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Banana Jean Agnes or Banana Agnes Jean

141 replies

greglet · 25/08/2025 16:16

First name is not actually Banana, obviously, but a three syllable name ending in -a with the same stress pattern. If anyone guesses the name correctly I will confirm; I just don’t want to risk the thread devolving into discussion/criticism of it.

So,
YABU: Banana Jean Agnes
YANBU: Banana Agnes Jean

OP posts:
CheeriosOrFrosties · 26/08/2025 07:42

How many syllables is your surname?

OccasionalHope · 26/08/2025 07:43

Linnea Jean Agnes, I don’t think a name ending a should be followed by another vowel, it feels awkward.

Linnea is lovely btw.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 26/08/2025 07:44

Why not Banana?

At least you won't have to.come on here saying " Someones pinched MY name!"

🤣

AllFours · 26/08/2025 07:45

Linnea Jean Agnes Surname

Flows so much better, cleaner to say out loud and overall sounds nicer!

ThisKindAmberLemur · 26/08/2025 07:48

Let's hope the first name isn't Virginia and you don't go with Agnes Jean, otherwise their initials will be the death of them at school (and everywhere else for that matter)

bumbaloo · 26/08/2025 07:52

Ikeameatballs · 25/08/2025 16:20

Banana Jean Agnes prevents the “r” sound you can get to stop the name ending in a vowel running into the one that starts with a vowel. Hard to say without know the surname, which I understand you won’t want to disclose! Just make sure you don’t end up with BJAM or BJAR as the initials.

How do you get an R sound? No matter how I say it, I never get an R sound. Where in the country are you from. Ie what accent? Do you end up saying Banana-rag-nes?

drspouse · 26/08/2025 08:19

bumbaloo · 26/08/2025 07:52

How do you get an R sound? No matter how I say it, I never get an R sound. Where in the country are you from. Ie what accent? Do you end up saying Banana-rag-nes?

Edited

You might not do it in your accent but lots of people do.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Urgmqb41u2w?si=EGtPoWXttU9Q6RAI

OhHellolittleone · 26/08/2025 08:22

greglet · 25/08/2025 16:55

@drspouse Yes this is my concern. I have an RP accent and wouldn’t rhotacise the liaison between Banana and Agnes (I’d say “Bananah”), but I’m aware lots of people would. Just interested to see what the majority preference is!

I’ve never heard this called rhotacise… do you mean like the ‘uhr’ sound banan-uhr? I always thought this was called a schwa… but is it a specific thing when the next word starts with a vowel? (I teach phonics but not a
speechie, of course, so interested as you sound like you know what you’re talking about!)

OhHellolittleone · 26/08/2025 08:22

Also I think Agnes Jean is nicer
:)

Crazybigtoe · 26/08/2025 08:30

Linnea Agnes Jean

It looks nicer when written down.
Because of the a A have to clearly end Linnea before starting to say Agnes... So then each name stands apart. Linnea Jean sounds more Linnea-Jean...

greglet · 26/08/2025 08:30

@Ooodelally Mostly just Banana! I think I’m less bothered by the fact that Linnea runs into Agnes in some accents (it doesn’t in mine) because middle names are used so rarely.

@OhHellolittleone Rhotacism is pronouncing an ‘r’ between two vowels :)

OP posts:
hepsitemiz · 26/08/2025 08:31

Alana Jean Agnes. Otherwise you’d have a name ending in A followed by one that begins with A. That makes for an awkward liaison which will probably turn into a glottal stop. Glottal stops have their place, more so in languages like Arabic but even in English sometimes… it’s just that here, between two names, it doesn’t sound great and it’s a tiny bit more awkward to say.

crumpet · 26/08/2025 08:35

Dc initials are FBA, in that order to avoid the ending/beginning names in a. I have always regretted not using the initials FAB 😄, and the number of times theyve ever had to read out all the names is minuscule so it wouldn’t have been a bother.

tarheelbaby · 26/08/2025 08:48

@OhHellolittleone , some English speakers (not just British ones) do not pronounce R strongly when it's in words and yet add R to words which don't have one, often if the last syllable ends in -a and the next word begins with a vowel. If you are in the US this is a famous Baahhston (Boston) accent and JFK was known for it. The linguistic term for it is 'non-rhotic'.
park - paahhk
parker - paahhkah
father - faarther
Thea - often sounds more like Theer

Often for rhotic speakers, final -a comes out as shwah (that's the -uh sound) but doesn't have an -r sound too
banana - buhnanuh
For the non-rhotics, it actually ends in more of an -r sound if the next word starts with a vowel
banana - buhnannerr, apple,

MyDeftDuck · 26/08/2025 08:57

If the intended first name begins with a consonant then I think Jean Agnes might be preferable to Agnes Jean. Less chance of potential nicknaming to Baj, Haj, Maj, ……..just saying.

Delphiniumandlupins · 26/08/2025 08:58

Have a surname that begins with A so definitely looked for names that didn't end with A, which excludes a lot of girl's names. You could swop Nancy for Agnes? Although, as you realise, how often do we need to list all our names?

InterestedDad37 · 26/08/2025 09:01

greglet · 25/08/2025 16:23

No one has guessed the name yet (although I quite like Piranha 😂). Surname is forrin and begins with a vowel.

Teresa.
Imelda.
Agnetha
Obama
Impala
Mounjara

FlayOtters · 26/08/2025 09:03

depends if the first name actually starts with a b. You want to avoid the BJ initials

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 26/08/2025 09:04

linnea Jean Agnes has a more interesting rhythm, though does depend on your surname

People will say it lin-ee-UH in the Uk a lot, but it's still nice.

Ignore people being rude about Agnes and Jean, both are currently fashionable. Agnes will always be a bit marmite because of the hard sound, but people will get used to them like they did Edith and Albert.

edited for updates

Tay596 · 26/08/2025 09:05

I love, love, love Linnea Jean - but Agnes is so hard and scratchy to my ear in comparison. Are you sure two middle names are really necessary? Linnea Jean runs so nicely and means no trying to stick Agnes in somewhere it doesn't fit.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 26/08/2025 09:05

I wouldn’t want a double aa so would put banana Jean Agnes

DonnaSueWeloveyou · 26/08/2025 09:07

Team BAJ here! I think it flows a bit better, but to be honest either is nice.

KrisAkabusi · 26/08/2025 09:08

Does it matter? How often is a full name going to be used?

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 26/08/2025 09:10

KrisAkabusi · 26/08/2025 09:08

Does it matter? How often is a full name going to be used?

It matters to the OP because she's excited to be naming her baby.

You epic killjoy you

MindfulM · 26/08/2025 09:11

Agnes Jean flows really well

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