Sick of ai being pushed down our collective throats with no choice in the matter.

[chaosmaker]

I find it increasingly threatening to our collective safety, the extent that our current idiocy in westminster is in bed with big tech and forcing ai on us.
I can't delete it from devices. Most social media is now embedding it again with no clue as to what they are hoping to achieve with it.
Children and young teens are increasingly using it to tell all their problems to and thinking of it as a sentient friend.
Nobody seems to be looking long term at how we are deskilling ourselves and trusting a database to tell them what to do when they are engaging with it.
It is possible to go through each whatsapp message and make it private from ai but with conditions. None of which I care about so have made mine private. Also can't search whatsapp for friends or ai does an internet search on them without actually connecting you to them.
WHO is holding all this data and what will it be used for above marketing purposes. I also spend a lot of time unticking the 'legitimate interest' boxes. It's not MY legitimate interest.

In general I think more tech is making us more stupid.
AIBU - no, no we need all the tech we can get
INBU (might have got the acronym wrong) - it's obviously right to be concerned about all this tech 'creep' into the world

Alternatively get rid of co pilot and get a co human to 'save your time'. Someone else gets employed, ai dumped, win win.

I’m not senior enough to make that decision. And it isn’t enough fora whole other job. It’s stuff like more quickly analysing data in spreadsheets for me (or just finding the right row). It still needs me to input the correct stuff. Or rewording an email to sound better. Especially as I occasionally have to do some marketing in my job, but don’t have that background. But not often enough that it needs a whole other job.

I’m in the public transport industry and a customer actually said before asking me a question, he asked ChatGPT instead. It gave him the wrong information.

i’m stood around not busy and he would rather ask a computer brain, than a real one? No wonder so many people are losing their social skills.

YANBU, not all progress results in actual progress for the common good. It often just progresses the financial interests of the people involved.

AI is inherently sexist right now.

I don’t disagree. But I’m talking about specific studies in detection of certain cancers. Some of which are gendered and are based on tiny changes in scan images that humans don’t notice.

Is nearly always rather google something myself than ask someone. Because then I have to think how to frame it in a question, make sure I am polite enough, possibly make small talk. Then judge if I can add follow up questions. I’m ND and all of this is very hard.

I have numerous bad experiences of staff on public transport. Some good too. Which means there is no guarantee. If I research myself I can take my time, and follow up questions, and I don’t get someone rude.

Saying you don’t like/ want/ won’t use /will avoid AI is like King Canute saying he will stop the tide. I think it’s very concerning, but it’s happening. We need regulation but I don’t think anyone with the ability to regulate wants to regulate. Silicon Valley? Trump? Big Tech? Anyone heard of Agentic AI? When different AI systems talk to each other and start doing things. This will happen - I doubt controls will be out in early enough for this to happen sensibly. The EU is trying but its systems are so complex that I think they’re being largely ignored.

I read an excellent (very long) article about what’s really going on behind all the AI fear. In summary it doesn’t do as much mystical shit as all these CEOs are led to believe and the entire trade is based on GPUs. Fascinating stuff.

The Hater's Guide To The AI Bubble

Cancers aren’t gendered. They’re inherently linked to biological sex.

Humans are utterly determined to convenience themselves out of all meaning.

Look at the introduction of sat nav and the number of drivers that drive into rivers and onto railway tracks because they pit absolute faith in the tech.

I’m sick of arguing that being able to get a 1 page summary of a book or report isn’t “progress”. If 1 page was enough to tell you everything you need to know there wouldn’t be a book/report.

Convo usually goes:

”What did it leave out?”

”Eh?”

”In summarising the (60 page) report into 1 page. What did it leave out?”

”I don’t know.”

”Don’t you think you should know, given you’re using this info to make pretty important corporate decisions?”

”Um, maybe.” <disappears to read report>

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The free AI that you get with your computer or smartphone is generally crap and tends to get things wrong, but it will be widely used because it enables people who write intermediate-level English and have it as their second or third language to pretend that they are fluent.

There are a lot of such people in the developing world, very eager for outsourced jobs from the West. At present, the free AI has certain tells in its writing style that can be easily identified with practice but those will be improved upon because as someone said upthread, AI is essentially a large language model.

I don't think it will take over from humans. I think it will enable less skilled and educated humans to perform jobs from which they were traditionally excluded and if you live in a Western country, that should be enough to worry you.

AI even wants to help me write comments and check my grammar on facebook. Like I'm an idiot that can't even write a sentence. Well, maybe in a few years we WILL all be idiots.

And currently most people can spot AI writing, pictures of videos. But it won't be long before they are indistinguishable, which is going to be very difficult for identifying fraud. Here's just one example from this morning's news. Not to mention deepfake porn etc.

I’m just glad I’ll be dead by the time a company like Skynet rules the world.

I worry how well live in the future. AI has the potential to takeover a lot of jobs including well paid ones. Once we give in there will be a time when the jobless outnumber the employed. Then who will pay for the jobless to have food, a roof over their heads etc.

I love it personally. Has really improved my life.

Alright, I’m full, cars carrying terf. I just couldn’t think of the terminology. Sexed cancer?

AI is a tool and like all tools, from printing to the internet, can be used for good or for ill.

I agree that the forms of AI with which most of us will come into casual contact are large language models. But LLMs are just one category of AI. Generative AI is another kind of AI which is becoming increasingly widespread. A more recent development is the use of multi-agent systems (MAS) and compound AI systems for complex problem solving or task completion.

Already, some jobs are being replaced by AI (as jobs in the past have been replaced by new technology) and other jobs, people need to use AI in order to compete with others in their field who use AI.

I guess that, just like every other thing that people have invented, some of the impacts of AI will be fantastic and others will be completely shit.

There's always resistance to every new technology - I mean, there were complaints that this newfangled printing thing was going to wreck our memories as well as spreading seditious ideas. I don't like AI either and have so far not (knowingly) had anything to do with it, but I'm thinking I'm really going to have to make an effort to at least understand it. Otherwise I'll be getting "old" before I'm 50. My idea of being old is getting to that point where you just decide you can't cope with any new stuff (probably disguising it with a lot of "it's all stupid, unnecessary and probably dangerous anyway") and put up the mental walls and before you know it you're living in a world you don't understand and can't function normally in. Like my grandma with the internet, or the man I encountered in a car park today who couldn't or wouldn't download a parking app and was getting in a rage about his "right" to park without it (he had a smartphone, offered to show him, wasn't having it). It may have its downsides like anything else, but if we don't get on board we'll be left behind. With young people rolling their eyes, like I do at old people who can't use a smartphone.

But apps are crappy and you really should have a right to park a car, pay with cash and not give all your data away in an app. They don't need to know any of the information given away in apps.
The thing is. Idiot starmer obviously idolizes tony blair. Who has his stinking fingers knuckles deep in ai. Part of what his institute does. Government is trying to crowbar ai in into important areas of life. Again Private Eye is keeping a watch on this and every fortnight there has been a new little bit of info on what departments they want it to take jobs in.
As I'm typing this I have had an ad come up that is Billy Idol against ai.......

@Elsvieta just because you can do a thing, doesn't mean you should. Lots of brilliant inventors don't seem able to see what other applications can be used for their stuff beyond what they are designing it for.
The printing press couldn't store information up about your deepest, darkest secrets in the cloud even if you told it them. Not the same at all.

See I love the parking apps. I never carry cash about and it’s so much more convenient. Not sure what top secret data I am sharing with them, apart from my name and email address.

I don’t think you should be forced to use them. But that is capitalism, not specifically AI. Private companies will do what is convenient to them to make the most money. Apps are more secure in the sense of not being robbed like parking machines used to be.

I mean this just sounds tin foil hatty…

Which bit?