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House viewings - neighbour refuses to take down flag

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KayleighhMum · 25/08/2025 15:53

Our house is up for sale and we have viewings commencing from tomorrow - 7 in total lined up over the course of the week.

Our neighbour hung a large England flag from his top window on Friday and it has remained up. DH saw him outside the front on Saturday and politely asked if he could take it down before Tuesday. He basically laughed and said if any prospective new neighbour dislikes the flag then they won’t be the sort of person he’d want living next to him. It remains up now.

I am concerned this would be off putting, but speaking to my mum earlier she thinks I am over thinking things and it wouldn’t make a difference if someone likes the house.

Do you think we should try and ask again or would you assume it shouldn’t put people off? We are semi detached so it will definitely be noticed.

No prior issues with this neighbour who has always been friendly etc.

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Tsama · 26/08/2025 17:56

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WhySoSeriousSeriously · 26/08/2025 17:56

It’s the Women's Rugby world cup
at the moment.

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/08/2025 17:57

WhySoSeriousSeriously · 26/08/2025 17:56

It’s the Women's Rugby world cup
at the moment.

Oh yes. That will be the reason.
🙄

Fizzyfish67 · 26/08/2025 17:59

HelloGreen · 25/08/2025 16:04

I’m, if anything, overly patriotic and I still can’t ignore the connotations the flag has at the moment.

It would put me off.

What connotations? Because someone says so? I think we all have to ignore the noise that some sections of society are making because they want to shut down debate. I’d be more interested in whether the neighbouring houses were well maintained etc

Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget · 26/08/2025 18:02

This whole disgust people have with our national flag is ridiculous. This is England so seeing an English/British flag should be completely normal.anybody who wants to live in England should love seeing our flag. I love nothing more than being in another country and seeing them flying their national flags with pride

Digdongdoo · 26/08/2025 18:02

Fizzyfish67 · 26/08/2025 17:59

What connotations? Because someone says so? I think we all have to ignore the noise that some sections of society are making because they want to shut down debate. I’d be more interested in whether the neighbouring houses were well maintained etc

Not everyone has the luxury of being able to ignore the noise unfortunately. Surely you get that?

OonaStubbs · 26/08/2025 18:05

No-one should get upset about seeing our nations flag flying proudly from someone's home.

Tsama · 26/08/2025 18:05

Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget · 26/08/2025 18:02

This whole disgust people have with our national flag is ridiculous. This is England so seeing an English/British flag should be completely normal.anybody who wants to live in England should love seeing our flag. I love nothing more than being in another country and seeing them flying their national flags with pride

Nobody disgusted by the flag, they are disgusted by racists tainting it

Tsama · 26/08/2025 18:06

Digdongdoo · 26/08/2025 18:02

Not everyone has the luxury of being able to ignore the noise unfortunately. Surely you get that?

People who don't suffer because of it doesn't care :v

Tsama · 26/08/2025 18:06

OonaStubbs · 26/08/2025 18:05

No-one should get upset about seeing our nations flag flying proudly from someone's home.

They should when it's done to support racists

Vynalbob · 26/08/2025 18:07

It will put people off (eg me) but there's (hopefully small %) that would find it positive. So swings and roundabouts.

I don't think any good will be done by asking again, it might sour the friendliness until you manage to move.

Grammarnut · 26/08/2025 18:11

Tsama · 26/08/2025 16:36

Something kinda related I just remembered

The people whining about the flag and talking about patriotism as if there's not a entire racist movement happening literally right now?

They remind me of USA pride month drama, where all bigots started whine about soldiers, veterans and so on, and how July should be their month instead

Anyone with half a brain could see they didn't give one single fuck about soldiers and it was all a excuse to show veiled bigotry, a lot of the time not even veiled really

The people here who keeps twisting themselves into a pretzel to justify it as patriotism, sports and so on? You're not fooling anyone

Some of you are being very in your face obviously purposely dumb and obtuse

Why not just stop being a coward and just admit you agree with why some are showing their flags right now?

Cause seriously, it's pathetic, at least have some spine and be open about what you really feel instead of offending our intelligence

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Well, sometimes it is sport. When the Lionesses won a European cup a few weeks ago there were lots of St George flags out. As to Pride Month, since it became a kink fest full of TiMs and has ousted Lesbians for being genital bigots, I think quite a lot of us have ceased to support it - esp after the Safeguarding officer of Sussex Pride turned out to be a paedophile.
Also, family and nation are the bedrock of our democracy. We decry them at our peril. Without the nation we cannot rally ourselves to protect our way of life, our beliefs and our culture - which would be a bad outcome.

MrsPositivity1 · 26/08/2025 18:12

It certainly would put me off.

Toseland · 26/08/2025 18:12

When I moved into my house a friend popped over and was horrified by the St George's cross flying on a neighbour's house. She made all kinds of unpleasant assumptions about the neighbour, e.g. unemployed, ignorant, racist, bigot, 'gammon', 'white van man'. I was quite shocked.
Later I met him and found out he was in actual fact a decent, hard-working bloke, with grown kids and an amazing job in professional sport that takes him all over the world.
I asked about the flag. He said he was a patriotic Brit and so used to seeing flags in other countries he thought he'd fly his own. He's turned out to be the best neighbour!

WFindianmom · 26/08/2025 18:12

I think it's a good filter for you too, you shouldn't be dealing with someone who has a problem with the flag of the nation they are living in

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 26/08/2025 18:14

Ooodelally · 25/08/2025 16:21

It would put me off and I wouldn’t make an offer as I would assume that the neighbours could well be racist thugs. I wouldn’t buy a house in my road at the moment either as someone has seen fit to drape the roundabout at the top of the road with plastic Union Jack bunting and tie three England flags to the lampposts….

Genuine question, why do you live here if you clearly hate it so much?

WhereIsMyJumper · 26/08/2025 18:14

Toseland · 26/08/2025 18:12

When I moved into my house a friend popped over and was horrified by the St George's cross flying on a neighbour's house. She made all kinds of unpleasant assumptions about the neighbour, e.g. unemployed, ignorant, racist, bigot, 'gammon', 'white van man'. I was quite shocked.
Later I met him and found out he was in actual fact a decent, hard-working bloke, with grown kids and an amazing job in professional sport that takes him all over the world.
I asked about the flag. He said he was a patriotic Brit and so used to seeing flags in other countries he thought he'd fly his own. He's turned out to be the best neighbour!

What, you mean that you didn’t make a huge assumption and judge this man before you met him? That’s very un mumsnetty of you…

AngeloMysterioso · 26/08/2025 18:15

Becs51 · 26/08/2025 14:50

Let’s be perfectly truthful here, 95% of the explosion of St George’s flags are people being racist currently. If it were the World Cup on at the moment I’d probably say otherwise.
I have zero issue with flying our flag and being proud of our country but you can not ignore that the overwhelming majority are doing it for the wrong reasons.

There IS a World Cup on at the moment. The Women’s Rugby World Cup started last week, we are hosting the tournament, and England played last Friday (and absolutely kicked ass 🌹🏉) and will be again this weekend.

So in fact, this is a perfectly appropriate time to be displaying England flags.

Unless you think a Women’s World Cup isn’t an important enough tournament to merit displaying flags, in which case you might want to examine your own prejudice before you start judging other people’s.

Happily, the BBC just announced that the England match last week broke viewing figure and match attendance records so it looks like some people think it’s a big deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cm2vg8205rgo

Jess Breach of England celebrates with teammates Rosie Galligan and Ellie Kildunne

Women's Rugby World Cup 2025: Record viewing figures for tournament across BBC

England's statement victory against the United States in the Women's Rugby World Cup opener on Friday draws a peak audience of 2.4 million on BBC One and 600,000 on iPlayer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cm2vg8205rgo

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 26/08/2025 18:15

Tsama · 26/08/2025 18:06

They should when it's done to support racists

What is it called when people pin up Palestine flags then? Is that Hamas supporters? Terrorist organisation supporters?

WhereIsMyJumper · 26/08/2025 18:15

OonaStubbs · 26/08/2025 18:05

No-one should get upset about seeing our nations flag flying proudly from someone's home.

Ok I’m done. I agree with @OonaStubbs on something. What’s happening.

Sassoon · 26/08/2025 18:16

I’d assume the neighbour was a racist and there’s no way I would buy.

Sun25 · 26/08/2025 18:17

WhereIsMyJumper · 26/08/2025 15:05

So what? Literally who cares?
OP will get enough offers if her house is priced correctly. I do not know one person who would give a shiny shite about a flag hanging outside if they were looking to buy a house

This is not representative of the real world. I doubt I would even notice.

Are you white perchance? Just thinking about the statement that you made that you wouldn't notice. Cos as a brown skinned person, I would notice and, while the flag itself is not inherently offensive to me at all, I'd make a quick risk assessment. The chance of the flag being there (outside major football match periods) because the person has particular views about immigrants/ brown skinned people is medium to high. I would therefore not risk buying the house next door. Which is a win for the neighbour and tbh, whilst I feel a bit sad that I need to worry about stuff like this, it's kind of helpful for me to have the heads up!

CombatBarbie · 26/08/2025 18:18

WaffleParty · 25/08/2025 16:06

Normally it wouldn’t put me off, but the timing would make me think the neighbour is a supporter of these ridiculous protests outside hotels housing asylum seekers.

And nothing at all to do with the Rugby???

Toseland · 26/08/2025 18:20

WhereIsMyJumper · 26/08/2025 18:14

What, you mean that you didn’t make a huge assumption and judge this man before you met him? That’s very un mumsnetty of you…

That was nearly 20 years ago now and was the first time I had heard someone be so judgemental about the English flag. I was staggered by the venom and all the associations listed!

MoonWoman69 · 26/08/2025 18:24

Good for him, you're being a CF asking him to remove it!

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