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Sick of ai being pushed down our collective throats with no choice in the matter.

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chaosmaker · 24/08/2025 08:49

I find it increasingly threatening to our collective safety, the extent that our current idiocy in westminster is in bed with big tech and forcing ai on us.
I can't delete it from devices. Most social media is now embedding it again with no clue as to what they are hoping to achieve with it.
Children and young teens are increasingly using it to tell all their problems to and thinking of it as a sentient friend.
Nobody seems to be looking long term at how we are deskilling ourselves and trusting a database to tell them what to do when they are engaging with it.
It is possible to go through each whatsapp message and make it private from ai but with conditions. None of which I care about so have made mine private. Also can't search whatsapp for friends or ai does an internet search on them without actually connecting you to them.
WHO is holding all this data and what will it be used for above marketing purposes. I also spend a lot of time unticking the 'legitimate interest' boxes. It's not MY legitimate interest.

In general I think more tech is making us more stupid.
AIBU - no, no we need all the tech we can get
INBU (might have got the acronym wrong) - it's obviously right to be concerned about all this tech 'creep' into the world

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PinchOfVom · 24/08/2025 08:53

Yes I worry about this as well.
its very dehumanising and I worry especially for my ASD son who is not as savvy as he thinks.

AI is suddenly inescapable - how did you make your messages private?

Arlanymor · 24/08/2025 08:54

How do you feel about the use of AI in healthcare to streamline processes, save costs and supporting clinicians to improve patient care?

araiwa · 24/08/2025 08:55

They're spending billions on it

Of course they'll push it

You still don't need to use it

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 24/08/2025 09:00

I hate it too.

Particularly in the art field where my dd has already missed out on work and being able to help her boss with new commissions. The commissions are going to AI

I think in ten years "we " will massively regret this. What are people going to do for work?

Not everyone will get a new opportunity. This isn't like the spinning Jenny. This is a lot more powerful and impactful imo.

PeriJane · 24/08/2025 09:01

AI is not going anywhere. People need to learn how to work with it or they risk falling behind professionally. Using AI properly requires a good level of digital literacy skills, general literacy skills, critical thinking skills, problem solving skills…..those that refuse to upskill in this area will be the ones AI replaces. Those that learn to make AI work for them will be fine.

chaosmaker · 24/08/2025 09:01

PinchOfVom · 24/08/2025 08:53

Yes I worry about this as well.
its very dehumanising and I worry especially for my ASD son who is not as savvy as he thinks.

AI is suddenly inescapable - how did you make your messages private?

Go into view contact and scroll down and there is a chat privacy option.

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Appalonia · 24/08/2025 09:03

It's an incredible tool, but, like the internet itself, is going to end up being used in some ways that will be harmful to us. And we're only at the beginning of this massive change in society. It's already affecting employment, jobs like copywriting, marketing, translating etc going. However, it's too late to stop it now I'm afraid. But yes, we haven't consented to any of this. The next few years are going to be...interesting!

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 24/08/2025 09:04

Well those that stay in work will have to support the mass unemployment that comes so good luck and enjoy that

Unemployment effects more that just the people out of work. It's affects the economy and spending power of those in work too. It's a rolling ball that gets bigger and bigger.

curious79 · 24/08/2025 09:05

Like all tech it can be used for good or for bad. I am certainly not turning my back on it and am aiming to upskill and explore as much as possible. It has been revolutionary in one aspect of my work - making it far less stressful

merrymelody · 24/08/2025 09:21

I’m very wary of AI and avoid it whenever possible. But the use of it isn’t always apparent and that makes me extremely uncomfortable.

chaosmaker · 24/08/2025 18:15

Arlanymor · 24/08/2025 08:54

How do you feel about the use of AI in healthcare to streamline processes, save costs and supporting clinicians to improve patient care?

streamline processes = cut human jobs, I'd rather human mistakes over machine ones. How do you make machines accountable? Also we can't all live forever There are already too many people on this planet. To the expense of all other life forms except maybe cockroaches, rats and seagulls.

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chaosmaker · 24/08/2025 18:19

araiwa · 24/08/2025 08:55

They're spending billions on it

Of course they'll push it

You still don't need to use it

How do I know I'm not using it though? it is insidious

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MsRumpole · 24/08/2025 18:21

I think it's insane to deskill ourselves. Obviously I wonder what jobs will be left for humans to do in a few decades' time, but even if somehow things change so we don't have to have jobs and everyone has enough, I just wonder what exactly we're going to be doing with our brains once we've outsourced everything from writing a letter to carrying out open heart surgery to giving a friend a shoulder to cry on to AI. I'm not saying that AI doesn't have valid technical or medical applications but I really don't think that these are skills that we should lose, and we obviously will if we're not very careful about how and when AI is used.

sakura06 · 24/08/2025 18:41

There was an article in The Guardian today about how Chat GPT suggested the UK government pay £2bn for UK citizens to have access to the premium version! Apparently the minister regarded it as not a serious suggestion. I would have been fuming had they spent that money! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/23/uk-minister-peter-kyle-chatgpt-plus-openai-sam-altman?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Deal to get ChatGPT Plus for whole of UK discussed by Open AI boss and minister

Exclusive: Deal that could have cost £2bn was floated at meeting between technology secretary Peter Kyle and Sam Altman

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/23/uk-minister-peter-kyle-chatgpt-plus-openai-sam-altman?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

user1471453601 · 24/08/2025 18:44

I think AI is ok, in its place. But we need to remember that it's just a large
Language Model, ie it knows a lot of words And has "learned" which words usually come after which other words.

So it knows a lot of words but that is not intelligence. And it's not experience. All it knows is words.

So id be happy to have AI collate all my chronic illnesses and alert the doctor to the fact that one drug I'm taking for one of them may be contributing to an increase in symptoms of another illness.

I wouldn't trust AI to diagnose, for example, anxiety. Because that would need someone with life experience and empathy to understand what the best course of action is right for me

TartanBarmy · 24/08/2025 18:51

I have never to my knowledge used AI. I wouldn’t know how to use ChatGPT and I don’t want to Google in case it’s very easy.

I have copy editor friends and photographer friends who are out of work now as a result, translators who have had to sell their houses as their income is down 70%.

I wouldn’t normally be pro UBI but these friends can’t get a job at Aldi or coop as there aren’t enough jobs. They moved out of London as they couldn’t afford to live there, they work from home as they couldn’t afford childcare, they now can’t do that so they’re looking for jobs anywhere (pubs, supermarkets, cleaning work) and there’s nothing).

So far it’s “them” but it WILL be an “us”. Luckily I’m sure Labour will be really up for a UBI. They are such big fans of the WFA.

chaosmaker · 24/08/2025 18:52

When you add in hallucinations, how do you know it is the best tool for the job? Is there any guarantee that one ai with dubious learning won't be able to infect other ai programmes being used in important areas?
Then there are always hackers. How much could you mess with a country if once everything is infested with it, you disable it in some way?

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 24/08/2025 18:55

Ah, one of my special interests. (Polishes Luddite badge with pride).

Seriously though, things like psychosis developing in people encouraged to use ChatGPT for "therapy" should be flagged as a five alarm fire for a start, never mind the dumbing down, misinformation, de-skilling, impact on employment and environmental impact.

Too many bad actors, too easy to manipulate and scam with the tech we currently have, and the general rule of thumb is that anything we are encouraged access to is ten - 15 years behind what the tech bros and the military are developing, because novel ways if surveillance, controlling and killing people attracts plenty of funding from governments......

T2 was not supposed to be a documentary, and 1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual.

But here we are eh?

lljkk · 24/08/2025 19:00

We are sleep walking into AI-dependency the same way we slept-walked into dependency on plastic products everywhere.

On a personal level, I would be Flipping delighted if Meta stopped adding AI suggestions to each group post. If I could merely have the option to turn it OFF. Most especially inappropriate was the "What are the weight loss secrets of XX?" when the Facebook story was about XX (female winner of big cycle race) having reached a body fat % around 8% and what scary things that level of calorie restriction meant for women's sport.

Most people are NOT going to learn to use AI in a clever useful positive way. They will NOT hone their prompts to use AI cleverly to enhance what they could have achieved without AI. Most people are going to lazily use LLMs (just one type of AI) to avoid honing their own skills at basic tasks like ... writing polite emails, drafting job cover letters, and generating half-hallucinated summaries of information about a specific topic. This level of use will inspire many to say "I just can't imagine coping without it..."

soupyspoon · 24/08/2025 19:13

One wrong thing on the internet is then re created a million times as 'the answer'.

Ive been trying to find the equivalent of vanilla bean paste to a vanilla pod. The AI resiult came up first and that differs from some other answers. But the AI answer is repeated quite a lot.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 24/08/2025 19:15

Let's not forget the massive impact Ai has to the environment. I don't know stats or details its something I've heard anecdotally. Why waste money battling climate change when introducing something that is so damaging, and will result in unemployment and no doubt a massive MH situation. I literally can't think of anything more stupid or damaging.

The worst part for me is I don't even know how to avoid it because it's been put into my life without my consent or control. It just popped up on WhatsApp one day, I can't delete this as it's used for so many things especially kids activities. It popped up on Google too so I got rid of Google and use Ecosia now as a search engine. It's probably on lots of other apps but the only way of avoiding it is to stop using tech. Which by the way I wouldn't care about but my bank will no longer allow me do anything without a smartphone and app, and there are many many other aspects of my life that I need tech for that I never instigated in the first place. I feel like I don't have much free will anymore, like I'm constantly being manipulated by a small number of US companies that i do not trust

soupyspoon · 24/08/2025 19:22

I dont really understand the climate thing, how is it any different to using the internet generally?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 24/08/2025 19:30

soupyspoon · 24/08/2025 19:22

I dont really understand the climate thing, how is it any different to using the internet generally?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_artificial_intelligence

Environmental impact of artificial intelligence - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_artificial_intelligence

FoxRedPuppy · 24/08/2025 19:34

AI in healthcare will be revolutionary. AI is so much better at diagnosing some cancers at much earlier times than humans. It doesn’t remove humans, you still need them to take the scans and operate the AI.

I love co-pilot and use it all the time at work, saves me loads of time.