To think people who work part-time shouldn’t get the same promotion chances as full-timers?

[ThatCandidBear]

If you’re only doing 3 days a week, how is it fair to expect the same career progression as someone putting in 5? AIBU to think promotion opportunities should be tied to hours worked?

Even if they are better at the job than a full timer? Just ridiculous.

@ThatCandidBear I’ve ready your posts and I think you are coming at this from the point of view that if a role is “full time” then it needs someone there 37.5 + hours a week. Rather than about the capability of an employee.

What you are confusing is presenteeism with capability. In my experience employees and managers are quite limited in exploring creative options for flexible working. This includes job design and redesign.

I have seen women be constantly rated as outstanding who go part time after having a baby and their rating drops to above average. As they increase their hours and go back to full time their rating slowly moves up to outstanding again. This is unconscious bias based on presenteeism.

Some people work 60, 70 hours a week - that’s not full time, it’s doing two jobs. We have some jobs that need 24/7 or even 07:00 to 21:00 coverage, which one person is expected to do by working unpaid overtime. Technology has played a part e.g. emails, mobile phones, the ability to be contacted 24/7. As has the drive for efficiencies and the bottom line.

Everyone should be given equal opportunity for promotion and the best person should get the job. If the successful candidate works part time, has a disability etc. then either the role needs to be redesigned to accommodate that or creative solutions like job share, reasonable adjustments etc. should be used.

Can’t believe this thread is still running but judging by the number of comments that time served/presenteeism is a core requirement for promotion the problem with UK productivity seems obvious.

You promote people on ability to do the job well both currently at the next level, self investment in skills/experience acquisition and performance/contribution pro rata’d against their contracted hours.

Promoting people for rocking up, spending eight hours each day to do the same relatively unvarying job is how you end up with mediocre departments and poor productivity. You might as well promote the office chair.

In my view, promotions should be awarded based upon experience and ability. The number of hours / days worked in a role should not have any bearing upon someone's ability to gain promotion - it should be a merit appointment.

No it seems that you have an issue with a person who is part time, better at the job than you are, but you feel entitled to the promotion because you work more hours…. Wait until you have childcare responsibilities

Yeah you are being unreasonable, as someone who’s worked in different office settings, I have came across a concerning amount of lazy people, and most the time the harder workers are the part time parents or someone retiring but yet they do way more work and put more effort in to it than those full time. I understand maybe how long youv been there, like an employee who’s been there 10 years over someone who’s been there 2 “may be” a better option but it’s down to the person and their quality of work hopefully been able to prove themselves and not just been handed to them