have to risk assess their clients, and have a huge amount of responsibility. They are on NMW.
NMW does not always mean a monotonous dredge of a job. And some people actually do like the jobs that are samey. It is safe for them.

LucyLoo1972 · 26/01/2026 23:18

UnfashionableArtex · 25/08/2025 21:20

I am sure there are many who have the ability to improve their circumstances. But I think there are plenty of others who are genuinely limited in what they are able to do. Not everyone is really intelligent/fearless/charming/other quality that helps one get ahead in this world.

and I wa pretty much all those things and so happy in an elite profession and then went into psychosis which took every single thigns id world for away. id world my way up from poverty and trauma to get there too.

Worralorra · 27/01/2026 00:46

childofthe607080s · 25/08/2025 19:38

You will always want more

So you go and get it!

Want a beautiful house? Learn how to decorate and renovate yourself - who knows, it might lead to a new career.
Want lovely clothes? Hunt around charity shops or learn how to sew.
Want healthier food? Stop buying takeaways and learn how to cook from scratch/go vegetarian.
Want holidays? Get a job that encourages travel, or embrace camping and self-motivated holidays and activities.
Want savings? Study how to budget and invest properly.

All those “wants”are in reach - if you are willing to compromise, study, work hard and put yourself out for them.

PensionMention · 27/01/2026 01:14

I grew up in real poverty, went hungry as a child, I’m not poor now.

Whilst choice because of money is great the most important thing is to love and feel loved. You could be in a huge house, eat and drink anything you want and have amazing holidays and still be utterly miserable if you do not have people who care for you and also have people you care for.

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